Some cleanup...

Post by **STrRedWolf** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:42 pm

I will be cleaning up the General Discussion forum within one week. Unfortunately, I have to pull down the whole board, as I have to go "underground" to the SQL server level and be rather raw on it.

The benifit is that the resulting pruning of all messages over 120 days old will remove over half the messages, and make everything faster.

EDIT: I have also adjusted the forums to show 20 replies per page, and locked/moved some long threads.

LAGtheNoggin · Post by **LAGtheNoggin** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:50 pm

About time the forum had a prune, getting a little bulky no doubt. But one quick question, will we loose our post counts (or anything else other than old threads and posts for that matter)?

YarpsDat · Post by **YarpsDat** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:55 pm

I myself don't like the idea of pruning, as in "deleting the old stuff"

Maybe it will speed up the forum, maybe it will not.
I don't recall the recent crash, that took down about 1250 threads speeding up anything.

And these were large threads, unlike the 0-1 responce ones from the really old days (the forum wasn't that active back then). Currently the forum has less than 3200 threads. Adding stuff up, substracting the recent months that've been very active (We created over 600 very active threads in the past months) we get that the result of the pruning will not be as significant as one might thing.
It will delete about 2.5k of relatively small threads. That means it will be approximetly twice as good as the crash.

Is there any chance for the old data to be stored in some kind of database?
Me logic is that some of the old stuff is really good, and it's just a shame to delete it.

If there is a chance, I'm ok. If there is not, I'd like to know some more exact date than "within a week". I'd like to know how much time we have to say goodbye to our whole (before the crash) history.

Executor_Arthas · Post by **Executor_Arthas** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:22 pm

And they said, "Delete topics?! Are you insane!?!?!" and "There's no way to keep people from spamming, so just go with it." AND NOW LOOK EHAT YOU'VE DONE!!!

Post by **STrRedWolf** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:32 pm

If those topics are still being replied to, then they won't get removed. I mean stuff that's well aged and ready to be used as firewood.

Oh, and the spam posts can be autonuked by the moderators. You should have delete privlages.

Treble · Post by **Treble** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:35 pm

Uh...I have a confession to make...
When trying out new things, like posting an img or changing my sig, or something, I would pick a very old post that had only one or two answers, post my experiment to it, then see how it worked. Lather rinse repeat.
That may screw up your purge if a lot of people do that. If you find any post of mine that is more than one week newer than what it replies to, nuke away.
But you'd have to be pretty anal retentive to actually be looking at what you're purging....

Post by **STrRedWolf** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:52 pm

That's why there's an "Off Topic" area now.

Executor_Arthas · Post by **Executor_Arthas** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:03 pm

No offence or anything Wolf, but I think that you're going a little overboard with this. VileTerror didn't even do anything, yet you banned her, and then you start moving threads, and NOW you're gonna ban me also for standing up to you, when you don't even come here often! And since this is prolly gonna be my last post, farewell all.

Mr Ekshin · Post by **Mr Ekshin** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:21 pm

Are people getting banned here now? Is there a reason other than emotional discharge for this?

SamSim · Post by **SamSim** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:25 pm

Off-Topic and GD have been split! Ah, my prayers have been answered. Thank you, STrRedWolf.

Toxic · Post by **Toxic** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:46 pm

My final protest song (to the tune of Don McClean's "American Pie")

Bye Bye this here Vileterror guy
Browsed to DO NOT REPLY
But DO NOT REPLY had died
The good old spacers were drinking
Whiskey and Bry, singing
This is the day the forums died
This is the day the forums died.

Brockway · Post by **Brockway** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:48 pm

VT never posted in DNR. She was pretty adamant about that. The one that posted was an imposter.

Executor_Arthas · Post by **Executor_Arthas** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:04 pm

*sigh* yeah, but I still miss her... Oh wait, I'm talking to her right now on MSN!!!

Superlance · Post by **Superlance** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:07 pm

Executor_Arthas wrote:*sigh* yeah, but I still miss her... Oh wait, I'm talking to her right now on MSN!!!

Miss... VILETERROR?!
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

And VileTerror was an 'it', not a 'her'; anyway.

KittyKatBlack · Post by **KittyKatBlack** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:31 pm

Oh come on. I mean VileTerror wasn't that bad really. A bit wierd, sure... but I mean if anyone deserves a banning, it's that Stanely guy, or Lee@TheMatrix and his clones. VileTerror is just the resident oddball, but she/he/it's still a resident.

Terotrous · Post by **Terotrous** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 10:36 pm

I find it quite amusing that a thread called "some cleanup" is being used to discuss the removal of VileTerror from the forums.

"The Keenspace forums are now considerably less vile now that we cleaned them up."

It's hilarious!

Phalanx · Post by **Phalanx** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:26 am

No one likes change, I guess. Personally, I thought there were far too many OT thread on GD- I mean... 3 pages of posts per day?! It was getting too much.

But boy, am I glad I'm not moderating GD. *brrrr*.

To tell the truth, Vile wasn't as bad as some others. And other than one rather unfortunate PM, he did start to behave himself after Yarps became moderator.

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:41 am

Since you're taking the time, why don't you delete the dead forums for comics, as well?

They are slowing down this forum more than the old posts.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:57 am

We have yet to see how this changes will affect the forum. I just came here and didn't see the nature of changes yet. I'll sustain from comments of splitting forums for a while.

But on topic of VileTerror, you all either are here for last few months or have really short term memory. VileTerror behaved for some time, yes, but that is strangely enough the time since YarpsDat became a mod.
Thst person was simply sustaining her spam attacks because she feared of being banned. Before that, her thread-spamming, account-spamming, so-called-psycho-tests-spamming, was annoying and insulting. Vile invited a load of friends who came here to annoy us but never, with one word, reffered to webcomics, actually to anything beside Vile itself. In that time, he/she started twenty or more threads about him/her. In one word, Vile was forcing us to talk about him/her. Even now, in his/her "behaving" period, he/she was ressurecting threads that were dead for two or three weeks now, and I don't mean one or two threads, but a full page! God damn, you're still even saying "Her"! That person was all-too-good to even tell you her gender! It you think Vile is so good friend to you, ask him/her to finally tell you one basic information, if he/she is a male or female!

TheGoobla · Post by **TheGoobla** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:06 am

I doubt half of us here actually care either way, but are just jumping on the bandwagon cause protesting seems fun. Either way, whether you like VT or not, you cannot deny the banning was untimely, and inappropriate.