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Protagonists and Antagonists

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:53 pm
by Somesuch
What kind of protagonists and antagonists do you have? Do you have the completely perfect kind of hero, or are your heroes very human? Are they so bad that they could almost be the antagonists themselves? Are your antagonists villainous and sleezy, or are they the sort who actually have understandable goals? Or, are your antagonists unknown, or simply forces that are set against your protagonists?

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:01 pm
by Nishichi27
My protagonists are both the good guys, the comic relief, and bumbling idiots. I based them off of me.

Protagonists......are a bunny, so far. Not very smart bunny at that.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:30 pm
by Brockway
I haven't even introduced the real villain of my comic yet, I'm still a tournament and a months worth of domestic humor away... well, not a MONTH, but like, whatever... the one "psuedo" bad guy was beaten easily, and is in custody as we speak. Really, none of my characters have their own personalities yet... ahhhh, I'm such a failure! *cries*

well, not really, but whatevaaa

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:46 pm
by Faub
My comic is a little strange in that the protagonist changes with the scene and may become the antagonist depending on the storyline, Basically, the audience amounts to a fly on the wall, looking out at life as other people live it. People make decisions that make them important to a scene or not. Their decisions put them in situations where they can either be part of the story or part of a hostile environment for the characters to float around in.

There are no bad guys in real life. There are people you like, people you don't like, people you know, people you don't know and people who scare you (or should scare you). This is the goal I want to reach for.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:08 pm
by Somesuch
http://www.lazette.net/Vision/Issue18/Workshop.htm

But that aside, reality's one thing, as long as you recognize that people have reasons for their actions. Real people can be good or evil, but they have purposes for it. They don't do it blindly. That doesn't make evil deeds excusable (look at Hitler), but it also doesn't make good deeds any less worthy (see Mother Theresa). Any normal person will tend to be both, or one or the other due to the circumstances of his or her environment; however, bear in mind that most people have morals. And everyone, unless their reasoning is fractured, tends to have a reason for things they do.

Anyway... for Somesuch, my antagonist has not appeared yet, if there even is a specific antagonist. But the protagonists (there are three) are so mucked-up in the head that it'll be a wonder if they succeed in doing anything together at all, beyond eventually getting on each other's nerves, perhaps.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:47 am
by Jops
This is difficult to say in my comic 'cause many of the characters can be considered both protagonists and antagonists. It depends if i focus on them or an other party: in fact, the plot of my comic follow the scheme of the treasure hunt: several different groups are looking for an item and they also attempt to obstacle each other.

I'd say that of all the parties, the Aliens, the Evil Cult of Bundumbunchal and the Yakuza are antagonists only, Jakob and Henry are only protagonists, while the SDXF and the anarchists keep switching from one to the other.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:48 am
by Mecharm
Oh man, if I would've just get my SECRET PROJECT online and past the introduction part, I can talk about the awesome character designs it has..

Re: Protagonists and Antagonists

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 5:49 am
by YarpsDat
somesuch wrote: Do you have the completely perfect kind of hero, or are your heroes very human? Are they so bad that they could almost be the antagonists themselves?
I think my main characters are chaotic neutral. With a hint of both good and evil.
And the villains are lawful evil.
somesuch wrote:Are your antagonists villainous and sleezy, or are they the sort who actually have understandable goals?
A bit villainous and sleezy, yes, but they do have goals. Only it will take a while before they are all revealed.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:43 am
by Jeffy
very few of my characters make any sense, i gotta fix that...

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:17 am
by Nyke
Gameshow Chapter 0: Nike (protagonist) trying to keep an unruly cast (antagonists) in order.

"Boyhood's End": Nike is sort of both the "protagonist" and the biggest "antagonist" both. A neurotic that everyone relied on to be the "police tape" (see chapter 0) relied on someone that didn't give a damn about him. He made an image of this girl and was shattered when his image didn't match her.

WrongWay: Simple superhero story. WrongWay vs. (Veneru, God's Army, Skate, Binzo)

WrongWay is a little sadistic and demented, while Veneru tries being "the pinnacle of moral aptitude."

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:34 am
by Rian Q. Fox
We have only Protagonists... Kinda.
Every character has his good and his bad sides (Except T0-G3, it has only bad sides. Soon to come).
Most likely, everyone in the comic is insane, so we annoy people and are protagonists and antagonists at the same time. Plus, there are always CTT-matches.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:38 pm
by McDuffies
I try to keep my good guys realistic persons, and my antagonists as generic and cliche as they can be. It's fun.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:44 pm
by Somesuch
The protagonists in Somesuch are so screwed up (mainly in their heads) that they could very easily be their own enemies. Which reminds me, I meant to work on finishing the next strip tonight...

Meh.

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:41 pm
by VileTerror
I try to blur the line between the two as much as possible.

That is IF there's a line.

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:22 pm
by LennyZ
Well, I'd like to say that my characters model real life and they aren't really cliched to "bad guy" or "good guy." There are people who lean more toward one way or the other, but generally, everyone's just too complicated to be put into categories.

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:00 am
by SamSim
My as-yet unnamed protagonists (after over 650 strips, that's saying something) are basically thrown into their various adventures by circumstance and stupidity. But they're essentially good-hearted.

I've had them face a variety of evil villains. Their greatest foe was Freecell - that was an epic battle and a half.