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Then it's time to start coning! They're always good for a nice boost in traffic.

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IVstudios wrote:Then it's time to start coning! They're always good for a nice boost in traffic.
Note to self- replace human characters with cones
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what's everybody up to
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Just finished the cover art for Part 2 (it's sweet as hell) and am currently waiting impatiently for our new artist to get back from a video editing gig so we can dive into strip 1. I really can't wait to start working on actual strips. So far he's done concept art and the cover and he's knocked it all out of the park, so I'm excited to see what he can come up with. He's never worked on a comic before, but it's what he's passionate about, and I'm feeling really good about this. I described the spaceship interior in the first strip and he immediately got what I wanted (he even pulled up examples of similar ship designs he'd seen in an X-Men comic). It still seems too good to be true, but so far he's come through on everything and he even offered to work ahead of schedule to make up for this video editing thing, but we only have three penciled strips for him so far and we'd rather build up a buffer and not rush the first strip as long as we're free of a demanding update schedule.

Hopefully soon I'll be announcing the launch of Part 2. Man I really want to post the cover art but I'm trying to be good and save it for the actual release. How about you, Cuddly? Have your characters finished their cone metamorphoses and begun raking in the readers yet?
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VeryCuddlyCornpone wrote:what's everybody up to
Page 161.
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School has completely destroyed my hopes for making comics for the foreseeable future.
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Still working away on my second book. I'm a few chapters away from the end of Act 3.
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JSConner800 wrote:Just finished the cover art for Part 2 (it's sweet as hell) and am currently waiting impatiently for our new artist to get back from a video editing gig so we can dive into strip 1. I really can't wait to start working on actual strips. So far he's done concept art and the cover and he's knocked it all out of the park, so I'm excited to see what he can come up with. He's never worked on a comic before, but it's what he's passionate about, and I'm feeling really good about this. I described the spaceship interior in the first strip and he immediately got what I wanted (he even pulled up examples of similar ship designs he'd seen in an X-Men comic). It still seems too good to be true, but so far he's come through on everything and he even offered to work ahead of schedule to make up for this video editing thing, but we only have three penciled strips for him so far and we'd rather build up a buffer and not rush the first strip as long as we're free of a demanding update schedule.
This sounds so promising. I'm hoping everything wokrs out for you all because it sounds like you're onto something really great. Just the samples you shared here were really top notch and I think will serve the comic well and vice-versa!
Hopefully soon I'll be announcing the launch of Part 2. Man I really want to post the cover art but I'm trying to be good and save it for the actual release. How about you, Cuddly? Have your characters finished their cone metamorphoses and begun raking in the readers yet?
Lol! Apparently operation cone-transform is semi-go, things picked up since I last whined- updating every weekday helped a lot, too bad it's not something I can maintain for long periods of time but it was a fun run while it lasted. And I did pick up 2-3 readers along the way who went back ot read the whole archive so that's always a great feeling. I'm fired up to start starting on starting the next scene, but want to take a few more days to "warm up" before I really get serious about it.

Bustertheclown wrote:School has completely destroyed my hopes for making comics for the foreseeable future.
This is going to be me in a few months to a year, depending on when I re-enroll. :(

Cope wrote: Page 161.
Terotrous wrote:Still working away on my second book. I'm a few chapters away from the end of Act 3.
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Would be doing so much better if my comic would update.
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Thumbnailing a scene, getting mildly excited about it???? Ro hoho ho
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I'm hoping to get caught up this weekend and maybe draw the rest of this story before I go on holiday.
Might even try and get something set up for while I'm gone...
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VeryCuddlyCornpone wrote:Lol! Apparently operation cone-transform is semi-go, things picked up since I last whined- updating every weekday helped a lot, too bad it's not something I can maintain for long periods of time but it was a fun run while it lasted. And I did pick up 2-3 readers along the way who went back ot read the whole archive so that's always a great feeling. I'm fired up to start starting on starting the next scene, but want to take a few more days to "warm up" before I really get serious about it.
That's awesome. I assume you had a buffer set up, 'cause doing an entire strip every day for five days straight sounds kind of insane when you don't have a cut-and-paste gag a day comic.

Weird development in the new artist thing. So when I put up our job offer on deviantart, we got plenty of interested artists, but there was one guy who told me he was going to apply and changed his mind because he thought the comic's art style was perfect and he couldn't think of any way it could possibly be better. I thought: okay, that's bizarre, but hey we got a new fan. A new fan that's easy to please! He even liked us on Facebook, where we posted the sample panel that I put up earlier in this thread. But I just happened to check my deviantart profile again and I found that he sent me another message, this one telling me that the new inking style was a really bad choice and it would change the mood of the comic, which was apparently perfect before. I realize art is subjective and all, but really? He thinks the new art is less fitting for our comic? I'm not questioning the new art style because literally everyone else thinks it's a huge improvement and it's the kind of art I imagined for the comic all along, but it's just mind-boggling to me.
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Wow! I guess it's just a really great embodiment of the idea "You can't please everyone." I mean, the old art wasn't butt-ugly, but I think with the depth of the story you're trying to tell the new style is definitely more fitting. Kind of to bring it back to the reference you just made to my comic, if you were doing some gag-a-day strip the old art woudl likely have been perfectly suitable, but as the story is I think you need a little more of that serious edge, you know?
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Yeah, I have to wonder if he preferred the comedic, cartoonish aspects of our story over the serious bits, and that's why he liked the old style so much. Unfortunately for him, Steel Salvation was always meant to be a serious story with some comic relief, and not the other way around. It's definitely a classic case of "you can't please everyone," it's just surprising to me that his opinion is like a complete inversion of the general consensus about the comic so far. Also I kinda wish we hadn't immediately alienated our first vocal fan lol

But that's showbiz XD
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JSConner800 wrote:Yeah, I have to wonder if he preferred the comedic, cartoonish aspects of our story over the serious bits, and that's why he liked the old style so much. Unfortunately for him, Steel Salvation was always meant to be a serious story with some comic relief, and not the other way around. It's definitely a classic case of "you can't please everyone," it's just surprising to me that his opinion is like a complete inversion of the general consensus about the comic so far. Also I kinda wish we hadn't immediately alienated our first vocal fan lol

But that's showbiz XD
It's always interesting to see just how divergent different reader's reads of the same story will be. Just like I wonder whether I'lle ventually get a reader (or already have one, but they haven't said anything) who thinks my comic is supposed to be like a paean to "the good old days" and an indictment of modernity or something like that when that's really not my aim at all.



Does anyone else find that paneling or thumbnailing is the most difficult part of the process? I mean, the actual drawing and stuff takes a long time, but for me, the part where I actually have to figure out the timing and spacing of everything on the page is the most challenging thing. I'm trying to get all of the thumbnails for the rest of the chapter done and it is proving to be way more time-consuming than I remembered. I think it's probably weird for it to be THIS mentally exhausting.

And I want to start working on the next page (you know, once thumbs are done) but feel like I'm somehow "not ready" for it on some level.
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VeryCuddlyCornpone wrote:Does anyone else find that paneling or thumbnailing is the most difficult part of the process?
Yeah, it's definitely my least favorite part. Whenever I'm trying to board out a page I have to force myself not to just rush though it and get to the actually drawing part.

I find it works best for me to board out a few pages at a time just because I sort of get into a rhythm and it's easier to get the timing of the pages down once I get going.

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VeryCuddlyCornpone wrote:Does anyone else find that paneling or thumbnailing is the most difficult part of the process?
Yeah, it's definitely my least favorite part. Whenever I'm trying to board out a page I have to force myself not to just rush though it and get to the actually drawing part.

I find it works best for me to board out a few pages at a time just because I sort of get into a rhythm and it's easier to get the timing of the pages down once I get going.
Yeah, that's what I ended up doing last night. I actually got through three scenes and then had to stop because i couldn't find the script for the next one. You kind of have to work up the momentum of being able to identify panel timing and beats I guess. I think part of the problem is because it's the part I do the least and that takes the least time- when you think of how many hours are spent sketching, inking, coloring, etc, you spend so much time on them that it's pretty much impossible to not eventually get better at them or at least find them easier. But making thumbnails you only do once per scene and it's not an ongoing process, at least for me.

I mean, for me it's like seeing the scene unfold like a movie in your head and trying to hit pause at the moments that would make a good encapsulating panel without having said too much or too little in the time that passed since the last panel you picked. And some scenes unfold way more naturally than others in that regard.




Last night I also did a very very rough outline of chapters 7 and 9- chapter 8 is more like an intermission type chapter so it doesn't really need that level of planning, but 7 and 9 deal with the same situations and themes, just extended over two chapters instead of one. I didn't put things in the order they'll appear in the comic, but I did go through character by character and scribble down an outline of their known scenes, so that way I can start making sure things will line up properly on an individual level and then figure out how to string them all together in a way that makes sense for the chapters.

These are going to be some long-ass chapters. I feel like they just keep getting longer and longer. I'm excited because I get to introduce some characters and scenarios I've been warming in the nest for a long time, so it'll be nice to finally "get to that point." It's really nice when things start to fall into place with seemingly no actual input from me.
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Thumbnailing is my most favoritest part. If I could do nothing but that I would be so productive. I just could lay a page out, imagine it in my mind, and never finish anythiiiiing.

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Glad to see you are back Sort :D I thought we'd lost ya D:
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I'm only mostly dead, despite numerous articles to the contrary!

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