Furry Porn Thread (NSFW)

[IVstudios]

If you don't understand the basics of humor, any discussion with me is not going to work. A fault of the Internet is that many have an inability to read humor, exaggeration or sarcasm without the audio required to enforce such notions. Those that get my sense of humor have been able to recognize when I'm not being serious, but the fault still remains. It's not a fault of the individuals at the other hand who respond in offense because of an inability to detect humorous intent, but the fault of this communications medium.

Yeah, most people don't get humor in written form. That's why you see so few humorous books and comics and magazines and stuff.

Or maybe you just need to work on your delivery. To paraphrase one of my favorite quotes:

If you have to explain a joke, it isn't funny.

If you have to explain to people "No, I wasn't being serious, it was all a joke!" you suck at telling jokes. And based on this thread, I'd say no one got your "joke."

[Turnsky]

of course during all of this it's worth noting that we've not been even provided with the name of the group or a link to them so the more astute could look at their 'rules' themselves.

instead we have to take his word for it.

[McDuffies]

If you don't understand the basics of humor, any discussion with me is not going to work. A fault of the Internet is that many have an inability to read humor, exaggeration or sarcasm without the audio required to enforce such notions. Those that get my sense of humor have been able to recognize when I'm not being serious, but the fault still remains. It's not a fault of the individuals at the other hand who respond in offense because of an inability to detect humorous intent, but the fault of this communications medium.

Ok. In light of that, I think it would be benefitial for all of us to have a few things clarified:

1) When you called the first amendment and freedom of speech and censorship, was that supposed to be humorous, or do you really actually think that what has happened to you is akin to real censorship and violation of the first amendment?
2) Do you really think that you were banned from the group because you were posting comics with real issues? Do you really think that you were banned because you don't draw pornography? Do you really think that members/mods of the group are depraved fur gays?
3) Do you really think that something constitutes as censorship if it was rejected only after it's previously been accepted?
4) Do you really think that your predicament is a result of a change in political climate (ie "Republicans taking over Congress" or was that connection drawn only for comical purposes?
5) Was posting of the link to some biased study about marijuena and giving some outrageous claims about it's benefits supposed to be a joke? Or maybe is was exageration (for comical purposes) of your actual beliefs?
6) Do you care about this issue at all? Does your posting here have some goal, some purpose? Or was the entire thing just a comedy piece?

I would like to know to which extent yout humor/sarcasm/exageration goes. It is true that it's something not easily read over internet, and it's also true that many people aproach unknown groups without neccesary caution not to get poorly understood. However if you care about being understood properly, it is about time you make some clarifications. There's no doubt your presentation here was funny, it's just a matter of how intentional this funny was.

The only serious thought in my process is that I believe that I was censored by the group because the work in question did not violate the group's rules, and because of this, there was no reason to delete content that the group had accepted months earlier. No contact was made and I never received any indication that anyone was ever offended by my comic, or the drawings related to the comic. The last thing I submitted was this:

http://mysticstudiosproduct.deviantart. ... -186046519

If a character standing fully clothed with no dialogue is offensive enough for you to kick someone out of your group for drawing it, than just about anything can be considered offensive. But they accept stuff that looks real fetishy to me, so there's obviously a political undercurrent here.

Yeah, again I'll mention that as you did not receive any information about banning (and you didn't ask for one either) you are just making guesses about reasons for it. For all you know, banning may be a result of one of following:
1. a mistake on the side of administrator (they happen you know).
2. a result of your text posts rather than of your comics (it is true that you come a bit strong). And if someone failed to interpret your sence of humor (which as you said happens) you might have unwittingly offended someone.
3. it may not be the visual side of your comic, you do tend to use words like "fag" very liberally and elsewhere you said you don't care about PC, so if you let slide something like, maybe, racial slurs, than that might have been the reason for your banning, because these are today a hotter button than pornography, and rightly so.
So for christs sake, if you really want to get back to that group, or at least if you care about finding out why you were banned - ask a moderator of the group, and try to do it politely and reasonably. You know - without mentioning constitution and Obama.

[Turnsky]

*snip*

It's worth noting that delving into his Devart, he does have what one would refer to as "Furry porn".

[Yeahduff]

So, wait. You guys are clicking his links?

[Turnsky]

So, wait. You guys are clicking his links?

Morbid curiosity compelled me to.

[Yeahduff]

Never been a carwreck kinda guy, my continued presence in this thread not withstanding.

[Bustertheclown]

Never been a carwreck kinda guy, my continued presence in this thread not withstanding.

Well, there is a difference between looking at a car wreck and being involved in one, and this thread is beginning to look like pileup.

[Turnsky]

Never been a carwreck kinda guy, my continued presence in this thread not withstanding.

Well, there is a difference between looking at a car wreck and being involved in one, and this thread is beginning to look like pileup.

on some train tracks.

[Ahaugen]

I prefer to think of it as that scene from "The Blues Brothers" where all those police cars rear end each other

[Turnsky]

I prefer to think of it as that scene from "The Blues Brothers" where all those police cars rear end each other

yeah but that was cool though.

[Laemkral]

I prefer to think of it as that scene from "The Blues Brothers" where all those police cars rear end each other

Greatest car crash sequence....EVER.

[McDuffies]

Never been a carwreck kinda guy, my continued presence in this thread not withstanding.

But who can resist a trainwreck that somehow follows some obscure, inescapable logic.

[Turnsky]

Never been a carwreck kinda guy, my continued presence in this thread not withstanding.

But who can resist a trainwreck that somehow follows some obscure, inescapable logic.

The logic here is that a furry got punted from a DA group, and instead of being calm and asking 'why' decides to illustrate (both metaphorically and literally) as to one reason he could've been banned, citing various rights that chances are, probably do not have any bearing on his situation whatsoever. During this tirade he cites that "he doesn't draw furry porn" and they kicked him out for no reason. Delving further lo and behold, some was found, albeit rather unpleasant to look at.

Taking from this i can safely assume that he was banned from the DA group because of what he had in his gallery of an adult content, which probably went against the group's rating (some are PG-13 groups, too) and such courses of action were taken from there.
He could've learnt this himself had he just asked them in a nice, calm fashion. Instead of turning into a heap of whine and shooting himself in the foot over it.


Cheese, anyone?

[MSPcomix]

1) When you called the first amendment and freedom of speech and censorship, was that supposed to be humorous, or do you really actually think that what has happened to you is akin to real censorship and violation of the first amendment?

I never said that there was a first amendment violation. I said that because of my first amendment rights, I out-trump them.

2) Do you really think that you were banned from the group because you were posting comics with real issues? Do you really think that you were banned because you don't draw pornography? Do you really think that members/mods of the group are depraved fur gays?

I think that someone held a political grudge against me. I don't think that I was banned because I don't post porn.

3) Do you really think that something constitutes as censorship if it was rejected only after it's previously been accepted?

If something is published, and there is an attempt to suppress it, it's censorship.

4) Do you really think that your predicament is a result of a change in political climate (ie "Republicans taking over Congress" or was that connection drawn only for comical purposes?

No, I don't believe that a Republican congress had anything to do with this.

5) Was posting of the link to some biased study about marijuena and giving some outrageous claims about it's benefits supposed to be a joke? Or maybe is was exageration (for comical purposes) of your actual beliefs?

There is no bias in the study. The link I posted discussed multiple studies which proved that marijuana has a positive health effect. I've made no outrageous claims about its benefits. Everything I've stated is the truth, as proven by endless studies since we've first started to look at it.

It's worth noting that delving into his Devart, he does have what one would refer to as "Furry porn".

It's incredibly simple-minded to ascribe anything with nudity as pornography. Horndog is not furry, nor is it porn. There is no hardcore sex in the comic. All content in the comic enhances the story and humor, and there is no content which exists for any purpose of arousal. The nudity isn't even gratuitous. Horndog is less explicit sexually than a Harold and Kumar stoner movie.

It should be noted that even though deviantART expressively prohibits explicit sex, I've seen shit that gets around this. Some people draw porn and censor the explicit details, some people draw porn without explicit content, and then there is stuff that I arbitrarily categorize as porn because I don't enjoy it on a humorous level, and it contains something that, while it may seem innocent to one person, qualifies as porn to people in the know. Ever see comics where the characters are just rubbing their bellies all the time? Something seem weird about that? Here's what it is: that's porn. Some people have a fetish for that.

Horndog does not feature any kind of porn. There is no explicit or softcore porn, no non-explicit fetish content, or anything beyond what would be palatable to most normal people. There's worse content on Family Guy, The Simpsons and South Park than there is in Horndog.

The logic here is that a furry got punted from a DA group

I am not a furry. I've never drawn furries in my life.

[Ahaugen]

1) When you called the first amendment and freedom of speech and censorship, was that supposed to be humorous, or do you really actually think that what has happened to you is akin to real censorship and violation of the first amendment?

I never said that there was a first amendment violation. I said that because of my first amendment rights, I out-trump them.

2) Do you really think that you were banned from the group because you were posting comics with real issues? Do you really think that you were banned because you don't draw pornography? Do you really think that members/mods of the group are depraved fur gays?

I think that someone held a political grudge against me. I don't think that I was banned because I don't post porn.

3) Do you really think that something constitutes as censorship if it was rejected only after it's previously been accepted?

If something is published, and there is an attempt to suppress it, it's censorship.

4) Do you really think that your predicament is a result of a change in political climate (ie "Republicans taking over Congress" or was that connection drawn only for comical purposes?

No, I don't believe that a Republican congress had anything to do with this.

5) Was posting of the link to some biased study about marijuena and giving some outrageous claims about it's benefits supposed to be a joke? Or maybe is was exageration (for comical purposes) of your actual beliefs?

There is no bias in the study. The link I posted discussed multiple studies which proved that marijuana has a positive health effect. I've made no outrageous claims about its benefits. Everything I've stated is the truth, as proven by endless studies since we've first started to look at it.

It's worth noting that delving into his Devart, he does have what one would refer to as "Furry porn".

It's incredibly simple-minded to ascribe anything with nudity as pornography. Horndog is not furry, nor is it porn. There is no hardcore sex in the comic. All content in the comic enhances the story and humor, and there is no content which exists for any purpose of arousal. The nudity isn't even gratuitous. Horndog is less explicit sexually than a Harold and Kumar stoner movie.

It should be noted that even though deviantART expressively prohibits explicit sex, I've seen shit that gets around this. Some people draw porn and censor the explicit details, some people draw porn without explicit content, and then there is stuff that I arbitrarily categorize as porn because I don't enjoy it on a humorous level, and it contains something that, while it may seem innocent to one person, qualifies as porn to people in the know. Ever see comics where the characters are just rubbing their bellies all the time? Something seem weird about that? Here's what it is: that's porn. Some people have a fetish for that.

Horndog does not feature any kind of porn. There is no explicit or softcore porn, no non-explicit fetish content, or anything beyond what would be palatable to most normal people. There's worse content on Family Guy, The Simpsons and South Park than there is in Horndog.

The logic here is that a furry got punted from a DA group

I am not a furry. I've never drawn furries in my life.

and the point we're trying to make is that no one here cares that this happened, we just all think you're a tool and like poking you with a pointed stick to see how long you'll keep coming back to defend yourself

[MSPcomix]

I am beyond astounded at the petty, jealous crap in this thread. I've gotten sensible, supportive responses from people who don't even like my comix. How low do you have to be where you're insulting someone purely because he's doing better than you are at attaining praise and fans even though his comic is underground and doesn't have any mainstream promotion?

It's insulting that some people want to ride my dick to fame and diss me to drive more attention to them. Pathetic.

[Turnsky]

I am not a furry. I've never drawn furries in my life.

THIS.

This is hilarious. The funniest thing i've seen happen in these forums since BOBNUMBERS.

You Draw Anthropomorphic Characters/Cartoon Animals. Some even in sexual situations, naked, or whatever.

Congratulations, you're a Furry.

[MSPcomix]

I am not a furry. I've never drawn furries in my life.

THIS.

This is hilarious. The funniest thing i've seen happen in these forums since BOBNUMBERS.

You Draw Anthropomorphic Characters/Cartoon Animals. Some even in sexual situations, naked, or whatever.

Congratulations, you're a Furry.

By definition, the characters you draw are "furry". I don't draw furries. I draw cartoons. I've stated many times, Horndog is a funny aminal comic, not a furry comic. I use anthropomorphism in some of my comics because it is required to fit the story or concept. One can enjoy Star Trek without being a trekkie.

[Turnsky]

I am not a furry. I've never drawn furries in my life.

THIS.

This is hilarious. The funniest thing i've seen happen in these forums since BOBNUMBERS.

You Draw Anthropomorphic Characters/Cartoon Animals. Some even in sexual situations, naked, or whatever.

Congratulations, you're a Furry.

By definition, the characters you draw are "furry". I don't draw furries. I draw cartoons. I've stated many times, Horndog is a funny aminal comic, not a furry comic. I use anthropomorphism in some of my comics because it is required to fit the story or concept. One can enjoy Star Trek without being a trekkie.

yes, but if one enjoys star trek then makes porn of it. then they're a trekkie.