well they did edit the movie down from 4 1/2 hours. maybe those scenes will be on the directors cut.Rkolter wrote:Well, I liked it. It was a pretty well done movie, and I now understand what that reviewer meant by them staying true to the story. To a large degree that's true. They do cut out some scenes and some lines, particularly some of them that I liked. Character development suffers.t.
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One of the big things they cut was the Tales from the Black Freighter. It will be in the director's cut, but I doubt it will develop the characters any.Phact0rri wrote:well they did edit the movie down from 4 1/2 hours. maybe those scenes will be on the directors cut.Rkolter wrote:Well, I liked it. It was a pretty well done movie, and I now understand what that reviewer meant by them staying true to the story. To a large degree that's true. They do cut out some scenes and some lines, particularly some of them that I liked. Character development suffers.t.
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actually tales of the Black Freighter is going to be a stand alone direct-to-tv animated piece. though I've heard talk (industry buzz) that eventually they will edit it into an "ultimate" edition.KWill wrote:One of the big things they cut was the Tales from the Black Freighter. It will be in the director's cut, but I doubt it will develop the characters any.Phact0rri wrote:well they did edit the movie down from 4 1/2 hours. maybe those scenes will be on the directors cut.Rkolter wrote:Well, I liked it. It was a pretty well done movie, and I now understand what that reviewer meant by them staying true to the story. To a large degree that's true. They do cut out some scenes and some lines, particularly some of them that I liked. Character development suffers.t.
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Saw it last night. Most of what there is to say has already been said, so I'll just ad that:
About a week ago me and my friend (who had never read the comic) watched the motion comic, it was about six hours long (twelve half hour chapters). The movie was a little less than three hours long. I had no trouble sitting through the motion comic (in two, three hour sessions). By the end if the movie I had a headache and felt exhausted. If you have a choice, watch the motion comic, it's much better.
About a week ago me and my friend (who had never read the comic) watched the motion comic, it was about six hours long (twelve half hour chapters). The movie was a little less than three hours long. I had no trouble sitting through the motion comic (in two, three hour sessions). By the end if the movie I had a headache and felt exhausted. If you have a choice, watch the motion comic, it's much better.
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the more I think about it, the more I like it- just keep in mind it isn't a direct translation and more of a parody of comic book/action movies and you'll have a great time!
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I thought it was good. I actually put the book down near "final entry" and decided not to finish it until I saw the movie.
That said, I had to leave the theater due due to a washroom emergency, and came back just in time for a certain special effect scene.
I missed about 6 pages worth of "why I did it" in the comic for whatever I missed in the movie.
The movie is faithful to the comic,though I'm sure there will be a lot of grumpiness about what was cut. Some of the violence was unnecessary.
That said, I had to leave the theater due due to a washroom emergency, and came back just in time for a certain special effect scene.
I missed about 6 pages worth of "why I did it" in the comic for whatever I missed in the movie.
The movie is faithful to the comic,though I'm sure there will be a lot of grumpiness about what was cut. Some of the violence was unnecessary.
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I quit reading watchmen around issue six. *l* I like alan moore as a person, he's a really interesting guy, but his comics are soooo boring. Even the motion comic, which is pretty neat to watch and highly recommended... I had to force myself to watch the last three issues.Kisai wrote:I thought it was good. I actually put the book down near "final entry" and decided not to finish it until I saw the movie.
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I am convinced to watch it because this scene makes me laugh 
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[snark]That's the price of being the great American novel. [/snark]Phact0rri wrote:I quit reading watchmen around issue six. *l* I like alan moore as a person, he's a really interesting guy, but his comics are soooo boring. Even the motion comic, which is pretty neat to watch and highly recommended... I had to force myself to watch the last three issues.Kisai wrote:I thought it was good. I actually put the book down near "final entry" and decided not to finish it until I saw the movie.
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being boring?McDuffies wrote:[snark]That's the price of being the great American novel. [/snark]Phact0rri wrote:I quit reading watchmen around issue six. *l* I like alan moore as a person, he's a really interesting guy, but his comics are soooo boring. Even the motion comic, which is pretty neat to watch and highly recommended... I had to force myself to watch the last three issues.Kisai wrote:I thought it was good. I actually put the book down near "final entry" and decided not to finish it until I saw the movie.
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Being British?McDuffies wrote:[snark]That's the price of being the great American novel. [/snark]Phact0rri wrote:I quit reading watchmen around issue six. *l* I like alan moore as a person, he's a really interesting guy, but his comics are soooo boring. Even the motion comic, which is pretty neat to watch and highly recommended... I had to force myself to watch the last three issues.Kisai wrote:I thought it was good. I actually put the book down near "final entry" and decided not to finish it until I saw the movie.
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Just watched it having never read the original material, nor having even heard of it before the trailers came out a few months ago.
I can sum it up as "the movie that does not go anywhere". The only interesting character gets killed for no discernible reason, the guy I wanted to die lived happily ever after, they have a character who is immortal and has super powers while the others are "cops in costumes" and most of the characters have the emotional responses of a plank of wood. The guy that owned the dogs was the only character that conveyed any convincing emotion.
I second that the "hallelujah" bit was over the top. It was meant to be an emotional and sexy scene of intimacy. I found it to be a totally inappropriate musical choice since it made the scene into a farce and that it hit all the wrong emotional queues. And a lot of the violence was excessive. The alley scene with the arm-breaking - wtf? Okay, super-heroes getting mugged and then beating up the muggers is amusing. Doing massive physical trauma and permanent, debilitating injuries to random strangers as a form of foreplay? That kinda puts them on the other end of the moral compass.
And there was either too much wang or not enough. If Dr Manhattan is going to run around naked, then he should either always be naked ("What do I care for modesty") or he should always be dressed (in either his suit or thong). Having him alternating between being uptight and swinging free detracted from the film.
Maybe I'm just missing a lot of information that made the comic awesome that didn't make it into the movie, but the impression that I got was of a flat narrative where the viewer has no real connection with the characters, hence does not care if they live or die or save the day or end up in a retirement home. Except the ginger - he was cool.
I can sum it up as "the movie that does not go anywhere". The only interesting character gets killed for no discernible reason, the guy I wanted to die lived happily ever after, they have a character who is immortal and has super powers while the others are "cops in costumes" and most of the characters have the emotional responses of a plank of wood. The guy that owned the dogs was the only character that conveyed any convincing emotion.
I second that the "hallelujah" bit was over the top. It was meant to be an emotional and sexy scene of intimacy. I found it to be a totally inappropriate musical choice since it made the scene into a farce and that it hit all the wrong emotional queues. And a lot of the violence was excessive. The alley scene with the arm-breaking - wtf? Okay, super-heroes getting mugged and then beating up the muggers is amusing. Doing massive physical trauma and permanent, debilitating injuries to random strangers as a form of foreplay? That kinda puts them on the other end of the moral compass.
And there was either too much wang or not enough. If Dr Manhattan is going to run around naked, then he should either always be naked ("What do I care for modesty") or he should always be dressed (in either his suit or thong). Having him alternating between being uptight and swinging free detracted from the film.
Maybe I'm just missing a lot of information that made the comic awesome that didn't make it into the movie, but the impression that I got was of a flat narrative where the viewer has no real connection with the characters, hence does not care if they live or die or save the day or end up in a retirement home. Except the ginger - he was cool.
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Weeell... if it's graphic novel.Komiyan wrote:Being British?McDuffies wrote: [snark]That's the price of being the great American novel. [/snark]
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The comic gave more context to this. The only time he wore cloths for the most part was when people made him. Eventually as he slowly drifted further and further out of touch with humanity he just stopped caring altogether.Dr Neo Lao wrote: And there was either too much wang or not enough. If Dr Manhattan is going to run around naked, then he should either always be naked ("What do I care for modesty") or he should always be dressed (in either his suit or thong). Having him alternating between being uptight and swinging free detracted from the film.
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I thought 99 Luftballons was more inappropriate. The only song about things escalating into a war in a movie about things nearly escalating into a war gets used on a restaurant scene... I thought it was a waste.Dr Neo Lao wrote:I second that the "hallelujah" bit was over the top. It was meant to be an emotional and sexy scene of intimacy. I found it to be a totally inappropriate musical choice since it made the scene into a farce and that it hit all the wrong emotional queues.
But that's probably just because I'm German.
The arm breaking is straight from the book and justified insofar as they are severely out-knived and out-numbered. But they do take it a lot further in the movie than in the book.And a lot of the violence was excessive. The alley scene with the arm-breaking - wtf? Okay, super-heroes getting mugged and then beating up the muggers is amusing. Doing massive physical trauma and permanent, debilitating injuries to random strangers as a form of foreplay? That kinda puts them on the other end of the moral compass.
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I thought they both followed the book to closely, and not closely enough.
Things that work in comic form come across as confusing in film--the frequent use of flashbacks, for instance.
Scenes that were fine in the book are just long in the movie, and the dialogue that works in print comes across as corny on screen.
In addition, they left out information that was necessary for people who had not read the book to get certain things. many of my freinds came up to me afterward asking, "what's the deal with rorshacts mask" and/or 'why did they even mention the older team?"
I'm still not sure how I feel about doc manhattan's acting. on the one had, the fact that he was flat and unemotional could be an excellent take on the character. On the Other hand, it could just be indicative of an inability to act.
I didn't mind the ending change, but i didn;t think it was brilliant either.
the sex scene was way to long, but I don't mind the fact that it wasn't this emotional sexy scene. It wasn't supposed to be. it was supposed to come off as a little warped and disturbing. my problem with it is that they made sex boring.
so, all in all, I have to give the movie a "C".
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Things that work in comic form come across as confusing in film--the frequent use of flashbacks, for instance.
Scenes that were fine in the book are just long in the movie, and the dialogue that works in print comes across as corny on screen.
In addition, they left out information that was necessary for people who had not read the book to get certain things. many of my freinds came up to me afterward asking, "what's the deal with rorshacts mask" and/or 'why did they even mention the older team?"
I'm still not sure how I feel about doc manhattan's acting. on the one had, the fact that he was flat and unemotional could be an excellent take on the character. On the Other hand, it could just be indicative of an inability to act.
I didn't mind the ending change, but i didn;t think it was brilliant either.
the sex scene was way to long, but I don't mind the fact that it wasn't this emotional sexy scene. It wasn't supposed to be. it was supposed to come off as a little warped and disturbing. my problem with it is that they made sex boring.
so, all in all, I have to give the movie a "C".
Wait and rent it.



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The only question that natters is, did it work for the role?Dracomax wrote: I'm still not sure how I feel about doc manhattan's acting. on the one had, the fact that he was flat and unemotional could be an excellent take on the character. On the Other hand, it could just be indicative of an inability to act.
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Bastards!Dracomax wrote:my problem with it is that they made sex boring.