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fi13r wrote:
Kevin Wolf wrote:I understand the comic and metaphoric value of a character who is a chicken with its head cut off
Metaphoric? Do tell.

I just did that mainly because I figured it was standoutish-bizarre. ;)
The chicken with its head cut off runs around (both literally and metaphorically) like a chicken with its head cut off (constantly hatching crazy schemes and ditching them when his ADD kicks in). I thought that was intentional.

By the way:

"Class is the EXPLOSIVE!" :lol:
Of course, I'm the one that isn't JP Sloan or Jim North.

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In attempt to get this thread back to normal, I'll re-anti-wiev ARG, NetherOak and NeTrek, but shortly:


1. ARG: Bad? Big breaks. You asked me about bad things on ARG? Shame on you. Ok, here: I didn't like a few bathroom jokes that occured here and there. Big-nosed guy annoys me a bit, but that's just me... I guess someone else should answer this after all...

2. NetherOak: The very beginning of the comic seemed like yet another one extremely unoriginal school comic. But it got much better once the plot got going.
I dunno... main problem with NetherOak for me is, it left me cold... I didn't hate it, nor specially like it... I couldn't say why, I guess it just simply doesn't appeal me.

3.NeTrek: Drawing could be better and I guess it will. Story is too often interrupted by real-life-like happenings. Which is refreshing unless if there's too much of it and there is. Sometimes I can't really understand what's going on.

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Okay, Dunnboyz . . . .

Okay, art-wise. Could stand to clean up a few outlines and such.

And the real-life stuff is usually my pitiful excuse as to why I can't get the strip out on time . . . ever. But eventually, I plan on drawing the real life characters more into the plot, eventually merging the two. but that's kinda hush-hush still. I'll try to relegate the staff and myself a little more into the BG.

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mcDuffies
I've only red a month or twoo, but I like this, and I won't rest till I read this all.
some bad things I noticed
well, some jokes are not funny, don't get me wrong- I don't require a joke every time, but sometimes it seems like you're trying to make a joke, and fail.

as for the art: not really my favourite (recently I preffer like art I can learn from)
but your's is ok- everything's clear...
well, almost everything
what is it the two guys are holding
here

mcDuffies summary: I'll be back for more.



DunnBoyz
somehow it reminds me of MacHall,
I like MacHall, but I think one is enough.

and I somehow I don't like your jokes too much, maybe I heard them already?

art is ok.

but ... large open space between panels make me think you're wasting space.
(ie you could have one panel with no borders, and a few floating over it)
but it's just me.

DunnBoyz summary, I don't think I'll become a reader, but others my like it.




netrek:
story seems interesting (too bad it came to a dead stop recently)

I don't like your 133+ character though.
(seems like a cheap excuse to boast about your 133+ 5|<331z)

art:okl, again not really my favourite
(dammn, I used that sentence 3 times already, oh I know, I'll delete it from DunnBoyz review, ahh, that's better)
but it has enough quality not to be disturbing
when backed up with a solid plot, and humour.

computer post processing: recently it's ok,
but you need to redo the archives.
and you really need to learn to optymize your files.

netrek summary: I would read it, was there anything new to read.
and modem users beware some files are like ridiculously huge.

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I don't read anyone else's comics because I don't have enough free time; does that make me a bad Keenspacer?

And has anyone managed to read my comic? I know you haven't, so I'll just diss myself. My handwriting is atrocious.
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Okay, explanation that might blow your minds a little . . .

I actually started drawing NeTrek in March during rehearsals for a spring musical. It wasn't until June that I found and signed up for KeenSpace. In those three months, I used NeTrek as my therapy, savagely attacking anything I was remarkably angry at. This is why I have been redrawing all of the episodes, as I got into huge chunks of trouble for some that I did and nearly got beaten within an inch of my life once.

"Trony", then, was my running joke at techno-people and all the languages they use, languages I now use with some degree of proficiency. Thus, he's a more positive character than the blatantly hotheaded and insecure robot he was in the original. If that comes across as an arrogant boasting character, I'm sorry.

I just finished scanning another batch of archives on the cranky slow computer tonight (an hour and a half for about a week of archives . . . ) and will post them as soon as I can reconnect the Zip Drive. And I'm sorry about the lack of newness (on which part? lack of recent comics or new jokes? Pfeh, it matters not.), I'm drawing as fast as I can while keeping school in line.

Ahh, crap, I put you all to sleep.

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netrek wrote:"Trony", then, was my running joke at techno-people and all the languages they use, languages I now use with some degree of proficiency.
it's the "proficiency" part that bothers me.
seems like you're trying to show off,
maybe I got it wrong,
I mean I have nothing about 13373|25,
and leet can be funny, but gets boring after a while.

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YarpsDat wrote: well, some jokes are not funny, don't get me wrong- I don't require a joke every time, but sometimes it seems like you're trying to make a joke, and fail.
That's true.
YarpsDat wrote: as for the art: not really my favourite (recently I preffer like art I can learn from)
but your's is ok- everything's clear...
well, almost everything
what is it the two guys are holding
here.
Guns. Meh. Not that I suck at drawing guns, but sometimes I just don't try hard enough. Bad me.

Yeah. That was some high-quality and very usefull critique.

This thread is easily turning into "critic every comic above" :wink:

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mcDuffies wrote:
YarpsDat wrote: what is it the two guys are holding
here.
Guns. Meh. Not that I suck at drawing guns, but sometimes I just don't try hard enough. Bad me.
actualy I figured that, but these particular 'guns' look very un-gun-like.

mcDuffies wrote: This thread is easily turning into "critic every comic above" :wink:
is that bad?
1.I think it will be easier to stay on topic that way (better 'signal to noise ratio")
2.if somoene skips one comic, the next person can review it without thinking "hmm, should I review this, or that, this or that, oooh, I don't know, I go somewhere else"
3.DunnyBoyz broke the chain by not having criticized anything.
4.until now it seemed you can just review one, and once it's done, it's no longer the last in the thread.
now the same site may be reviewed multiple times, without it looking weird
(and more reviews=more poins of view)


and why we're at it, could someone review mine?
just click the www button or this link

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The Road from Nowhere. Well, I started at the beginning of your comic, and have read the first 32 so far. My thoughts are that so far, I'm not certain the plot has enough to keep the reader curious about what will happen next and where it's going, the "hook" if you will.

Sometimes the merging of line art, text, and computer effects is a bit ackward, but I also know as you mention in your comment notes, that you were experimenting, so I can't see hold that against you as point to critique. I would however have liked to see a bit more contrast between the wallpaper background and the strip since there's so much white in the backgrounds of the panels.

Oh, and the strip for 12-12-01, #24, is got the little red x action happening.

The pages load smoothly though, and navigation of your strips is easy and accessible which I always find to be a big plus. You take chances with the action in the panels also which I think is another plus, and it shows in the growth of your skill as you go along. Kudos to you for that and sticking with it. A 119 and strips and still going! :D

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YarpsDat wrote:it's the "proficiency" part that bothers me.
seems like you're trying to show off,
maybe I got it wrong,
I mean I have nothing about 13373|25,
and leet can be funny, but gets boring after a while.
Someone alert <A HREF="http://www.megatokyo.com">Piro!</A>

But yah, I see what you mean. Actually, once I got him meshed into the plot in the original, his l337 accent just about disappeared as I started finding quirks and other ways to play with his personality. (also, in the original, he started off not speaking any English at all. I hope this is an improvement.)

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WEEE!!!!

I get to dis Wrecked!!!

*ahem*

thewreckage.net by Christopher Harrell

Well, I dig your art. The drab works nicely for what you've written. It's so Depressing! You should try to make your characters tell more "jokes"

I guess since it's a journal comic the only thing that really sucks about it is your life.

Love and hugs,
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indybuda wrote:WEEE!!!!

I get to dis Wrecked!!!
Like you've needed an excuse before???
[/quote]
*ahem*

thewreckage.net by Christopher Harrell

Well, I dig your art. The drab works nicely for what you've written. It's so Depressing! You should try to make your characters tell more "jokes"

I guess since it's a journal comic the only thing that really sucks about it is your life.

Love and hugs,
-Indy[/quote]

:( So unfunny am I ..

:evil: Wait, don't I get to do hotel grim now???

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nowhere.keenspace.com:
(reviewed after reading comic on index page)

Nice art; very realistic, a little too sketchy.

Could stand a little grammar check here and there.

Obviously not a humor comic - I'm not saying this is bad; I'm just saying I probably wouldn't have found it if not for being asked for a review. Perhaps that in itself is a recommendation.

All in all: okay, but not for me.

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WreckedHead wrote: So unfunny am I ..

:evil: Wait, don't I get to do hotel grim now???
Yes. Yes you do :D
Hotel Grim!Just your typical everyday in Purgatory.

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WreckedHead wrote: So unfunny am I ..

:evil: Wait, don't I get to do hotel grim now???
Yes. Yes you do :D
Hotel Grim!Just your typical everyday in Purgatory.

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WreckedHead wrote: So unfunny am I ..

:evil: Wait, don't I get to do hotel grim now???
Yes. Yes you do :D
Hotel Grim!Just your typical everyday in Purgatory.

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There is no need to alert Piro- he knows that,
that's why he has thoes boxes with "translations", that make it 10 times funnier, (When I see "60+|-| c1xx0r 0w|\|z0|25 j00" translated as "you're loosing", makes me ROTFL)
and (I think) that's why the 1337 master pops in, does his preachings, and disappears before it gets boring.

netrek wrote:nowhere.keenspace.com:
(reviewed after reading comic on index page)
netrek wrote: Nice art [...] a little too sketchy.
Obviously not a humor comic
do you mean #119?
aparently index page is not enough

-I don't think this particular episode is characteritic for me.
It's more sketchy than usual and less funny than usual
(my rant for this ep. goes:
it's all in pencil only
I just didn't feel like inking that day.
also I didn't feel like inventing a punchline that day.)
:wink:
netrek wrote: Could stand a little grammar check here and there.
Well, english my second language,
does it show badly?

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It shows here and there as you get words out of order, double letters, leave out articles, etc.

And using sth instead of something is a dead giveaway that you're using a dictionary.

. . . Incidentally, what's your first language?

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netrek wrote:It shows here and there as you get words out of order, double letters, leave out articles, etc.
but is that really bad, or only a little bad?
netrek wrote:And using sth instead of something is a dead giveaway that you're using a dictionary.
what?
I used "sth" just so the wordbubble would take less space.
and I don't understand why does it indicate I was using a dictionary.

netrek wrote: . . . Incidentally, what's your first language?
it's Polish.

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