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Killbert-Robby · Post by **Killbert-Robby** » Sun May 21, 2006 5:45 am

I couldn't stop laughing trying to find all of the references to the previous panel, like the fingers in the eyes.

Jeffy · Post by **Jeffy** » Sun May 21, 2006 7:24 am

I've made fun of dead, rotting babies, and given the chance I'd make fun of cancer, especially since there's a chance I have one of the most HILARIOUS forms of cancer known to man! But I guess I won't find that out for a while yet, damn you heredity!

Rickford · Post by **Rickford** » Sun May 21, 2006 11:23 am

Hehe, thanks Rob. As it happens, I know the King of Dead baby jokes. Some of them aren't particularly funny, but the sheer volume of them more than makes up for it.

Soldier Volkov · Post by **Soldier Volkov** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:17 pm

For me there are two main things that should not be joked about:

1. Leave all religions alone. All joking like this does is make a whole darn bunch of people angry and spreads conflict. The world would be a much kinder and more peaceful place if people would just live and let live with this sort of thing. Half the time, religious jokes make a generalized statement about a group of people that the joker likely knows nothing about, with no idea what the religion actually believes. In my experiance, every religious joke I've seen just makes the joker look stupid.
People tend to take their personal beliefs seriously so I don't think religion falls into the realm of humor.

2. Sexual jokes are revolting. Plus they're awfully hakneyed and tiresome. Although slightly PG flirtatiousness is often very funny. I'm particularly fond of that kind of humor.

I think the danger of using humor to cover up reality is that, after time, certain things tend to not bother one anymore when they definately should. While I understand where Laemkral and others are coming from, I would just say beware of simply making excuses for bad behavior in the name of an "escape".

Ahaugen · Post by **Ahaugen** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:21 pm

I'm of the opinion that if it is taken too seriously, it deserves to be satarized. because without pressing the button, humor will become nothing more than jokes from "Hanna Montana" and other assorted rot on the Disney Channel

Blackaby · Post by **Blackaby** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:39 pm

I don't know. We have sex jokes, sexuality jokes, religious jokes and race jokes, and I'm okay with all of them. I guess we could put in other more controversial things, but it wouldn't really suit the comic. Also, once I get my high horse onto a soap box, I rarely get off.

Soldier Volkov · Post by **Soldier Volkov** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:46 pm

ahaugen wrote:I'm of the opinion that if it is taken too seriously, it deserves to be satarized. because without pressing the button, humor will become nothing more than jokes from "Hanna Montana" and other assorted rot on the Disney Channel

There are certain things in the world that have to be taken very seriously and should not be made light of. It can be dangerous not to take them seriously.

ShineDog · Post by **ShineDog** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:47 pm

There are certain things in the world that have to be taken very seriously and should not be made light of. It can be dangerous not to take them seriously.

only because people take things too seriously.

Ahaugen · Post by **Ahaugen** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:50 pm

are we talking about satire or hurricanes?

Sput · Post by **Sput** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:52 pm

ahaugen wrote:are we talking about satire or hurricanes?

terrorists !

ShineDog · Post by **ShineDog** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:52 pm

that is a very important question.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Sun May 21, 2006 4:10 pm

I like sex jokes. Sex is the funniest thing ever.

Laemkral · Post by **Laemkral** » Sun May 21, 2006 4:41 pm

Soldier Volkov wrote:
ahaugen wrote:I'm of the opinion that if it is taken too seriously, it deserves to be satarized. because without pressing the button, humor will become nothing more than jokes from "Hanna Montana" and other assorted rot on the Disney Channel

There are certain things in the world that have to be taken very seriously and should not be made light of. It can be dangerous not to take them seriously.

There is nothing, I repeat, nothing that can not be made fun of given the proper context. Just because some prick doesn't find it funny, doesn't mean there isn't humor in the statement. The only real variable is when it is socially (key word) appropriate to make the joke.

As I said, humor is how some people deal with trauma. They may make jokes about some horribly tragic event they just experienced because humor helps them stay sane. I'd be willing to bet there was someone making jokes about September 11th the day it happened, right here in the US probably, because that is how they deal with trauma.

Just because something is held to be sacred, doesn't mean it is off limits to be ridiculed. Do it in the right way and people will laugh.

Boogiebop · Post by **Boogiebop** » Sun May 21, 2006 4:54 pm

OBS wrote:
Boogiebop wrote:Just because we have freedom of expression in this genre and medium does that mean we should use it without restraint?
Yes, because this is the very essence of freedom of expression; without restraint. The instant any kind of limitation is imposed on it, it isn't freedom of expression anymore. It is infinite and all encompassing and nothing is to be excluded.

Nothing says I can't draw Mohammed eating pork because no limitations are keeping from doing so. It is of my choosing and of my will to draw Mohammed eating pork because I have that freedom.

It wouldn't be called freedom of expression if there were self-imposed limits.

Not that I want to get tied up in a semantic argument here but to refrain from doing something does not imply that you're not free to do so. Indeed a large part of expression is the freedom to use your own judgement, sometimes It's as important not to express something as it to express it.

Princess · Post by **Princess** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:06 am

Soldier Volkov wrote: 2. Sexual jokes are revolting. Plus they're awfully hakneyed and tiresome. Although slightly PG flirtatiousness is often very funny. I'm particularly fond of that kind of humor.

Dirty jokes have been around since the days of cave men- I don't think they are going to become hackneyed any time soon.

I say, shock the shockable and delight the delightful

Sortelli · Post by **Sortelli** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:26 am

Hooray for sex!

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:39 am

Laemkral wrote:As I said, humor is how some people deal with trauma. They may make jokes about some horribly tragic event they just experienced because humor helps them stay sane. I'd be willing to bet there was someone making jokes about September 11th the day it happened, right here in the US probably, because that is how they deal with trauma.

I don't know about 9/11 but I can speak from my personal experience: during the bombing, we used to constantly crack jokes about it. I think I've never laughed so much in my life as during those three months. I used to say that the whole nation went temporary completely crazy, which is what kept it sane.

Godai · Post by **Godai** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:42 am

Well, it all very much depends. I have a character in a wheelchair, who made a few ironic/funny comments about his disability, but it was a tough and slippery ground to enter and I usually avoid it.

Though I got a note from a real-life disabled person that the jokes were acceptable and defended themselves. So I guess it's about being true to what you think anyway, so that it doesn't come out artificial and heavy.

Princess · Post by **Princess** » Mon May 22, 2006 1:19 am

mcDuffies wrote: I don't know about 9/11 but I can speak from my personal experience: during the bombing, we used to constantly crack jokes about it. I think I've never laughed so much in my life as during those three months. I used to say that the whole nation went temporary completely crazy, which is what kept it sane.

I nearly lost my leg once , and it was my Dad joking about putting it in the freezer or feeding it to the cat that kept me from getting depressed!

(and you wonder why I am a little twisted!)

Jackhass · Post by **Jackhass** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:25 am

Soldier Volkov wrote:2. Sexual jokes are revolting. Plus they're awfully hakneyed and tiresome. Although slightly PG flirtatiousness is often very funny. I'm particularly fond of that kind of humor.

Sex jokes are funny...real funny. So are fart and poop jokes.

I don't use them in my comic though. It's too easy.

I could make my comic a series of dirty sex jokes told by a guy on a toilet and it would be funny...but I'm looking to do something a little more than that. Not having sex/toilet humor in my comic is in large part not so much a content thing, as a challenging myself thing.

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