The KeenCaptors!

DEVO-Bot · Post by **DEVO-Bot** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:15 pm

I'm gonna go with Luprand on this one, "KeenCaptors" sounds like a fine name to me.

Superlance · Post by **Superlance** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:11 pm

Some person who joined my KeenComicClub over on DeviantART was bugging me about this earlier...
I let him join, because I am nice, but I told him to shut up, and mind his own business about it; because RPin had never heard of their club.
I told him if he wanted publicity for his Card-thing, he should have posted it on the forums, to which he replied he couldn't, because he had a bad rep on the forum.

KittyKatBlack · Post by **KittyKatBlack** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:31 pm

Has anyone that has joined DeviantArt actually read the disclaimer? If they have, I don't see why any serious artist in their right mind would join. From what I read (It may have changed since then.) when I thought about joining, apparently the owners of the website have put in a little clause saying that they have full ownership rights of any art posted on their website, meaning they can alter, distribute or do whatever the hell they want with any art on the site without legal reprocussion. I don't think many people saw this, or I doubt the site would be as popular as it is.

Edit- Yeah it hasn't changed. Read the fine print:

DeviantArt Website wrote:The following is a brief overview (in plain English) of the terms and conditions under which submissions to deviantART.com will be accepted. In general, by submitting photographic, artistic, computer-generated and/or other materials (audio, visual, audiovisual and otherwise) to us and agreeing to the terms and conditions set forth below, you are giving us the nonexclusive right (i.e., you can grant similar rights to others at any time) to use those materials on and as part of our websites (e.g., to include your materials in our database which we make freely available over the World Wide Web). You are also representing to us that, among other things, you have the right to allow us to so use the materials and are agreeing, among other things, to cover the costs of our defense if someone claims that we do not have the right to so use the materials (or that you do not have the right to allow us to so use the materials). Our right to use your materials in this manner will continue until you choose to remove your materials, or any of them, from our website, and notify us in writing that you want to terminate this agreement. You are agreeing that we are not responsible for your work while it is on our website, including protecting it from other people, and that we are not responsible for removing it from our website. This means that if someone else gets your materials from our website and starts selling posters featuring your materials that we are not responsible for this activity and that you will pursue that other person and not deviantART to stop such use of your materials. Despite the foregoing sentence, you are also agreeing that we can remove your materials, or any of them, from our website at any time or from time to time without notice to you and without reason. You are agreeing that we have the right to use your name and likeness on our websites solely in connection with the promotion and marketing of our business (e.g., we can refer to you as a member of deviantART.com) until you notify us that you wish to terminate this agreement and you have removed all of your materials from our website. In the event that we have sublicensed your materials to another website, it is your responsibility to have your materials removed from that website and you will not hold us responsible or liable if the other website refuses to remove your materials. We reserve the right to make changes to this agreement in the future, but any changes would not apply to you unless you accept those changed terms.

ZOMBIE USER 17345 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 17345** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:36 pm

Kat's right. ZeD is SOOOOO much safer. I went to join Deviant but stopped the moment I read that disclaimer of theirs. They're totally untrustworthy. If Deviant distributes your art, they can do so without your express permission, and they will not recall that art should you choose to remove your work from their site.

ZeD, on the other hand, will put your art on TV for free and won't try to stab you in the back.

Superlance · Post by **Superlance** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:46 pm

If I got concerned about someone taking my stuff, I would just put an encoded watermark on it; which would take care of the computer version of it; and for printed ones, I would put my name on a place on the pic that would ruin it if you took it out.

Not that that would really work that well, but it might help a little.

But I'm not concerned about someone stealing my stuff, anyway.
Who would want it?

KittyKatBlack · Post by **KittyKatBlack** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:49 pm

I know, but still, it's not very nice of them to do. Besides, what if they do something with your art you don't approve of? Like sell it to an advertising company or something. They could crop the image or whatever. You may not think your art is worth stealing, but someone else might. I just think it's a very shameful thing to try and pull over on people. Especially since a lot of these people are very dedicated to their work, and are unwillingly giving it up to a bunch of strangers...

ZOMBIE USER 17345 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 17345** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:26 pm

I know I may get shot for this, but:
Since there is now a DeviantArt Issues thread, let's say you two write your replies there and allow RPin his card thread.
viewtopic.php?t=55518

KittyKatBlack · Post by **KittyKatBlack** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:27 pm

I already have.

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:12 am

KeenCaptors it it, then. Alright, everyone who already submitted is going to receive in the next few days their wallpapers with the corrected logo.

YarpsDat · Post by **YarpsDat** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:32 am

My picture shoul be ready this evening, the whole moderating caught me off guard...

Say, would you like this thread sticky?

Jops · Post by **Jops** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:58 am

RPin, is it possible to center my card more on the bottle (just moving the pic a bit on the left. Being "The Thirsty" i think the bottle shouldn't be partially cut off.
I may re-do the pic if you need it.

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:59 am

Hey, if that won't be too much of a trouble, I would like, yes.

Also, I'm planning to take care of KeenLace this year. Does anyone dislike the idea?

[EDIT] Jops: Yeah, since I'm doing everything again, that won't be a problem. But your character will be cropped in the left.

Jops · Post by **Jops** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:19 am

RPin wrote:[EDIT] Jops: Yeah, since I'm doing everything again, that won't be a problem. But your character will be cropped in the left.

If you crop a bit of her arm that won't be a problem. Besides the bottle doen't have to be in the middle, just be shown fully.

EMH · Post by **EMH** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:24 am

RPin wrote:Hey, if that won't be too much of a trouble, I would like, yes.

aaand, it's a sticky!
I had to log in into my moderating account.

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:23 am

Thank you very much!

But why didn't you want to use your normal account?

Yeah, and I ask David Stripe to PM me with his email adress.

Except for him and Jops, everyone should be receiving your new wallpapers. If not, let me know.

Phalanx · Post by **Phalanx** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:51 pm

Hmm... I might do one if I find the time.

I can have more than one character on the card, right? Since Keffria did a pair as well?

And lets see... mine will be called...

...erm... no prizes for guessing what mine will be called.

RPin · Post by **RPin** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:03 pm

Please do! You, Mr. Bob and Yarps, I demand thy!

And I'm thinking about doing one for Kisai. Any ideas of card names?

Brockway · Post by **Brockway** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:15 pm

I'll do one too. Guess I have till the 20th of Feb? Aughta be done well before then.

Phalanx · Post by **Phalanx** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:16 pm

RPin wrote:Please do! You, Mr. Bob and Yarps, I demand thy!

And I'm thinking about doing one for Kisai. Any ideas of card names?

Easy!

The Catgirl-Admin!

YarpsDat · Post by **YarpsDat** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:01 pm

RPin wrote:Please do! You, Mr. Bob and Yarps, I demand thy!

And I'm thinking about doing one for Kisai. Any ideas of card names?

I'm working, I'm working!
My first idea just didn't want to look right, so I had to start over, grrr...., but fear not, I will have something soon.

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