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David7410 · Post by **David7410** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 5:24 pm

Anywayz, I'm pretty much a one man show. I do all the comics and try to come up with a clever joke everyday. It's hard to come up with a good new strip everyday. So if ANYONE that likes my work wants to be part of the team and help me come up with ideas and crap... please email me at david7410@yahoo.com. I'd love to keep the daily updates thing going on, but I don't think I can for much longer by myself.

ZOMBIE USER 7833 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 7833** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 6:42 pm

I'm gonna bring up Penny Arcade. Don't get mad at me for it.

PA doesn't update daily, and they have 2 guys working on punchlines and such. You might want to slow down the update schedule, as it seems to be kinda spontaneous. Maybe slow it down to 3 or 4 a week, would be much easier than daily, and if you feel like it, even spend more time working on improving your art. Not saying you should change the style, but all art can always use improvement, this goes for every comic out there (especially mine).

You *will* always be associated with Penny Arcade, however, regardless of how coincidental it is. The styles are far too similar, and PA is much more well known and has been going longer to boot. I'd recommend just not getting offended by it. It's not a bad thing, I wouldn't have the foggiest notion how to immitate that style. The strips do have their funny moments, though. Keep up the good work.

Psiogen · Post by **Psiogen** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 9:06 pm

A half-baked parable:

There was a boy, and he somehow grew up without ever hearing the "Why did the chicken cross the road?" joke. Then one day, he thought of a hilarious new joke!
"Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get to the other side!"
And he started telling his joke to every person he met, and he could never understand why people didn't like his jokes very much.

And then, one day, a man explained to him that everyone already knew that joke, and they all assumed that the boy did too. They thought the boy was just a fool. The man advised the boy to stop telling his chicken joke, and instead look for more original jokes to tell. But the boy argued with the man, because he had made up the joke all by himself, before he ever heard anyone else tell it. And so he kept telling his joke to everyone he met, and eventually, he died a lonely death.

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[ This Message was edited by: Psiogen on 2002-03-18 21:37 ]

David7410 · Post by **David7410** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 9:11 pm

Psiogen... sorry but you aren't making any sense.

Psiogen · Post by **Psiogen** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 9:41 pm

On 2002-03-18 21:11, david7410 wrote:
Psiogen... sorry but you aren't making any sense.

Care to clarify that statement? I think that what I said makes perfect sense.
Of course, I was under the impression that what you wanted was my honest opinion. It turns out you were just looking for praise. Here, have some. It's free!
"Wow, ha ha, you comic funny! lolol!!!!!"
There, I have 'corrected' my opinion to your specifications. Feeling better now?

David7410 · Post by **David7410** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 10:07 pm

WTF are you talking about? The only thing I've been saying is that this is my own drawing style, no matter how much you think it looks like PA. And I never asked you to like my comic, so please take your flames else where. I'm getting sick of you.

Psiogen · Post by **Psiogen** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 11:25 pm

All I'm saying is, whatever you may think, and whatever the actual history behind your style of drawing, it does make your comic look like a ripoff of PA. If you're happy to live with that stigma, fine, but realize that it is a stigma, and it will turn off some of your potential readers.

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David7410 · Post by **David7410** » Mon Mar 18, 2002 11:30 pm

I don't see why that would turn anyone off. But to each their own I suppose.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 2:02 am

Well, all people on forum represent readership in some way. For one Sylvan who posts that "chicken" metaphore, there is 100 "Sylvans" - potential readers who will dislike your comic for the same reason. Gotta count that.

Srdjan
http://mcduffies.keenspace.com

Ashess · Post by **Ashess** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 2:27 am

..okay. I guess I kinda liked it. it's pretty funny, if sometimes a little predictable. I'd like your artwork to become a little looser though. and don't be so damned lazy! if someone grimaces, or lifts his arm, his whole torso angle should change, if just a little. it's too obvious you're just pasting the old picture in and changing some detail. still, it's an entertaining read. 7

Ashess · Post by **Ashess** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 2:28 am

ps. the one on gadget is great.

ZOMBIE USER 7833 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 7833** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 11:03 am

Ah, one thing that nobody's addressed. A large portion of your comics seem to have big blank spaces, like it'll be set up for a 6 panel design, and you'll only have 5 panels. When that happens, you have a nasty habbit of just leaving a big giant black nothing sitting right there where the panel would go, instead of moving around your panels. This gives the impression of poor planning, as if you got to the 5th panel and though "oh, well, here's the punchline, guess I better stop" and everyone still has to load the nothing ness. If at all possible, you might try to either expand the last panel to take up extra space or just confine yourself to a set number of panels, and try to work within that. It's much more challenging that way, but by no means neccessary.

All I'm saying is the big black gaps got on my nerves...

David7410 · Post by **David7410** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 11:58 am

You are suggesting that I change the entire context of the comic just to make the frames line up evenly? And as far as loading... they are all gifs, so loading that 20k worth of nothing ness shouldn't be a problem.

SpareChange · Post by **SpareChange** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 12:56 pm

It's not a bad comic. Not being a PA fan, I had to go to that site to check if tthe styles really are similar...

It is similar, but I could also easily say both comics are similar in style to <a href="http://www.mtv.com/onair/daria/">Daria</a> by the thick lines around the characters. Doesn't mean that they're rip-offs of Daria, does it?

Some of the comics were good. I liked the Inspector Gadget one, for instance. But for "American Pie II", I'd do just as well to watch American Pie.

If I watched more movies than I do, I'd probably check on the site every so often. But unfortunately time doesn't permit that, so some of the pop culture references blow past me.

I can't see people saying they wouldn't read it just because there are similarities to other comics tho. You could miss a jewel.

David7410 · Post by **David7410** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 2:18 pm

Thank you SpareChange

ZOMBIE USER 7833 · Post by **ZOMBIE USER 7833** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 2:52 pm

You don't have to change the context of the comic, you can just make a frame larger. Or at least plan ahead so that they do line up in one way or another, it's called good planning. Heck, you could even make the lines thicker on the bottom (space out the frame) so that the black chunk is less noticable, I'm simply saying that it makes the comic look somewhat unprofessional. Am I a professional? Nopers. Are you? I'd wager not, but I still wish you could take slightly negative criticism without getting offended. It's annoying when someone asks for advice and then refuses to listen when you give it to them.

McDuffies · Post by **McDuffies** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 3:29 pm

For solving big space problem, I would suggest next:
Simply move your last two panels in the middle, and divide empty space in half. You'd get symetry and specific empty space arrangement that I myself like to use.
Or you don't have to. There's something estetic in leaving 6th panel empty, but of course you'd have to change a few things so that it looks more like a part of a comic panel

Srdjan
http://mcduffies.keenspace.com

David7410 · Post by **David7410** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 3:52 pm

JasterW, that suggestion didn't offend me. I am considering what you said. I was just asking you a question. I never said it was a stupid idea. Why assume it offended me? Man that's a lot of short statements.

Smack · Post by **Smack** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 5:47 pm

Wow, david, how many hits did this topic get you?

David7410 · Post by **David7410** » Tue Mar 19, 2002 6:17 pm

a lot