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Heyla gang. My friend Steve Anderson (of Reel Advice fame) has been pestering me to ask around and see if anyone would be interested in drawing a webcomic for a science fiction story he's written. The basic story is about some bounty hunters (one of whom is a human/canine cross) in an anti-grav yacht, collecting on bounties and fighting off other bounty hunters. Though the story does grow from there.

Any interested artists can contact Steve through my forum (you don't need an account to post on the forum), or here in this thread. Thanks. :)
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Sorry, but I'm already doing a bounty hunter cyberpunkish science fiction comic with a half-furry cast member.

I'm not kidding.

I'm going to plug in the standard answer to this sort of thread and say that you're probably better off drawing the thing yourself. It's much more fulfilling that way, artists can be unreliable, and no one is going to care about your comic as much as you do. That, and most of the artists here would rather put their time and effort into a story they create. If you really want an artist, try deviantArt.
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THOU SHALT NOT ASK FOR ARTIST WITHOUT EXAMPLES OF THE SCRIPT.
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*laughter* After having seen the first attempt that Steve did at drawing a comic... no, he's not better off drawing it himself.

And me... I've not enough time to do it. Not with college and review writing.
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Joel Fagin wrote:Not many people have much luck with this sort of thing, unfortunately. Drawing is harder and more involved work than writing and anyone who signs on will be doing a lot of work for an untried and untested author whom they don't know. Even if you are a good writer, they don't know you or how you work. They, in short, don't know how well they'll work with you or you with them.

It's a huge leap of faith. It does happen and it is worth trying but don't be surprised if nothing comes of it. Here is certainly not a good place as we all have our own comics.

It is also, incidently, not that hard to learn how to draw. Many, many comics, if you look at them at the beginning, have anything from bad to abyssmal artwork. College Roomies From Hell, which is very popular, started out with very crude scrawls indeed.

Best of luck, though.

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ShineDog wrote:THOU SHALT NOT ASK FOR ARTIST WITHOUT EXAMPLES OF THE SCRIPT.


Ugh, I'm agreeing with Shinedog


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OCAD forums had a subforum called the hiring hall or something to that nature. We could use one here.
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Taiwanimation wrote:OCAD forums had a subforum called the hiring hall or something to that nature. We could use one here.
Up until recently, we never had many request threads. I think that just because of the nature of the community, where nearly all artists have their own projects, a separate forum would go mostly unnoticed.
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Killbert-Robby wrote:
ShineDog wrote:THOU SHALT NOT ASK FOR ARTIST WITHOUT EXAMPLES OF THE SCRIPT.


Ugh, I'm agreeing with Shinedog


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Exactly. Giving a premise is barely a piece of anything. To get interest, people need to see how good the writing is.
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We could use a sticky of "apply here if you need artist" sort.
But with a fair warning that people rarely find artists here.

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I could do something like that, just don't know where it would go. My first thought was TT&T, but it's not trafficked all that much, is it? Other than that, it'd have to be GD and you know how much I dislike mostly pointless stickies in here :P.
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Amazing. I don't even have to do any work in these threads any more. Image

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Being that there are already a few of such threads on main page every time, I think having one sticky instead would be improvement.
It would definitely be more appropriate thread for TTT or Comics and crossovers, but I don't know how many people check those sections beforehand. We would achieve little, we'd only have to post a link to that thread instead of Joel's quote in every thread.
I mean, I don't want to underestimate anyone, but it's a fact that 51% of people just drop in the forum thinking "it can't hurt", drop the request anywhere and go looking on other places.

There is other suggestion: to proclaim "Dropdowns and crossovers" a section where people can officially ask for an artist. The thing is, you'd add something like "and for requests for artists and writers" or something like that in description so that it'd be pretty much obvious where to go.
The entire Crossovers doesn't have to be dedicated to this, one sticky would, perhaps, be enough. My opinion is that it would be actually more helpful if all such requests went in one thread that had good-phrased rules for posting a request on the beginning... then someone looking for collaborator would have to check one thread instead of several of them.
This is, of course, if Phact and Pillywiggin think it'd be all right. I find "Crossovers" the most appropriate forum for such task being that it's the forum dedicated to collaborations in the first place.

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Post by Mercury Hat »

I think it was Cookie who also suggested adapting DD&C for this, but I'm liking the single sticky idea. It'd either go in TT&T or GD, but I think in terms of traffic and frequency of such threads, it would make the most sense to go here.
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From Steve (aka Blacknarwhal): "There is no script. Frankly, I'm staying relatively hands off on this because I draw like a cat with a pen in its mouth. You know more about visual art than I do. I don't play in your pond, and you don't fuck around in mine. There are some specific descriptions that I'll expect you to stick to, but past that, you are the artist, and I don't ask a whole lot of questions."

Basically if a scene has background he'd explain it ahead of time. He's written out the entire story in fact.

Here's a snippet of the story as an example:

One hour and fifty-seven minutes later, the Revenant was back over the Pacific
Ocean, dodging missiles fired from helicopters near the South China Sea.

“SHIT!” Fesla screeched as the wooden yacht’s stern was raised over its bow by
the force of a Hellfire explosion hitting water. “I thought we had two hours!”

“Maybe we shouldn’t have stopped to cash out!” Whally roared in reply, jerking
the controls in an attempt at evasive maneuvers.

“Shouldn’t have mattered, boy!” Ripper Bill snarled. “Still another three
minutes left and they’re shooting anyway! They called your bluff!”

“A bluff? A BLUFF? You mean that wasn’t a bomb on his desk?!” Fesla howled.

Another explosion rocked them from the port side, causing them to list to
starboard.

“Of COURSE it wasn’t! Like we could afford a short-range plasma bomb! It was
an alarm clock with some wires and alligator clips attached!”

“Whally, you fucking moron! How did you think you could get away with bluffing
the head of New Vegas - Thailand? How did you think you could bluff him with a
damn ALARM CLOCK??”

“Yeah, yeah, yell at me if we get out of this alive.” Whally whipped his head
around and called back to Ripper Bill. “Hey Bill, you want to go topside and
buy us some breathing room with that lase?”

Ripper Bill nodded grimly and went to the top deck of the Revenant to fire on
the attack helicopters. Beams of ruby-hued coherent light lanced out from the
lase’s iris, slamming into missiles as soon as they launched. The missiles
exploded in mid-flight. Ripper Bill was having trouble keeping up—the missiles
launched too fast and numerous to track. Gritting his teeth and resigning
himself to the necessity of the solution, he began to fire on the helicopters
themselves. A quick shot clipped a rotor, causing the helicopter to destabilize
and spin downward out of control to splash down in the South China Sea.

In furious response for their fallen comrade, the remaining helicopters fired
off their missiles in one great clot. Ripper Bill’s eyes flew open, expanding
to their maximum width at the missile swarm pouring down on him. He hefted the
lase and fired as rapidly as he could, but the missiles were far too many to
keep up with.

“Boy, you’d better get some speed out of this crate!” Ripper Bill shouted into
the ship beneath his feet. “I can’t shoot down all these missiles coming at
us!”
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Post by ShineDog »

okies, this is a story, not a script, and as such, is a complete pain in the arse to derive a comic from.


first of all, id say a lot of this is probably too verbose for a comic, when you write for a comic, you really have to think in terms of... well. comics. - snappy dialogue, dramatic shots. stuffe. this is written as a written work, and that rarely translates well.

there NEEDS to be a proper script. preferably with descriptions of exactly what the writer wants in each panel, otherwise you get divergance and the writer having to design things that are, in written fiction, left to the imagination.

You cant be hands off on your own project.

go read some real comic scripts, they are all over the internet if you look.


http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~afarrell/things/script.html - heres one? let him see this if hes serious.


http://www.writing-world.com/freelance/comics.shtml - and a guide, show him this.

these arent, of course, hard and fast rules, but a piece of fiction like that isnt going to help man nor beast.

and get him to post here, if hes serious.
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Ye know, the shadow of Megatokyo should forever haunt those who ask for artists for their own projects.

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Well, it's still an example of the guy's writing. That's the main point to this.

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