BloodKnight wrote:And you berate Alpha Shade for buying advertising, but it works, and if you want to get popular that badly, maybe you should do the same.
How am I berating something when simply mentioning that they advertise a lot?
BloodKnight wrote:The point is...you are putting comics that either were already nominated last year or won an award already. For an award program, this literally makes no god damn sense.
2004 - best artwork award goes to MacHall
2005 - Machall is nominated for best artwork *again*
Honestly if they wanted to make it fair, they would have compiled a list of sites eligable for each of the categories. A lot of work I'm sure, but then the lesser known comics would have gotten a fair shake at a nomination because voters would have gone out and looked at the sites they never heard of before making nominations... They also should have allowed up to 7 or even 10 nominations per category. This helps eliminate ties and again gives lesser known comics a fair shake
the "Open Field" excuse just sounds like laziness...
So Iguess it boils down to, do they want the CCA Award to actually mean something? or is it just another "Joe Schmoe's Cool Comic Award (hosted by geocities)"
in case it didn't occur to you PEOPLE DON"T TEND TO ENTER CONTESTS THEY KNOW THEY CAN"T WIN.
so what you're saying is you don't expect to win because you don't whore your comic enough...
well seeing as you've been involved with this awhile, and apparently you've seen no change, and apparently no one here willing to really make changes but they'll ask for your suggestions...and then promptly ignore them
William G wrote:Of course, I got a problem with the Powerpuff Girls Doujinshi being up there. It's like giving a literary award to a Harry Potter fanfic.
So, yes, the TV show analogy is much more appropriate than comparing it to movies. Thinking that Penny Arcade is "completed" because it won an award is kind of rediculous.
BloodKnight wrote:Webcomics have no such filter. They are literally thousands of webcomics, even though the majority of them are shit, but there is no hoops for them.
BloodKnight wrote:So, yes, the TV show analogy is much more appropriate than comparing it to movies. Thinking that Penny Arcade is "completed" because it won an award is kind of rediculous.
TV shows get canned all the time before the first few episodes. There is a filter they have to go through.
Webcomics have no such filter. They are literally thousands of webcomics, even though the majority of them are shit, but there is no hoops for them.
So treating webcomic awards like they were a continous TV isn't the right way to go. While a TV show has maybe a dozen or so competitors, webcomics have thousands.
Xuanwu wrote:1. Don't make past winners ineligible to be nominated, but set the bar higher. For example, let's say Mac Hall wins Best Art this year. So, next year, set a number of minimum nominations needed to qualify as a nominee, but make that number higher for Mac Hall (a handicap). This still measures comic popularity and allows past winners to succeed, but the handicap means they have to be even better than last year to win. This is similar to the winner of the Super Bowl facing a tougher roster of teams the following year than those who lost in the playoffs.
Xuanwu wrote:2. Set tiers of awards based on readership. So comics with readership above 100,000, like Venus Envy, would compete in one tier, while those under 10,000, like Tsunami Channel, would be in another. The difficulty here is logistics since different comics update on different schedules. So how do you measure the readers? Monthly average of unique hits might do.
Xuanwu wrote:3. Allow comics to submit written summaries and sample art in profile pages hosted by the CCA. Comics interested in winning the CCA could advertise on the site, getting their name out there so people becoming aware. Thus, even if they don't win or aren't nominated, CCA would play a role in increasing readership of good comics that may otherwise slip between the cracks.
Xuanwu wrote:4. Start a new contest! This contest could be exclusively for smaller comics, with commonly popular comics (like some of the above mentioned) barred from nomination. Run both of them at the same time. That way the spirit of the original CCA stays intact and smaller comics now have their own competition to get their existence spread so they can eventually earn enough word of mouth to compete on the big scale.
Zortic wrote:I guess the problem is that I don't really see the problem.
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