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Postby Lordgeejay on Thu Jan 10, 2002 6:01 am

Hey Watchman!<P>Yeah. That crow will give me a hard time. And this isn't the last time it will appear. Ugh. The size of the crow in the latest episode wasn't pretty consistent between panel 3 and 4. O well.<P>As for Sarren, yeah, he is turning up that bad-guy charm. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>The bad news for me is that the crow is there again on the next page. Sigh. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
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Postby Watchman on Thu Jan 10, 2002 10:58 am

That's one *evil* familiar then...not only a pain to draw, but invites itself to every page. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">
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Postby Watchman on Thu Jan 10, 2002 12:54 pm

You know Geejay, I think that crow is going to give you a bigger dose of PAIN than the doctor ordered every time you want to include it... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"><P>It's definitely gotten better since the last incarnation, though - you still need to practice on the tail and the size (crows are pretty big), but nothing major. The red eyes *do* give off a nice sinister effect.<P>And Sarren looks pretty darn cool. I wonder if that's one of the perks of being a bad guy... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
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Postby Gillikin on Sat Jan 12, 2002 12:06 pm

You could always call it a blackbird! It's about the size of the blackbirds that live outside of my house. They're the kind whose feathers shine green and pink in the sun. I'm rambling, aren't I? I think I need sleep... Night, Geej!
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Postby Watchman on Mon Jan 14, 2002 1:09 am

Might be that we're thinking of different birds now (as Yours Truly only speaks English as his fourth language and has a hard time with bird names anyway), but aren't blackbirds the orange-beaked birdies you can see hopping around the lawn chasing bugs ?<P>They're couldn't look half as sinister as crows can to save their lives...<P>[This message has been edited by Watchman (edited 01-14-2002).]<p>[This message has been edited by Watchman (edited 01-14-2002).]
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Postby Lordgeejay on Mon Jan 14, 2002 7:37 am

Hi guys.<P>You know what is more difficult than drawing a crow perched on something? Drawing a crow in flight... from a worm's eye angle view. Ugh! Anyway, I'm sticking with Runean as being a crow. Just swallow that for now until I get better at drawing it. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"><P>------------------
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Postby Watchman on Tue Jan 15, 2002 1:08 am

Well you *could* always try to make a jackdaw out of it...all that is needed is a total beak overhaul, different color scheme and body shape, and smaller size.
Easy, yes ? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/tongue.gif"><P>Incidentally, didn't familiars have a telepathic link to their masters ? Not that I had anything against taking the Bush-stupid D&D rules and bending them until they scream, mind you.<p>[This message has been edited by Watchman (edited 01-15-2002).]
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Postby Highlander on Tue Jan 15, 2002 1:19 am

My last Char for D&D, Drow Sorceror, Had a Raven as a Familier.. <P>------------------
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Postby Lordgeejay on Tue Jan 15, 2002 7:27 am

Hi guys!<P>Yes, Runean (the bird) and Sarren do have telepathic linking but I need to visually show that Runean is telling Sarren something here. I made it my convention that the familiar actually talks to its master but nobody else hears the "talking" going on. So in a way, it is a form of telepathy. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"><P><P>------------------
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Postby Watchman on Tue Jan 15, 2002 11:43 am

Personally I'd go with the thought-bubbles-with-weird-outlines-dialogue approach, but that's just me. And besides, villains are <I>supposed</I> to hold monologues while looking cool, no ? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
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Postby Watchman on Tue Jan 15, 2002 11:47 am

Incidentally I'd figure a Drow having a bat or similar as a familiar instead of a raven. I can't imagine even owls doing too well in the pitch-black Underdark, and a bat makes a *nice* scout.
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Postby Rahn on Tue Jan 15, 2002 12:32 pm

Sure familars have the telepathic link to their masters and whatnot. Though what information is passed through this link is another matter altogether.<P>Some telepathic links are more intimate than others, and really I wouldn't place crows very high on list of sharing your deepest secrets and feelings with. The chances that they would care, let along really understand are slim to none.<P>It's really all left to the imagination.
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Postby Highlander on Wed Jan 16, 2002 1:41 am

well Normaly i would agree with you, as bats are great for the dark, but, my drow doesn't adventure in the underdark, and besides Ravens are cooler =) <P>------------------
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Postby Lordgeejay on Wed Jan 16, 2002 2:40 am

Hmm... I'll have a think on that word balloon suggestion. And as for bats as familiar, I would also prefer a bird over a bat. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"><P>------------------
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Postby Watchman on Wed Jan 16, 2002 11:00 am

Matters of taste aside, consider the following:
- drow are by default born and bred in Underdark, since the surface is in several ways rather hostile to them
- dismissing your old familiar has the same effect on your almighty Exp score as it getting killed
- almost everything down there sees without light; almost no familiar does<P>Ergo, of all the animals listed (in the rather limited PHB, anyway) a bat would be the *only* real choice for a drow, as the others would be nigh useless and wont to get eaten by the next critter that happens to wander by.
Unless you postpone creating the little critter to after you got to the surface, but that's not something most of them plan to do early on - and even then, since drow have certain "issues" with sunlight, a familiar with nightvision would be a must.<P>Plus <I>Fliedermaus</I> are *cute*. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">
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Postby Highlander on Thu Jan 17, 2002 1:23 am

well, i myself have grown quite attached to that raven, and i must admit that it is not, my creation, She was given to him, and is controlled, via a Pendent that he wears, but yes all rules to familiers are inacted and and yes i would, be in trouble having her die. <P>buts here a cool question.....If Drizzt Do'urden was in modern times, what Guns would he use, or would he use guns ? =) <P>------------------
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Postby Watchman on Fri Jan 18, 2002 1:12 am

Urgh. Please don't mention Drizzizzit again, I'm allergic to Salvatore. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/mad.gif"><P>But as it goes, I'd imagine him going for a pair of silenced .45 semiautos, prolly with lasersights. Jolly old Artemis certainly would, anyway.
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Postby K_Kuros on Mon Jan 21, 2002 10:58 am

Ah, familiars. Reminds me of the only mage I ever had who had a familiar. A cat-man(about a foot tall I think). He was spoiled, even had a custom made backpack where there was a spot for him to curl up in. He was something else. And he caused me a load of trouble as well. Oh boy did he cause trouble. Advice to any GMs out there, familiars think, and thus familiars can get into trouble. Familiars get into trouble, wizards come running to save them. Yes, cruel, I know.<P>As to the issue of the crow, hey, they are considered in terms of mythology to be "dark" creatures, so its a fitting choice for our dear mister bad boy mage. His choice of clothing only seems to make him seem more sinister, dont know why, but it just feels that way to me.<P>Animals are never easy to draw, especially doing them consistently anyway. Geejay! Keep up the good work!<P>
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Postby Lordgeejay on Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:14 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by K_Kuros:
<B>Advice to any GMs out there, familiars think, and thus familiars can get into trouble. Familiars get into trouble, wizards come running to save them. Yes, cruel, I know.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hehehe. Great idea! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> I'll be sure to remember that when I DM again one of these days. Heck, I may even use it in the comic. Thanks for the idea.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
As to the issue of the crow, hey, they are considered in terms of mythology to be "dark" creatures, so its a fitting choice for our dear mister bad boy mage. His choice of clothing only seems to make him seem more sinister, dont know why, but it just feels that way to me.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, in this case, it is his "school" uniform so he didn't had much of a choice in the white top shirt. They get to choose what they wear underneath it though. But he'll be out of uniform soon enough though.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Animals are never easy to draw, especially doing them consistently anyway. Geejay! Keep up the good work!
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Thanks. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> But of course, I really have to strive to make them appear as good as could. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P><P>------------------
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Postby Lordgeejay on Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:18 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Greek Amazon13:
<B>Anyway, that was pointless knowledge. I like crows. Did you know they can immitate human speech? Like parrots? (They're actually better at it than parrots.) Crows are really bright.
--Maureen </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I didn't know that! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> Now I do. And knowing is half the battle.<P>
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