I happen to like the strip shape over the panel. Not only is the strip shape easier to fit on the comics page, but offer the cartoonist more possibities.
I also liked your gag, and you are the first person I've seen to use the word surely since the movie "Airplane".
Does size matter?
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by Wimpystuntmen on Sat Jun 09, 2001 1:58 am
Yeah I like the strip shape better too. Most of the things I've written seem to fit the panel shape better but I can generally make them fit into a strip. I find it also seems to make my average art look okay on the page.
Panels to me are a bit like a painting - requiring quality artwork, if its ugly you really notice it. Strips on the other hand seem to be able to get away with lesser quality artwork (this of course is a big generalization as we both know there's some brilliant strip art). I just think if you can't draw but you want to write and draw your comic, make it a strip.<P>The word "surely" isn't used enough. It sounds British to me. We should use it more.<P>Oh well, better go check out the adventures of Telly and Speed.
Panels to me are a bit like a painting - requiring quality artwork, if its ugly you really notice it. Strips on the other hand seem to be able to get away with lesser quality artwork (this of course is a big generalization as we both know there's some brilliant strip art). I just think if you can't draw but you want to write and draw your comic, make it a strip.<P>The word "surely" isn't used enough. It sounds British to me. We should use it more.<P>Oh well, better go check out the adventures of Telly and Speed.
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by Wimpystuntmen on Sat Jun 16, 2001 7:00 am
Yeah good one Mike.
But tell me, do you agree that my art seems to look better is strip format? It's still the same ugly art but just in a different shape and somehow it looks better.<P>
But tell me, do you agree that my art seems to look better is strip format? It's still the same ugly art but just in a different shape and somehow it looks better.<P>
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by Yupyop on Sat Jun 16, 2001 10:41 am
I like your work more in the strip form. It allows you to expand your settings. Friday's gag would look too crowded as a panel. But you should remember to hide your punchline at the far right. The second kid's eyeball comment is wasted because we've all ready read Mom's punchline. How about this?
Panel One:
Young Dinosaur making a mess in store aisle.
YD: Mom, I want some chocolate hands!
Panel Two:
Widen angle. YD in action drawing the reader's attention.
YD: No! I want candy eyeballs!
Mom is at the far right. She is moving towards our left. She looks heavenly and mutters to herself the punchline.<P>I remain surprised by how well your settings are drawn. How To books may help you with the basics of character design so then you can develop your own cartoonist's talent.
Panel One:
Young Dinosaur making a mess in store aisle.
YD: Mom, I want some chocolate hands!
Panel Two:
Widen angle. YD in action drawing the reader's attention.
YD: No! I want candy eyeballs!
Mom is at the far right. She is moving towards our left. She looks heavenly and mutters to herself the punchline.<P>I remain surprised by how well your settings are drawn. How To books may help you with the basics of character design so then you can develop your own cartoonist's talent.
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by Wimpystuntmen on Mon Jun 18, 2001 9:49 am
Thanks Mike for your feedback.
I used to be very minimalist (also read as lazy) and put in an image purely so I could call it a cartoon. <P>I've since discovered people look at the art as much as the writing - and the good thing is "I" now see the art as very important when in the past I would just say "the gag's funny when you read it, who cares if the arts poor".<P>A couple weeks back I quickly drew up 3 gags that were never going to be anywhere but on a web-site (egg sex, Mary had a lamb, cat slippers). I compare these drawings to my first month of work where I put alot of effort into the art and there is no comparison. I'm even going to go back and pull out of the archives 2 drawings I put in that were neither particularly funny or drawn well. I think I put them in only to keep the whole Mon, Wed, Fri thing happening.<P>BTW today after I write this I'll mail off 15 cartoons to the New Breed and see how they go. I really want them to sell coz I want a new TV (Speed where are you?). I've spent the last week re-drawing some old gags and putting in some new. If they get rejected I'll be putting them on this site - which is good as I've been putting too much old stuff here lately. So lets hope I get back to the same quality of the first month.<P>Thanks for still hanging around. Toontalk has been very busy. Darn that CE forum for closing. I was hoping to do my end of the month critique on Telly.<P>Jeff
I used to be very minimalist (also read as lazy) and put in an image purely so I could call it a cartoon. <P>I've since discovered people look at the art as much as the writing - and the good thing is "I" now see the art as very important when in the past I would just say "the gag's funny when you read it, who cares if the arts poor".<P>A couple weeks back I quickly drew up 3 gags that were never going to be anywhere but on a web-site (egg sex, Mary had a lamb, cat slippers). I compare these drawings to my first month of work where I put alot of effort into the art and there is no comparison. I'm even going to go back and pull out of the archives 2 drawings I put in that were neither particularly funny or drawn well. I think I put them in only to keep the whole Mon, Wed, Fri thing happening.<P>BTW today after I write this I'll mail off 15 cartoons to the New Breed and see how they go. I really want them to sell coz I want a new TV (Speed where are you?). I've spent the last week re-drawing some old gags and putting in some new. If they get rejected I'll be putting them on this site - which is good as I've been putting too much old stuff here lately. So lets hope I get back to the same quality of the first month.<P>Thanks for still hanging around. Toontalk has been very busy. Darn that CE forum for closing. I was hoping to do my end of the month critique on Telly.<P>Jeff
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by Yupyop on Tue Jun 19, 2001 7:11 am
Good luck with New Breed!
If you seek revenge and wish to comment on "Telly", his email address is still available, <A HREF="http://www.Tellybymike@hotmail.com" TARGET=_blank>www.Tellybymike@hotmail.com</A>
If you seek revenge and wish to comment on "Telly", his email address is still available, <A HREF="http://www.Tellybymike@hotmail.com" TARGET=_blank>www.Tellybymike@hotmail.com</A>
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by Throbbin Johnny on Fri Jun 22, 2001 7:04 am
Ditto the CE closing thing...Johnny wanted to write "BrownEyed Jack" for your viewing pleasures. Maybe over at ToonTalk?? This toon will happen. Johnny has some wicked ideas. <P>The whole point of writing the gag without showing the art is great, Mike! It could be fun to explore this more. Maybe we CE Refugees
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by Yupyop on Sat Jun 23, 2001 2:12 am
Johnny if you post a strip over at ToonTalk I will start "Telly" again. My problem with doing this at TT is chicken hearted artists. Last I looked no one has posted art to Dawn's idea. But I know everyone wants to see your work. So if you post I'll be there.
BTW, "Telly" lives. I'm playing with the idea of making it a fiction novel. Only a severe case of procrastination and a lack of typing paper prevents me from working on it right now <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
BTW, "Telly" lives. I'm playing with the idea of making it a fiction novel. Only a severe case of procrastination and a lack of typing paper prevents me from working on it right now <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
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