Contest!

Contest!

Postby Bluecanary on Mon Sep 09, 2002 9:00 pm

ok, i assume that everyone has seen the comic for 9-5-02.
in it, Odile uses a spell in Latin.
first person who can translate it into english and pig-latin wins a commissioned color sketch from me.
no hentai or smut requests, ok? :-?
not that i think you guys will ask for that, but just in case.

Rules:
1.) it's the first translation that is the closest to the rhyme i composed in english and gave to Jo for translation.
2.) the english translation must rhyme.
3.) the pig-latin doesn't have to rhyme. that would be pointless since everything ends in "-ay."
4.) you must have a translation in both english and pig-latin! no exceptions.
5.) one entry per person and no going back to tweak your rhymes! you may correct spelling mistakes but that's it.

Contest deadline is 9-26-02!

Jo, will be our honorable judge and decide the winner.

there are lots of websites and programs that translate lanquages. i suggest for those of you who are not studing latin to try there.

the words are:
"Mala vetusa nocte occultantur
in viso meo apparebunt."
there are horizontal lines above some of the letters, the "o" in "viso" and "meo," and the "a" and "e" in "apparebunt."

good luck and have fun! :D

Again, thanks to jo for the Latin translation and agreeing to judge the contest. :D
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Postby JTPokie on Tue Sep 10, 2002 5:06 am

Hey Ryn....


Ancient evil hidden in the night, appear before my sight!

Ancientay evilay iddenhay inay ethay ightnay, appearay eforebay ymay ightsay!


Am I at least close?

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Postby Lord Jobe on Wed Sep 11, 2002 5:53 am

"Mala vetusa nocte occultantur in visō meō āpparēbunt."

Direct Translation: "Forbid they are hidden by the bad night in my by the vision they will appear"

Better Translation: "Forbidden evil hidden by the night, appear to me in my sight."

Pig Latin: "Orbiddenfay evilway iddenhay ybay ethay ightnay, appearway otay emay inway ymay ightsay."

Latin Translator program: http://www.quicklatin.com/
English to Pig Latin Translator: http://www.snowcrest.net/donnelly/piglatin.html

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latin translation

Postby SmeefySnark on Wed Sep 11, 2002 6:25 pm

Ancient evil things being hidden by the night will appear in my sight.

Ancientay evilay ingsthay eingbay iddenhay ybay ethay ightnay illway appearay inay ymay ightsay.


edit: spelling! sorry! :wink:
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Postby Bluecanary on Wed Sep 11, 2002 7:33 pm

spelling edits are ok, as long as you don't try to tweak your rhyme. :wink:

btw-welcome to the forum, SmeefySnark!
good to have ya here. :D

lookin' good, guys!
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hi

Postby SmeefySnark on Sun Sep 15, 2002 12:08 pm

Hi. Thanks for the welcome. Nifty.

Yeah, I just typo-ed and spelled 'ancient' wrong.

'z all good, y'all. Bling bling, home skillet. 8)

Don't let me do that again, please. :-?

Those smiley graemlins are cool.
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Listen to the crickets...

Postby Lord Jobe on Thu Sep 19, 2002 5:50 am

Kat, I don't think you're gonna get anymore entries in this little contest.

I thought the deadline you set was a little...generous.

You might want to cut it short a few days.
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Postby SmeefySnark on Thu Sep 19, 2002 5:56 pm

Indeed. Translating Latin just ain't the rage anymore. What with the language being -dead- and all. *awaits the wrath of Latin teachers and doctors for saying such a thing* :wink:
Seriously, alive or no, non-physician-type-people don't tend to go out of their way to learn Latin. I know for a fact that the majority of the world is, actually, non-physician-type-people.
So you might want to shorten the deadline.
Unless you really like crickets.

*chirp*

*chirp*
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Postby Bluecanary on Mon Sep 23, 2002 12:32 pm

crickets.
yup, that's what this forums been sounding like. where is everybody? this is no time for lurking, but since i'm guilty of it too, i'll shut up. :D

ok, this is down to the wire!
contest ends this thursday!
after that, i'll be locking this thread and jo will announce the winner sometime in the next week.
in advance i want to thank all who particpated, and all those that didn't, but at least looked at the thread.
got any advice on how to improve this contest thing?
let me know.

now back to your regularly scheduled message board. :)
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Postby Lord Jobe on Mon Sep 23, 2002 7:14 pm

bluecanary wrote:got any advice on how to improve this contest thing?
let me know.


As I said privately, I think your wording of the rules did it in.
Since you said that the first person to get it right wins and the only three of us that actually responded seem to agree, most people probably think, "What's the use?"

Make it a raffle. Everyone that gets it right will have their names placed in a hat and that will determine the winner. Then just add two additional rules:
1. No one can win twice in a row (so if you win, you're not in the running in the next drawing).
2. Lord Jobe is always out of the running (If I want a pic from you, I'll pester you to draw one.).

How's that?
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WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

Postby Jo-chan on Thu Oct 03, 2002 11:39 am

congratulations!!

JTPokie had the translation closest to what I was looking for:

::Ancient evil, hidden by night, become visible to my sight::

All of the pig latin translations were, of course, perfect. ;)

YES, Latin is a dead language. YES, most of you got the main idea. Still, just the amount of effort it takes to <strike>click that mouse</strike> <ins>pick up a dictionary</ins> is worth a nice sketch and a pat on the back. :) Thanks to everyone who posted!!
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Postby Bluecanary on Thu Oct 03, 2002 1:42 pm

thank you, jo for judging! :D
i appreciate it.

ok, jtpokie, what do you want me to draw? :wink:
lemme know.

thanks again everyone for entering!
let me know if you have any suggestions on how to make this contest better.
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Postby SmeefySnark on Fri Oct 04, 2002 3:43 pm

I would just like to say that the tense you used on the latin word for "become visible" was future, not imperative, so the correct translation would be "will become", not "become" as a command. Also, the person you used on the latin word was third person, as in "they will become". Therefore, the correct translation would not be "ancient evil", which is singular, but rather "ancient evil things". You used "mala" which can be percieved as having a plural neuter ending, meaning you can translate as "evil things" rather than "evil" which would be a feminine singular ending. The noun has to match the verb, so the correct translation is "ancient evil things will become".
Also, "in viso meo" means "in my sight", which is ablative. It is NOT dative, which would be "to my sight".
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Hm....

Postby Jo-chan on Mon Oct 07, 2002 5:49 am

As hurredly as that translation was put together, I'm not surprised. Also I posted the original spell (in English) that Kit gave me off the top of my head (probably should have found the page she wrote it on, huh?) I may have remembered what Kit had me translate incorrectly. :-/

Lemme go back and check my notes... You were both so very close, it was really a matter of nit-picky details between your answers.

What do you think. Kit?
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Postby Bluecanary on Wed Oct 09, 2002 7:51 am

well, jo, you're the judge.
i don't want anyone to think favoritism or the like, that's why i asked you to judge. (that you're more familiar with latin than i am.)

i think i know where that scrap of paper with the words i originally gave you is...i can search for it tonight.

if it comes down to it, i can draw two sketches if you judge a tie.
*shrugs*

i wonder...
will all use of latin or any other lanquage produce threads about it's grammar usage? :wink:
knowing my grammar, it would! lol
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Latin and suchlike...

Postby Jo-chan on Wed Oct 09, 2002 8:20 am

Actually, the two entries (not including Lord Jobe's, of course) were very close -- the determining factor was the proximity to the original text that was translated. I didn't realize that I could pick two winners. :-?

In any case, let's call it a draw. Two sketches will be awarded in this contest. JTPokie and Smeefysnark, email Kathryn and make your requests.

Thanks for your participation, everyone.

Jo-Chan

P.S. Yes, I did. Yes, I meant to. ;)
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Postby Lord Jobe on Thu Oct 10, 2002 8:53 am

Out of sheer curiosity, how close was I, Jo?
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