The Right To Existence

RiotGear · Post by **RiotGear** » Fri Mar 01, 2002 1:58 pm

I've been thinking about Jack, and I think I've found one rule that can be used to model it slightly: The Right To Existence.

In Jack, there is only one inalienable right that you are guarenteed by God: The right to existence. No matter how you may die, you will live on in the afterlife, and if you die in the afterlife you will be resurrected.

However, there is a reason there is a Heaven and a Hell. Not everyone responds to the Right To Existence the same way. Most, upon realizing the truth, will throw their cares away and become better people, freed of their fear of failure and ultimate destruction. Others will abuse this right, commiting crimes that they would never have commited if they had feared punishment.

Those who would treat the Right to Existence with the respect it deserves wind up in Heaven.

Those who would abuse that right will be kept separate from those who would not so that they won't screw it up for the rest of us. They go to Hell.

Hell and Heaven, when it comes to physics, natural laws, and what not, are IDENTICAL. There are NO DIFFERENCES between them.

The only difference is the clientele.

And that's a big difference.

Does this sound reasonable?

Cypress · Post by **Cypress** » Fri Mar 01, 2002 2:04 pm

Sure, why not? Either way, in Heaven or Hell time is meaningless, so the law of physics must follow the same rules too.

Vazagi · Post by **Vazagi** » Fri Mar 01, 2002 2:09 pm

It does. Remember that Trixi And Tet build their heaven, and that Jack believes that it is the dammed ones that makes hell what it is. So it fits nicely with your theory.

Foddercat · Post by **Foddercat** » Fri Mar 01, 2002 2:15 pm

Hmmm. Can you wave that right? Or is it more like, you have the inevitability of existance, like it or not?

RiotGear · Post by **RiotGear** » Fri Mar 01, 2002 3:49 pm

I guess you could waive it - But i'm not sure if God would be willing to let you. Not my area of expertise.

Alfador · Post by **Alfador** » Sat Mar 02, 2002 12:27 am

It's like that old Chinese story. Let me see if I can tell it properly.

There once was a man who, in a dream, asked to see the difference between Heaven and Hell. He was taken to a window and told that he looked upon Hell. Within, he saw about a dozen people seated around a table. The table was heaped high with every kind of food imaginable. However, the people were fixed in their seats, which were three feet away from the table, and all they had to eat with were three-foot long chopsticks. So naturally, none of them could get food into their mouths. (No comments here about flipping food in the air and catching it; assume that wouldn't work for one reason or another) So in Hell, everyone was eternally starving and emaciated.

Then he was led to another window, that looked out on Heaven. And he saw about a dozen people seated around a table--in exactly the same situation. Yet in Heaven everyone was well fed and happy.

The riddle: Why?

The answer: In Heaven they fed each other.

Foddercat · Post by **Foddercat** » Sat Mar 02, 2002 1:13 am

I don't know. My idea of heaven isn't sitting in a chair feeding people with chop sticks. I mean, the only difference there is that one group is hungry, and the other group isn't. But both would be eternally boring!

Vazagi · Post by **Vazagi** » Sat Mar 02, 2002 2:31 am

I think that it is meant to be symbolic. As in, in hell each person is alone even though there are other people there, whereas in heaven they are united in peace/harmony/love/whatever....

Foddercat · Post by **Foddercat** » Sat Mar 02, 2002 2:41 am

I know, I was just being obtuse

Seriously though, you have to admit that the metaphor could have used a little work. I mean, three foot chop sticks? Why so complicated? How about, instead of twelve people, you have two, and instead of chairs, three foot chop sticks, and confinement, you have a hole. Now, in both places both people are in the hole. In heaven, one of them climbs on the other's shoulders to get out of the hole, then pulls the other one up, then BAM, they're in a nice place that anyone would want to be in. Meanwhile, the two in the, heh heh, hell hole (sorry) both want out of the hole, but neither one trusts the other enough to let him climb on his shoulders, cause they think the other guy'll just take off after, leaving him in the hole. So they stay in the hole, and never get to go to the nice place.

I think this idea does the same thing, without the weird, needlessly complicated imagery.

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Vazagi · Post by **Vazagi** » Sat Mar 02, 2002 2:52 am

Heh, it could use some work, but remember, it was an old riddle retold from memory.

Works either way for me...