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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2001 4:37 am
by Yawgmoth
Oooh I so hope they make him eat his own gun he deserves it. Screw forgiveness, Screw repentence Take your damn Medicine OVo bitch!!<P>Yes i know it's just a comic but so far this run has consistantly pissed me off hehe. LoL god i hate that shooter guy and all the people he represents who do the same thing.. And I have no sympathy for bryan either. I hope he's still being skewered and rended for all eternity.<P>Okay i'm done now.<P>Feel free to star and pity the foul creature of darkness that i am. o.o;<P>------------------
"From void evolved Phyrexia. Great Yawgmoth, Father of Machines, saw its perfection. Thus the Grand Evolution began."<P>"To know pain is to know Yawgmoth, to know Yawgmoth is to know pain."- Phyrexian saying.

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:17 am
by Nukinin
LOL..yawg, you are the epitome of the term outspoken. I don't have any sympathy for bryan or this guy either. I was a Police Officer; I've seen all types of terrible things. I dont believe certain people can be rehabilitated, as our watered down criminal justice seems to want to think. My very own father rots away in jail for 2 life sentences for robbing a bank and shooting an officer. Yet my stance does not change..
I dont judge.. but I'd want him to be punished, like criminals should be. I believe they are about to carry out his punishment. Regardless of their motives. I'd do it too.. but then I dont necessarily follow the jedeo-christian beliefs on after life and judgement. but thats a whole other conversation. Personally.. Jack already explained how our justice system would fail on him. Send him to judgement. NOW! Let his punishment begin.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 1:12 am
by Xyuu
Well fuck... Nevermind now... Way to go, John... I hope YOU'RE the little prick that roasts...

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 1:14 am
by Nukinin
I'm afraid I'm in the same boat as everyone else here. I grew up without my father, who was in prison. I was picked on.. as an excuse I convinced my mother to enroll me in a Kara-te style and when I hit my mid teens, I used that knowledge to strike out against people I didnt like. I too had desires. Sometimes, they scared me to know what I wanted to do to the people who rediculed me. I finally came to the more enlightened discovery that my fighting knowledge wasn't to be used that way. I seethed with anger so much at that time. Eventually, I turned around and used that energy to help people. I have very little compassion for those people, I came close to the edge, but was STRONG enough never to fall over it.
Dave, thank you for the great story. Yawg, I hear ya bro. <P>Brian (the mad mad mad Texan)

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 3:52 am
by Lord_Marable
Read my fan-fic several threads down. That's how I kept from lashing out.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 4:52 am
by Sins' Apprentice
Right now I'm actually going thru that stage earlier discussed. A social outcast, I've considered killing stray animals for fun (I actually did this one), suicide, even shooting up my school. But I weathered through most of it and turned out nicely. (Okay, that last sentence is a lie. I was diagnosed with ADD, schitzophrenia, major depression, bipolar disorder, multiple personalities, etc. But I just keep taking my medicine and I'm fine. Plus I found a great outlet. Drawing & writing. Most of my work pre-med is really frightening.) But I must admit, I was rooting for the shooter. Anyway, this thread is an amazing example of conflicting opinions, Reactionists vs Revolutionaries.<p>[This message has been edited by Sins' Apprentice (edited 11-30-2001).]

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 5:58 am
by Furry
Is it me, or are the fans of this strip more scary and disturbing than the characters in it?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 6:10 am
by PyroFox
And I'm yet another who'd felt like pulling a colombine many, many times(that was more in grade school then now though... Don't get me wrong, I had a good family, but the schools... Anything that'd drive a 7-year old to want to kill is seriously fucked up)... <P>What stopped me was either not having access to guns when I was younger, or not being around anyone really worth shooting when I was older(well, not worth shooting <I>dead</I> anyways... There's sevral people I think would be a lot nicer without kneecaps, but that's another story).<P>The good thing is, almost all, if not every last one of the worthless fuckers, has likely allready destroyed themselves or is in the process of doing so.<P>Besides, what dosen't kill you will only make you stronger. I never have been worth shit physicaly, but for as much as I hate the fuckers that tormented me, in a strange twist of fate they ultimately helped me. <P>If it wasn't for them, I wouldn't have focused so much on learning everything I could, which in the end left me a much better person, and also gave me the ability to appreciate comics like Jack, and to play mind games with hundreds of people at a time(oh do I <I>ever</I> love exploiting the rumor mill that is public high school... So many insignificant little minds to play with, so little time... {EG})<P>------------------
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 7:36 am
by Yawgmoth
Thanks for the support dave <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:08 am
by Fin
Pyrofox noted: The good thing is, almost all, if not every last one of the worthless fuckers, has likely allready destroyed themselves or is in the process of doing so.<P>I've observed this as well. I don't have any belief in a supernatural system of justice, but I do feel that all things are connected in life and that all but extreme cases "What comes around goes around." People who treated me unfairly have, for the most part, gone on to regret doing these things gravely without me having to enact any sort of vengeance on my own. Frankly, nothing you can dish out will ever amount to what the whole world can bring to bear upon that football jock/popular chick who will see that his/her highschool years were the best times of his/her life and it's all downhill from there because that diseased model of greater society is not all there is to life. Trust me on this one. Just keep your heads down. It gets better after you're thirty.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:27 am
by Yawgmoth
TASTE FIREY DEATH ASSHOLE BWA HA HA AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA YESSSS OVO!<P>WEll i have no sympathy for Bryan or this Asshole or Eric Kliebold or Every other fucker who's went off and Killed everyone for no reason. You know why, BECAUSE i am that same type of person who has had the same Motives and WANTS to do something has heinous as that. But did i .. NO I persevered through it And just left those people to destroy themselves by fucking up their own lives and Leaving them behind. Shit with as unstable as I am You didn't see me go walking through my school blowing away innocent people because i was Angry. That's what Trees and Axes and Gass and Garden tools and Inanimate objects are for taking your anger out on something that won't die o.O. I mean christ it's just ridiculus to go runnig around shooting a bunch of people cuz your pissed off. My stance is.. IF i can go 21 odd some years with out doing it yet anyone can.. IT's not that hard.. Use words and mindgames to destroy people, it's much more fun > <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">and way way WAY less messy.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 9:02 am
by DavidHopkins
I will both back up and suport what Yawg has said...<P>I myself had trouble growing up, luts of social humiliation in school and some other things I had, until recently, forgoten. I found a way to work through it with my drawings. Some of my eairlyier stuff is down right scarry. (I had alot of Drip leanings...) Some of it apiers in Jack.<P>My ultimate point is, that its not the social humiliation, its not the violent media, its not the avalibility of weapons (Suporter of the NRA BTW) It all comes down to the single desision of one individual to quit fighting and give in. By said rational, a psychotic killer isnt a strong upriser against popular society, hes a weak willed bastard who is just to pansy to deal with it.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 10:39 am
by Alfador
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Yawgmoth:
<B>TASTE FIREY DEATH ASSHOLE BWA HA HA AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA YESSSS OVO!<P>WEll i have no sympathy for Bryan or this Asshole or Eric Kliebold or Every other fucker who's went off and Killed everyone for no reason. You know why, BECAUSE i am that same type of person who has had the same Motives and WANTS to do something has heinous as that. But did i .. NO I persevered through it And just left those people to destroy themselves by fucking up their own lives and Leaving them behind. Shit with as unstable as I am You didn't see me go walking through my school blowing away innocent people because i was Angry. That's what Trees and Axes and Gass and Garden tools and Inanimate objects are for taking your anger out on something that won't die o.O. I mean christ it's just ridiculus to go runnig around shooting a bunch of people cuz your pissed off. My stance is.. IF i can go 21 odd some years with out doing it yet anyone can.. IT's not that hard.. Use words and mindgames to destroy people, it's much more fun > <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">and way way WAY less messy.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Another way to blow off steam: Counter-Strike and other 1st person shooter games on multiplayer mode. Nothin' says lovin' like a virtual sniper headshot. With the accent on VIRTUAL. Isn't pixelated death wonderful? You can die over and over again, kill over and over again, and death is never permanent in those games. Blow off steam as much as you want, the only consequence is your ISP fee.<P>------------------
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 11:37 am
by FlynnSteele
How often have you ever been driving over a bridge and wondered...'what if I just drive off? what if I drove into oncoming traffic'<P>I'm not saying this as a suicidal meaning..but we all have these dark throughts. There is something inside us..upbringing, God, right or wrong..something that makes us not. People like him..people who has turned off that switch and ignored it are to be pittied, not hated.<P>But they also are to be punished. In this case, we know what will happen so I hope he goes down hard.<P>I know this is rambling..

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 11:42 am
by Fin
I used to feel this way during my late teens as well. Course, it was a slightly different time and the place wasn't the best for being in a mood sympathetic to general humanity. It was the late 80s, and nuclear holocaust was still a very real fear. I grew up in a very conservative area of the world, and prefered to be alone than to suffer the unpleasant company of those my age at the time. The urge was there. To use violence against others. When you're male and you're that age, it's CLEARLY something biologically driven. The desire to assert yourselves over others -- something triggered from our primate brains. However, we live in a world where the expression of violence is infinitely more lethal than it once was, as well as unnaturally grouping large numbers of people together well beyond the sane threshold of tribe. It creates a highly impersonal enviroment, ripe for excessive displays of "manly violence". Luckly, this phase passes when you get older. By the time you're thirty, unless something's wrong with you, you really don't care anymore who calls you "Gay" or stupid stuff like that. Life is more important than those games. And it doesn't take some grand spiritual view of things to grasp it.

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2001 12:55 pm
by Xyuu
I'm rooting for the guy with the gun. I hope he finds the one that Jack says survives and takes care of them, too.<P>Yea, I'm a psycho... That's been explained to me before.<P>------------------
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2001 6:07 am
by Fists_of_furry
I guess I have a certain level of sympathy for Brian. Maybe because I was pushed close to the edge my self my freshman year in high school. There comes a point when anyone, no matter how well adjusted, wants to make the laughing stop (who's laughing now!!).<P>I myself was caught before I got pushed off the edge by the faculty at the school. I'm not saying that I condone school shootings. And in the story arc, Brian most certainly deserved to go to hell. I think Jack said it best, <P>"The last soul I sent here [hell] very much deserved it. But it still weighed on my heart."<P>Once again, I don't condone school shootings, I just have some sympathy for the shooters.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2001 9:17 am
by Jen Aside
At least one of you wants revenge...! One of you will be damned!<P>Ah, what the hell, I'll have us all damned <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2001 1:32 am
by Nukinin
Hey, thought you guys might appreciate this strip I did at stripcreator.com. I don't have the talent for drawing like Dave does, so I had put my simple ideas there. This comic might strike a cord with quite a few here though. click <a href=http://www.stripcreator.com/view.php?au ... </a>.<P><p>[This message has been edited by Nukinin (edited 12-02-2001).]

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2001 9:32 am
by Yawgmoth
LOL!! Jen I'm starting to like you =)