What I've learned....

Siece · Post by **Siece** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 1:28 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by JesIdres:
God's gift to women was chocolate.Cats are smart, they know when to act disinterested.Self doubt is the ultimate killer.
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Immaturity is a god send, but only if you use it right.
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The voices in your head are probably right, even if it hurts to admit it.
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Macs can smell fear.Servers [w]ill go down, no matter how often you save.Imagination is more important than knowledge, but reality still hurts.
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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm stealing these for my quote file. Do you mind?--

JesIdres · Post by **JesIdres** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 2:09 am

sure!

Cannonshop · Post by **Cannonshop** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 6:43 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>God's gift to women was chocolate.
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True.

Cats are smart, they know when to act
The phrase "Can we still be friends" is even more painful the 600th time around.
Been there, and yes, it is.
[B}Immaturity is a god send, but only if you use it right.Ignorance isn't always bliss.The voices in your head are probably right, even if it hurts to admit it.Celibacy isn't horrible.

True, to an extent. One gets used to the last one if one is busy with something else.
Besides-Sex IS overrated, Ignorance CAN kill you, and, the Voices are often too right to be sane.

Men are either gay, taken, or out to lunch.

The same can be said of Women!
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You may be thought as great for your independence, but guys like the normal girls.
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One of the problems with the Independent ones is that they tend to strike the average meathead as being either "Already Taken",
Or, as "Shrill, Shrewish, and Anti-Man"

Nice Guys ae the best guys, but they tend to whine a bit much.

Sure, whatever. I used to be a nice guy, but it gets ya nowhere. Women say they want "Nice", but that's not what they ACT they find attractive.
Pink pills don't do shit, but so does not taking them.

You mean, You're just finding this out?
We may only need to fear is fear itself, but panic sure does work as a good pinch hitter.Love does not translate electronically.Darwinism is something we desperately need.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What you say... Is mostly true, but, a lot of it is culturally self-inflicted. If you could decide what you REALLY wanted, you could have it, but nobody can with all the crap they fill their lives with, me included.
As for the "Razor Blades" thing: I found, when I attempted to "move on" that a buck-knife was quite effective enough, and, that Emergency Room personnel get rather excercised when applying rescucitation techniques. Also, when you go into shock that deep, your bowels let go, and it's very humiliating, and, undignified. Intensive Care isn't much fun either, nor is having nearly everyone you know walking on eggshells around you for months afterwards.
These things suck, and it only gets worse.
On the other hand, if, by "Razor Blades are Never around when you need them" you were referring to hair removal- Personal grooming is highly valued, stashing extras is always a good plan (provided you don't do like me, and forget where they are!)

JesIdres · Post by **JesIdres** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 9:01 am

I got horribly philosphical last night after a rotten day of fighting with family, work, carpal tunnel syndrome, SAD, and bailing friends. So I thought I'd share some of my annecdotes and lessons I've learned.God's gift to women was chocolate.Cats are smart, they know when to act disinterested.Self doubt is the ultimate killer.Escape is often the only option.Razor blades always go missing when you need them most.You can't always get the ripe fruit.The phrase "Can we still be friends" is even more painful the 600th time around.Immaturity is a god send, but only if you use it right.Ignorance isn't always bliss.The voices in your head are probably right, even if it hurts to admit it.Celibacy isn't horrible.Men are either gay, taken, or out to lunch.Revenge is a dish best served cold, but normally doesn't get served at all.You are your own worst critic, and ten to one, you're probably right.Macs can smell fear.Servers ill go down, no matter how often you save.Imagination is more important than knowledge, but reality still hurts.You may be thought as great for your independantness, but guys like the normal girls.Nice Guys ae the best guys, but they tend to whine a bit much.Nothing's ever perfect, making life hell for the perfectionist.The good ones do die young.Pink pills don't do shit, but so does not taking them.We may only need to fear is fear itself, but panic sure does work as a good pinch hitter.Love does not translate electronically.Darwinism is something we desperately need.Hell hath no fury like a mother's scorn.

Willow · Post by **Willow** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 9:34 am

JESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I refuse to be nice about this--sorry but I'm giving back what i'm given. NO RAZOR BLADES--and if that comment along with the little pink pills were directed at me *THBBBBBBBBBBBBBBTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT*

JesIdres · Post by **JesIdres** » Tue Jun 26, 2001 10:13 am

No, Willow, those were directed at myself. Razorblades weren't actually being used as such, just when ever they are needed in ANY situation.So, THBBBPTT back.

Cannonshop · Post by **Cannonshop** » Wed Jun 27, 2001 5:03 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Willow:
THanks for the tip about the buck-knife(j/k) I do quite well with the razors- but seriously Why do we always insist that men and women are either taken or gay or out to lunch--there are some reasonable people out there who are none of the above... Just we need to learn to congregate<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Unlikely, being sensible, one quickly learns that, while there is safety in numbers, it only works if you out-number the unreasonable/irresponsible ones.
It is far more sensible to maintain a low-hard-to detect profile, for survival's sake.
(the above was sarcasm, and not to be taken seriously) Fact is, the "Reasonable" folk are out there, but, we're a contrarian lot and can't organize into anything cohesive (this may be due to a certain independent streak common to the "Reasonable" people you refer to.), what's more, what would then happen to the millions of telephone sanitizers, interior decorators, petty burocrats, and, Middle managers, without us?
We can't very well send them off on the "B" starship to infest some hapless piece of real estate we might oneday need for ourselves, it would be inhumane. (especially to said real-estate!)

Willow · Post by **Willow** » Wed Jun 27, 2001 7:24 am

THanks for the tip about the buck-knife(j/k) I do quite well with the razors- but seriously Why do we always insist that men and women are either taken or gay or out to lunch--there are some reasonable people out there who are none of the above... Just we need to learn to congrigate

Jt · Post by Jt » Wed Jun 27, 2001 10:05 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by JesIdres:
Men are either gay, taken, or out to lunch.
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Hey! That's not true. I'm none of the above

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You may be thought as great for your independantness, but guys like the normal girls.
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Who's to say what's "normal"?
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Nice Guys ae the best guys, but they tend to whine a bit much.
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Damn... that describes me so well... *whine whine* ;D

StarrPolish · Post by **StarrPolish** » Thu Jun 28, 2001 7:54 am

You are your own worst critic, and ten to one, you're probably right.
Eh, I agree that you are your own worst critic, but you can't say you are right ten to one, simply because YOU are your own critic saying that. Maybe one to ten is a better thing to say.Did that make any sense?------------------
I am a star in my own universe, shining brightly, but when you put me next to everyone else, I look quite dim. Does anyone have any polish?

JesIdres · Post by **JesIdres** » Fri Jun 29, 2001 11:14 am

ARGH!Look. This was mainly written after a three hour phone conversation with my best friend. Right before then, my parents and I had a conversation regarding my summer plans. It had degraded into a shouting match with my father, ending with both of us slamming the phone down.
This list was in no way was meant as a rant against anyone, nor do I wish to start a fight with anyone. Yes, I got upset in IRC right after I found out my friend had a similar experience to myself, and the "can we stay friends" line was used again. Can we just say I'm seriously fucked up and let it drop?I'm going to be going home in a couple of days, and from then on, I'm going to stay silent. Maybe I'll get into a lot less trouble that way.I'm a prude, a bitch, a morally decrepit human being who should just get over things.I need a length of rope.

Cannonshop · Post by **Cannonshop** » Sat Jun 30, 2001 1:33 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by JesIdres:
ARGH!Look. This was mainly written after a three hour phone conversation with my best friend. Right before then, my parents and I had a conversation regarding my summer plans. It had degraded into a shouting match with my father, ending with both of us slamming the phone down.
This list was in no way was meant as a rant against anyone, nor do I wish to start a fight with anyone. Yes, I got upset in IRC right after I found out my friend had a similar experience to myself, and the "can we stay friends" line was used again. Can we just say I'm seriously fucked up and let it drop?I'm going to be going home in a couple of days, and from then on, I'm going to stay silent. Maybe I'll get into a lot less trouble that way.I'm a prude, a bitch, a morally decrepit human being who should just get over things.I need a length of rope.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Gee, to get all the people that have pissed you off, It's going to need to be a long one.
As for being "morally decrepit", you hardly count, dear Jess, You're a sweetheart, who sometimes takes too seriously things which deserve to be laughed at for their absurdity.
This comes, incidentally, with being 19.
You're also a wonderful artist, and, a good writer (this is one of the things that made the Fanfic-go-round so interesting-you have the ability to integrate your style with others, a talent hard to master!), a very pretty young lady, and, Intelligent to boot!
(believe me, the last is rarest of all!) Ease up on yourself some, the world will supply plenty of flagellation without adding some from inside.
Okay, Preaching done.
As for the "Can't we Still Be Friends?" line:
When a Guy uses it, he's hoping for some "on the side" action- i.e., in his mind, you're plan "B". The correct answer is "NO.", followed by directions to seek an appropriate slot in the afterlife, preferably the Hell of being Skinned Alive, or, the Circle of Flatterers. (Chinese Myth, and Dante's Hell, respectively.) For your purposes, said individual is not worth the 17 cents that (Per unit cost) would buy a Mil-spec 9mm round, to the head, as he is toying with your emotions (a fragile thing, particularly for someone who actually needs something stronger than the Pink-Pills-that-don't-do-shit.), what is, in later life, termed a "Scumbag" by all us Morally Repressed, Right-wing, gun-toting, uneducated, Redneck, Headbanging, Angry-not-yet-middle-aged white male oppressor-bastards. If you let this shit send you down a road I've been down already, the world will be a little less bright, a little less tolerable, and, a lot nastier than it was, for all the rest of us.
And, it won't fix a goddamned thing.
What I'm trying to say, is, that You should not let Those People make you miserable, they aren't, in the end, any more right than you are, and, often, they're a lot more wrong. On the gripping hand, yes, Play Nice while you're there, it will smooth things out for when you escape again, and will free up more resources for doing the things YOU think are important. Sun-Tzu reminds us that you are strongest when you appear weak. This isn't just in Battle, it's in dealing with others. Scout your terrain, when entering Hostile country, and hide your forces, until you have made yourself undefeatable. Again, this applies to going to a home where the values you hold close may not be in operation, or, recognized. Don't reveal your position, until you have the advantage. Be non-comittal when it comes to the arguments thrown at you, until you have a counter that will hit on the REASON side of the board, and don't present any arguments until the heat's gone down in the other person-Why? Initiative, if the other side's got it, they can defeat you, select your battles (Arguments), when they will be fought, where, and, how. This is hard to do when you're 19 (I had to learn how while simultaneously living in an environment where I was legally obligated to follow any Lawful Order given me by a "Superior", most of whom didn't have half my brains. You're going into a similar situation- discretion can often net a victory where there would only be defeat awaiting the temperamental rush.) It's hard as hell to keep ones head, but, in the end, the look on their faces as they find their arguments standing head-down in support of YOUR side is well worth it.------------------
Next time... less C4.

Jt · Post by Jt » Mon Jul 02, 2001 10:36 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by JesIdres:
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Can we just say I'm seriously fucked up and let it drop?[snip]I'm a prude, a bitch, a morally decrepit human being who should just get over things.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No, you're still an angsty teenager, you're allowed to be that way! ;DI'll shutup now.