In the Mushroom Kingdom [severely off topic]

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:47 am

Dude-- that would be the most awesome redemptive journey story EVAR.

LoneWolf23k · Post by **LoneWolf23k** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:21 am

allan_ecker wrote:Dude-- that would be the most awesome redemptive journey story EVAR.

Redemptive? Dude, they've made about 5 Wario games, and I don't think they ever really redeemed him...

Cyril_Dran · Post by **Cyril_Dran** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:17 am

That's because all the Wario games involved him collecting hordes of treasure for selfish reasons.

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:20 am

Cyril_Dran wrote:That's because all the Wario games involved him collecting hordes of treasure for selfish reasons.

My point exactly! Bowser rescuing his children-- That's a mission of love by its nature. Having Bowser forced to confront the fact that his problems might not be caused by the Plumber adds yet another dimension to it-- Bowser could be forced to confront the fact that his own cruelty and selfishness have pulled him into a morass of enemies and lies from which he can only escape by redeeming himself! And then gumdrops! Gumdrops rain from the cieling!!

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I mean, um.

GreatLimmick · Post by **GreatLimmick** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:32 am

You've just given me an idea for who could be behind it all: One of his own trusted officers, betraying him for more wealth or power. On top of everything else, that would force Bowser to reexamine the company he keeps.

Cyril_Dran · Post by **Cyril_Dran** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:24 am

I dunno, though. Would it really stay cannon with the Bowser they've been presenting recently? I mean, he was a PC in the last game, and was portrayed as a "reluctant hero" until the last stage (I won't ruin it if you haven't played the game.)... And the Koopa Troops aren't even as mean as he is. He's been changed from an evildoer to something of a comedy.. which they've done to everything to a degree. But he's been reduced from "evil" to "asshole" at best in recent years..

..... Yeah. I think I've overthought this. I'm gonna go soak my head for a few hours.

GreatLimmick · Post by **GreatLimmick** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:13 pm

Which game is this? (I've lost track...)

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:26 pm

It would be impossible, or at the very least, extremely convoluted, to merge all the existing canon together. I'm imagining a story outside any recent canon in all likelyhood.

A redemption quest version of Bowser would, as GL points out, have to discover that the crisis was ultimately of his own making, and in the course of this journey, learn to correct it.

It'd be keen.