Sleeping With Older Persons

Sylvain · Post by **Sylvain** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:23 am

Given that he is himself older than he looks, and that he has a younger husband as well, Rick's discomfort over ASCII's affair is a little hypocritical!

E_voyager · Post by **E_voyager** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:44 am

a difference of 95 years can be kind of steep in mortal terms. besies that, this is his son we are talking about not rick. rick may be in his mid life years 34-75 but he is not as old as his son's sweet heart was. sorry but at 4 45 am choheranr thoughr is rare for me.

Cinni · Post by **Cinni** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:22 am

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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Alrighty, that was funny. And I can so totally see Volair talking to Ascii casually at some later date about how Dr. Leon is in bed. And Saundra somehow surprising us.

The surprises delivered by Dr. Leon were no doubt creations of her greater than normal degree of experience and unusual brain. Whjy unusual? Because most brains don't last that long, let alone lasting that long under prime-of-life(or earlier, I suppose) hormones.

Course, this means that she was over a hundred when she dragged Volair off to collect what she was owed...

Cinni

Hat-Kun · Post by **Hat-Kun** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:02 am

Did anyone else notice that She didn't sleep with him, but rather selp? Must be some form of deviant behaviour....

On an unrelated note, why didn't Rick make Ascii gay?

Alfador · Post by **Alfador** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:02 am

Hey, ASCII's done it before...

The_Fox · Post by **The_Fox** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:37 am

Hat-Kun wrote:Did anyone else notice that She didn't sleep with him, but rather selp? Must be some form of deviant behaviour....

On an unrelated note, why didn't Rick make Ascii gay?

Perhaps Rick did not give ASCII an orientation specifically, prefering "nature" to take its course, and ASCII to be attracted to who he will without a hardwired basis for it.

- Jarylan

E_voyager · Post by **E_voyager** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:49 am

than sounds about right to me. also remeber this woman in question was met and evil cone in the body of a prepublesn young woman due to a foutain of youth forumla mistake. we don't know how long after evil con happened that rick found his son but we do know it was after evilcome be it a day a month or even 2 years. all in all i can help but wonder what kind of vitamens volomer is taking. that and why he and sandra chose to age while rick has the foutain of youth formula (the corrected verson) that they all can use.

Sylvain · Post by **Sylvain** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:13 pm

Alfador wrote:Hey, ASCII's done it before...

I do beleive that he was a male prostitute catering to women...

E_voyager · Post by **E_voyager** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:16 pm

so he was a jiggle low makings lots of dough?

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:53 pm

Hat-Kun wrote:Did anyone else notice that She didn't sleep with him, but rather selp? Must be some form of deviant behaviour....

GODDAMN TYPOS!!!!!

*thud*

However, if one ignores that slip up, I'm actually quite pleased with the feedback because people are wondering a lot of the things that I had hoped they would in preparation for later surprizes.

E_voyager · Post by **E_voyager** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:18 pm

well you have me waint for the next surpize. you don't have one of you charcters working on a robotize do you?

Cinni · Post by **Cinni** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:08 pm

e_voyager wrote:all in all i can help but wonder what kind of vitamens volomer is taking. that and why he and sandra chose to age while rick has the foutain of youth formula (the corrected verson) that they all can use.

Volomer?

And as for why the cast is still aging... How do you knw they are? Rick's older than Jake, how much older I don't know, but I see no visible sign of age on him. Saundra and Volairare showing some sign of age... But how do we know thay aren't waiting until they know what being old is like(give it twenty years or so), before saying '@#$& you, artritis!' and going on a second honeymoon at the same physical age they had thier first?

Heck, how do we know they didn't/won't drop in on themselves *during* their first?

Belshamroth

E_voyager · Post by **E_voyager** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:34 pm

both Jake and volimer were in highschoo with shandra while rick was workin on his theis. we know this becah he was takin a break form his theisl inorter to attack his OLD high shco that spean of a game less then ten years in most cases. also Volairare er is visably graying while Saundra needs glasses again. her eyes were fixed during the running amuck of dr. pegusses orb. there are more things i can bring up but i wont as it would takem me a while to confirem thim in the archivec. so if you want more details i say ask detile bear. he's better at this then i am.

Nyamaza · Post by **Nyamaza** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:30 pm

A few important things to note here.

First of all, Rick's own lack of aging isn't necesarilly an odd thing in and of itself. Consider that for the last 20 odd years (from the begingin of UH2 back to while he was a mad scientist) the only biological part of his body was his HEAD. And frankly, not all of the aging process is currently understood, so we can't be sure just which glands and enzimes start the whole 'fall from grace' that starts inthe mid 20s to mid 30s, when one goes from the post-pubescent pinacle to the slow degrade over time. So it's quite possible that for 20 (maybe even 30?) years, he didn't have any hormonal signals being sent telling hsi head to start aging further. His current body is only as old as UH2, and it woudl be kind of odd to put a head that thinks it's 25 onto a body that thinks its 40, so the body would need to be 'grown' to match the head's current level of aging.

Second, while Jake does appears to me near identical to how he looks in UH, some people just age extremely well. For example, if you look at pictures of Carl Sagan, the man looked nearly identical (down to dress and haircut) when he graduated college the first time then he did in his early 50s. It wasn;t till he was about 60 or so that time seemed to start affecting him, and then he went downhill rather fast. So Jake's current apparent youth does not necesarilly indicate any fountain of youth potion.

Third, Rick did not claim to have the prefected Fountain of Youth formula. He in fact had the ANTIDOTE to Dr. Leon's pre-pubescent form, thus it was in effect an aging formula.

Fourth, we can turn your question around. Why would Volair and Saundra WANT to use a fountain of youth formula? With the possible exception of Rick and Jake, they would have to see their friends and relatives grow oled and die without them. They would have to either 1) constantly explain to other people why they should have the formula and everyone else shouldn't (a world full of non-aging creatures gets overpopulated damn fast), or have to change their identities every couple decades to keep others from asking questions. In most books and comics I've read that really consider the issue seriously, eternal youth is actually considered a curse, not a blessing.

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:57 pm

Fixed the typo.

Stupid typos.

Cinni · Post by **Cinni** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:01 pm

Nyamaza wrote: Third, Rick did not claim to have the prefected Fountain of Youth formula. He in fact had the ANTIDOTE to Dr. Leon's pre-pubescent form, thus it was in effect an aging formula.

Fourth, we can turn your question around. Why would Volair and Saundra WANT to use a fountain of youth formula?
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In most books and comics I've read that really consider the issue seriously, eternal youth is actually considered a curse, not a blessing.

Hmm. I got the impression that Rick had not merely created an antidote, but had in fact determined the flaw in the original formula, from the relevant Evilcon strips.

As for the many and varied reasons one might not want to avoid aging, there are also ways by which one could get away with it for a while. As you say, some people age really well. One would not need to reveal one's advantage for several decades.

Also, Volair and Saundra appear to be, like Rick and Eliza, part of a sort of Illuminati that is by far more aware of what is happening in the world than most people are. The Spy Guild. An association of mad scientists. The Great Underground University. If anyone could have a social circle that would avoid awkwardness as a result of controlling one's aging, it's these folks.

As for any kind of belief in the need for humanity to all play by the same rules? Volair threw that out the window when he got his cybernetic implants. And Saundra had probably forcibly ejected it long before the time she tied a neat little pretzel of causality and hooked herself up with her husband.

Cinni

Hat-Kun · Post by **Hat-Kun** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:24 am

Also with the typos.....

http://umlauthouse.comicgenesis.com/d/20060421.html

My father has ever right to be concerned.

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:10 am

Hat-Kun wrote:Also with the typos.....

http://umlauthouse.comicgenesis.com/d/20060421.html

My father has ever right to be concerned.

Dammit, I remember that one.

For UH2 I started saving all the artwork at 300dpi in a separate folder, so at least now when there are typos I can fix them without having to go into the squooshed png file with a pair of metaphorical tweezers. Heck, in Photoshop Elements I just pull up the text tool and backspace over errors!

There are a truly STUPID number of typos in UH1, sadly.

Micro_Fur · Post by **Micro_Fur** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:26 pm

*runs in huffing noticing the conversation has already turned* Rats! I was going to ask if un the UH2 universe ASCII and Dr. Leon's relation would be considered statuory rape. Just odd ponerances. Oh and I don't recall if I had done so or not but I must applaud the name irony you gave Dr. Leon, Allan. Much bravado!

Micro_fur - Don't go trying to set stuff marked 'FLAMMABLE' on fire, kthxbye!

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:42 pm

ASCII is 25. Chronologically.

So no.

Not even slightly. But if you linearly scaled both their ages back to a point where Leon would not have undergone The Change, it might. If, you know, his having been built as an "adult" didn't count, which... I think it probably does. Actually the Law probably isn't settled on that score yet...