Forum Bonus Art (again)

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:46 pm

http://students.washington.edu/allane/U ... edziva.png

Yes, she IS a character I'm working on for UH2. If you're wondering how the heck dragons come to be in the UHniverse, which is proportedly a real-animals-only continuum, well, I'll get to that later.

Actually, she won't be showing up for quite some time, so for now just enjoy the dwagin.

The_Fox · Post by **The_Fox** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:03 am

Cute. Moriedziva has that wonderful "Ooooh, the evil things I have in mind look." Reminds me of the Grinch slightly, just after he thought up the light for Cindy Loo Who.

- Jarylan, who is embarassed that he looked at a sexy dragon, and could only come up with a Dr. Seuss reference.

Andrick · Post by **Andrick** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:52 am

The_Fox wrote:...- Jarylan, who is embarassed that he looked at a sexy dragon, and could only come up with a Dr. Seuss reference.

Indeed... That is a Wile E. Coyote leer if I've ever saw one.

Zaylas The Bard · Post by **Zaylas The Bard** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:05 am

I recognize that grin. That grin says, "I'm going to spike your drink, and when you wake up, you'll be tied to the bed..."

*keeps an eye on my drink*

Zaylas "It's about time you woke up." Bard

P.S. I'm not new, I've been around for a while now, I just forgot my last log in. I'm formerly Reptilian Psyche.

Andrick · Post by **Andrick** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:26 am

Zaylas The Bard wrote:... P.S. I'm not new, I've been around for a while now, I just forgot my last log in. I'm formerly Reptilian Psyche.

23rd of September, the Year of Our Lord 2004. It's been almost a year since last you been around. I just checked the UH comic and find that Allan was in the middle of his 4th wall breaking hiatus; just checking if something correlated.

Bu the by, I like the new buttons, Allan.

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:30 am

Ah, I was hoping someone'd notice. I'm particularly proud of the swirly thing. The shinees on the lettering were HAND PAINTED in photoshop, mind you.

Andrick · Post by **Andrick** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:45 am

*blink* Swirly thing? *blinkety-blink* Shinies on the lettering? Umm... I was referring to the Pierce, vixen, Rhonda buttons. God, I hope you're not talking about those as I have no farging clue as to what you mean. Please tell me it's something I missed somewhere else.

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:46 am

I take it you haven't CLICKED on any of them.

Andrick · Post by **Andrick** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:21 am

*clicky* Um... three images... blue url linkies... "main page" on temporal portal, lime flavored... uhh... okay, I just figured out the "swirly" but where's the "shinies?" And why do I now sound like a ferret?

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:26 am

The black lettering on the "Main Page" link has very, very slight specular highlights (white reflective patches) to create the illusion of liquidy, shiny text. However, this effect is very subtle at the low resolution I ported it to.

In case you're wondering how I'm responding so quickly, it's because I'm running Looooads of simulations and they take about the time it takes to write a breif post each.

Nyamaza · Post by **Nyamaza** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:52 pm

Quick not eallan, not sure if Comic Genesis is goign to run things like Keenspace, but I notice the link to the forum is gone from the website now.

Just wanted to point it out, in case it was a mistake. Dont want to get locked out again.

Hat-Kun · Post by **Hat-Kun** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:06 am

Nyamaza wrote:not sure if Comic Genesis is going to run things like Keenspace

Comic Genesis is Keenspace. The name got changed. That's it.

http://www.comicgenesis.com/about.html wrote:Kelly has been part of Comic Genesis when it was first founded as KeenSpace in 2000

http://www.comicgenesis.com/about.html wrote: Kisai was brought in by Kelly to help him with administration of the servers in 2002.

Same people as always. Any changes are superficial and have only really affected the design of the site's front page.

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:26 am

Nyamaza wrote:Quick not eallan, not sure if Comic Genesis is goign to run things like Keenspace, but I notice the link to the forum is gone from the website now.

Just wanted to point it out, in case it was a mistake. Dont want to get locked out again.

If I'm wrong here, someone please correct me, but I *think* the last forum downage was caused by a big, 'spacewide forumsplat, and I had to put the link on my main page simply to make sure the admins could figure out whose comic went where.

However, the redesign is not finalized yet, as evidenced by some remaining un-updated pages and the broken archive pages, so I'm still thinking of further renovations to the main page.

Also, Eliza's a 'yote, not a vixen, so I may need to change her color scheme slightly to make her look less like a fox.

RandomScribe · Post by **RandomScribe** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:57 pm

Gah! I check out for a week or two and suddenly the site's different!

Ah well. Change is good.

--RS

Cyril_Dran · Post by **Cyril_Dran** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:00 pm

While we're on the page of bonus art.. and I don't want to sound like a nag. Any motion on the Forumite Pic front? I know you said a while back that you really didn't have any work done on it, and I was wondering if you had picked up on it yet, out of curiosity. No pressure at all, just looking for an update, yaknow?

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:08 pm

I'm trying to get around to it. I know it's taking forever, but as everyone knows, I'm an amateur. This isn't actually my job, so delays will happen with things and I'll generally be horrifically flakey in all things related to comics. The only thing I seem to have any real motivation for is making sure my buffer is big enough to handle emergencies.

I cannot really appologize for this, since it's just the way it is. But I still do want to do the picture and I still plan on it. It just may be quite a while longer.

But hopefully not -too- much longer. Give it ETA 3 months, just to give a hand-wavey estimate.

Cyril_Dran · Post by **Cyril_Dran** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:50 pm

Righto. Gimme a hollar if there's any way I can help non artistically.. I wouldn't mind catalogging descriptions by name and possibly setting up a layout for the picture if you think it's too big a task to tackle all at once.

Micro_Fur · Post by **Micro_Fur** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:03 am

Something I spent about three hours doing this friday.
My friend from SL suggested I try an old trick, of which I was Highly scheptical, since I am right handed, he suggested I should try drawing with my left. Mind you the pict I drew originaly wasn't anywhere as neat as it is now. Criticizm good and bad wanted, so any of you pirahnas out there feel free to shred my crappy art. If you do like it feel free to modify/mutilate it or put it up anywhere you feel like, just send me a copy of your flavor.

Micro_fur - WHAT WAS I THINKING?

EDIT - I just looked at it again and relized I mis-spelled GOOD, and ended up with 'God God', bah my keyboard doesn't like it when I type the letters so darn fast!

Allan_ecker · Post by **Allan_ecker** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:58 pm

Okay, bad news first.

Minuses:

Tails are an extension of the spine. It helps to draw a single curve representing both the spine and the tail before drawing the details. A lot of tails drawn by furry artists look tacked-on because they don't follow the curvature of the spine.

The foot offsets for both characters are slightly askew; the female's feet should be closer together in height, the male's further apart.

The general shape of the work could use some sketch "undercarriage" to hold the anatomy more in line; drawing the shapes underneath the finished art in more detail can help to make anatomy look more natural, even when that anatomy is highly stylized. (Can't make too heavy a point reduction on this one since I myself have serious problem in this area. Eric Schwartz is a good example of an artist who makes very stylized anatomy look exactly "right" by the use of extensive "underdrawing".)

The processing and post-processing could use some help. I'd advise pushing more steps onto the computer side of the scanner to get rid of artifacts; try scanning as lineart in only black and white, adding colors and shading exclusively in digital format. (The comic-book-style "flat" coloration of this work wouldn't require a tablet to look right; just mouse away with that fill tool!) Scanning in black and white could also help cure the density variation in the inks, although it may take altering the "threshold" value to make sure lighter blacks come through cleanly and pencils stay behind. A big rule about digital art: scan and post-process at at least 2x the resolution of the final displayed image. In the final shrinkdown, it'll look lots better.

This .jpeg file would be greatly served by a lossless format like PNG or GIF, since run-length encoding (RLE) could do as much as JPEG compression to help out the size. As it stands, the JPEG compression is junking the text pretty badly, and perhaps unnecessarily, since I think PNG-8 would get nearly the same size reduction.

Pluses:

The details and little extras are neat. The cargo pants, gloves, etcetera add a lot of individualized details that make the characters look like "real" people.

The facial expressions are dead on. They look awesome. The poses are also pretty nifty.

Overall it's a good medly of Manga and Furry style, and although I think there's a lot of room for improvement, there's also a lot of stuff that's already right where it needs to be. Good effort over all.

If you drew this with your left hand, you just handed my ass to me.

Micro_Fur · Post by **Micro_Fur** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:15 pm

Thanks for the critique Allan, and just to ease your mind I did 'cheat'. I had some reference drawings and actual cloting atricles from my wardrobe I was looking at while putting this thing together.

That said and I will repeat myself this one time for you, 'I spent about three hours doing this' , 2/3 of which was cleanup on the original with my RIGHT hand, if it wasn't for the fact that I didn't scan the original rough in first you would see that it looked more like an outline sketch for half a rorschoc (however that damn word is spelled

), so in no way should you even dare compare my raw to your raw, so there

. On a side note, so God help me I will erect a shrine in your name as one of my favorite artists, you guys are better at the raw and composition, I just have knack for the cleanup! Do you feel better now Allan? Huh, do ya? Feel better damn it!

:Sorry had to pull that line out of context:

I was going to export to a PNG but realized that niether Ulead Photo Impact SE (I've been using v3.2 for about three years (how outdated can I get!) or Corel Painter Clasic will save as PNG or GIF (but for some reason PC will open it, hmmm, maybe I can rewrite that part of the program later), my computer would go nuts when I write TIF (some kind of mis-association with system files) and BMP was right out. Which left me with the meager JPG which still thouroughly trashed the image even after setting the QF to 100%. Sorry but I dislike Adobe PS, but I dont hate it either, that and it won't run right on my kernel for some reason.

As for the scan artifacts, well thats really my fault, now ain't it? I suppose I should have scanned higher than 200dpi 8bit color. That and the stupid sheet fed joke of a scanner I own tries to chew up sheets some times, soon to be replaced with an HP PSC1100 all-in-one machine, not what I want but what I can afford at the time, my other hobbies are just so darn expensive. *Mischievous smile* Not that I always mind that though.

All criticism taken constructively, maybe soon you guys will be able to find me on VCL when I get enough stuff put together. I've been dwelling on putting together an graphic (as in PICTURE, all you dirty, dirty minds out there) novel using some of my characters, for some if which I already have scrips for are titled B.L.I.S.S.(Yes an acronym, but it meaning has nothing to do with what it spells, that's all I'm telling for now 8) ).

On a side note I am looking for some volunteers to 'proof-read' some schematics for me, my latest quest involves building a clock with calendar function in mm/dd/yyyy format that must account for leap-years (but thankfully not DST) and an alarm that does a snooze function(currently the block I am working on), the restriction is that the cuircuit must be built entirely of standard (as in 4000 and 7000 series) ics, linear ics, and discreet components. My problem is I look at datasheets and assemble the schemata on the fly, and now I get kinda lost as to what on God's green earth I was doing in the first place sometimes since I don't work on this thing every day. Please don't ask how the hell I can debug stuff like that some times, I just do, and that scares me sometimes.

Micro_fur - Too many damn sidenotes

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