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To clarify, they never mentioned the holy name of her Brisbyness, but Candi, Snack's girlfriend, was OBVIOUSLY modeled after Mrs. B.

allan_ecker wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

SNACK IS DATING MRS. BRISBY!
SNACK IS DATING MRS. BRISBY!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Lemon juice?

LEMON JUICE?!?!

Bughdfdrghlsdkh dlhsglsdk fjosdinlgskdngsdiflk ofisdoajsdl...

-thud-

Okay. I'm fine now.

Good character development on Sierra this time around. It's nice to see a little more depth there. No Hunter at all, but after last week's Hunter-fest, I can't blame the writers. I'm actually starting to -miss- Sigfried and Roy; they are genuinely good characters and I want more.

Mmmm...fresh-squeezed lemon juice...

What?

*idly gnaws on a shishkabob stick*

...

What?

I taped it Tuesday*, and just got to see it tonight, so now I know of the humourous goodness of which you speak! Now I must see the previous episodes and get the VCR so it will tape the extravaganza each week.

And why do I sound like Roy?

* Global Network for any of the Canadians out there.

vcr? bittorrent, my good bear. :P


--Randy

randyg wrote:vcr? bittorrent, my good bear.

1. Can't. Current configuration of this computer isn't stable enough to add it, and I don't feel like doing a re-install or buying XP right now.

2. Won't. I don't believe there are any copies available that don't violate copyright. Also, never installed kazaa, gnutella or any equivalent program. Not judging anyone else. I just wouldn't feel comfortable doing it.

If you could have recorded it off the TV for free, how is it wrong to watch a copy someone else recorded for free? And, since father of the pride is not available for purchase, and likely never will be, even the argument of lost sales can't be applied.

As to #1... ever considered installing a real operating system? :)


--Randy
(Who's presently in a reasonably grumpy mood... anyone have a spare windshield, windshield wipers, and all four headlights for his '84 subaru gl wagon?)

Actually, I'm pretty sure he's right on that score.

See, at least for the MOMENT, it is fair play (by copyright law) to reccord, copy, and share television programs. It's called "fair use".

However, digital delivery is in the process of turning the entire entertainment industry inside out, upside down, and spinwise side widdershins. Digital media, lossless from end to end, user to user, ad infinitum, completely and utterly destroy the significance of the physical objects usually associated with entertainment. The disc doesn't matter. The zeroes and ones on it do. And you can get them -anywhere- using any of a hundred methods. The entertainment industry could be using this dynamic environment to create whole new sales strategies, a whole new economy of bits over atoms, but unfortunately most of the "big" companies see the internet as a leak to be plugged, not an opportunity to be capitalized upon.

Information does NOT want to be free. Songs want nothing, while their authors want to eat. But that's not the issue. If the NBC were smart, you'd already be able to buy Father of the Pride, episode by episode, at two bucks a pop. I'd have already bought all the episodes currently out.

But what's happening, instead, is that the entertainment industry is trying to change the rules from what worked for analog media into something that works exactly the same way, except with digital. Trouble is, that doesn't work. Analog was nice in that it allowed a "middle ground" between ownership of a work and isolation from it. And the industry didn't mind (well, not -much- anyway) if you had a VHS rip of someone else's tape, because you had lower quality for it, and knew where to get the "real deal". Also, even a copy of a copy was pretty lame, and if you went to a depth of oh, say, four, it was pretty much all over.

But now it's all or nothing. Either you've got it or you don't. Zero or one.

To the industry, it's obvious. Zero if you don't pay. One if you do. Easy. Which would be fine, if it were harder to get the stuff by stealing it than it was to buy. But it is actually -vastly- more difficult to get your hands on a legitimate copy of something, even if you discount the monetary exchange, because there are virtually no online data retailers (so far it's iTunes and BitPass).

My point in all this? Well, it's that the entertainment industry needs to change it's tune from "getting entertainment via the internet is wrong" to "we cut out the middle man and save you big".

I own all the licenses to all the software on my computer.
I own all the songs on my computer (with a few exceptions, although I'm constantly trying to find ways to get the licenses for the ones I don't have, not always as easy as it sounds, especially with the obscure titles I like.)
I do not, however, have licenses to all the TV shows on my computer. Because I didn't have to buy one to see it on the TV.

And, uh, DB, I'd stick with analog for now. The Entertainment Wars aren't over yet, and my copies of this show could get announced illegal tomorrow for all I know.

Yup. Most "content providers" like artists tend to understand my point.

Up here, the basic division is distribution. If I record from a broadcast in order to timeshift and play it later, it's generally considered fair use. If I take the tape over to my friend's to play it, it's iffy. If I lend the tape to my friend, it's unauthorized distribution and illegal.

randyg wrote:As to #1... ever considered installing a real operating system?

Yup. As I said I might get XP eventually. What I'm missing is money and time. Sorry that you're grumpy.

DetailBear wrote:

randyg wrote:As to #1... ever considered installing a real operating system?

Yup. As I said I might get XP eventually. What I'm missing is money and time. Sorry that you're grumpy.

I think he means something that isn't made by microsoft .

ARGH!!!

Not only are they(NBC) not showing the next two episodes of Father of the Pride during the following two weeks (the 9th and the 16th) like they'd planned...they're preempting it for a REALITY SHOW.

Yes, Allan, you are justified in feeling that rage: it's THAT reality show.

Here is proof of the schedule for the 9th; the preemption on the 16th I have not found confirmation for and is so far rumor, but...ERGH.

FUCKERS.

AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the fuckers canceled it.

We get to finish out the twelve (thirteen?) episodes already produced and that's it. I blame the failure purely on the weak pilot episode, but the whole thing was really too good to be true anyway.

Oh well. Hopefully we'll get a DVD release.

At least I won't be standing in the shadow of this series when I finally do Family of Fur, which frankly is as much like Father of the Pride as Sabrina Online is like The Lion King.

Next episode airing December 21.

FUCKERS.

Rrrrr...

All in favor of torching NBC execs say 'Aye!'.

Bastiches.

Aye.

Yarrrr.

lord_foxfire wrote:All in favor of torching NBC execs say 'Aye!'.

Bastiches.

AYE!!!

- Jarylan

Aye!

And that's just because I favor the torching of TV network execs on principle. I've never seen the show. ^^;

--RS

AYE.

And can we add the bozo(s) responsible for keeping these guys from getting their ad put up? I mean, sure, by including other minorities in there, they imply that discriminating against homosexuals is exactly as stupid and evil as descriminating against people of other races, but... isn't that kind of, uh, TRUE?

"We find it disturbing that the networks in question seem to have no problem exploiting gay persons through mindless comedies or titillating dramas, but when it comes to a church's loving welcome of committed gay couples, that's where they draw the line," says the Rev. Robert Chase, director of the UCC's communication ministry.

Damn. I'd go to church if I got this guy speaking.

That joke I made about starting an organization called the Pink Panthers is sounding less and less like a joke every day.

allan_ecker wrote:That joke I made about starting an organization called the Pink Panthers is sounding less and less like a joke every day.

SIGN. ME. UP.

http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/01/news/fo ... us_ad_ban/

Yup, it's real alright. I think CNN's a pretty much bedrock source.

Hmm. At least NBC had the decency to be too ashamed of their decision to comment on it. CBS's comments concerning its fear of putting up something in disagreement with the executive branch is kind of... creepy.