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OT: Associated Student Bodies

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 12:59 pm
by ZOMBIE USER 7262
Actually, this has little to do with Associated Student Bodies except for the cover of issue 6. I'm not trying to start a debate on Christianity and homosexuality and blahblahblahnity...but this cover is far too beautiful and emo to keep out of everyone's sight. I have to share it.

Now, regular copyright bs applies, even though I scanned it myself. Download, look, gape, but don't redistribute all over the ether, eh? I wanna support the artists.

"The Sparrow Falls"

I want this as a (official) full-sized poster... *drool*

PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 11:43 pm
by Crash
Wow... that's beautiful. I LOVE the imagery... the rosetta, and the two furs, one in it, and one outside... Wonderful. It raises questions of fidelity... devotion, love... salvation and failing... I wanna read the story now...

Excellent Bible verse.. a lot of foreshadowing there....

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 9:50 am
by Tek Roo
There are a couple of things that annoy me about the character design, but the composition is quite striking!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 10:06 am
by Pengolodh_sc
What is this publication Associated Student Bodies?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 1:04 pm
by K. Ivan Ruppert
Associated Student Bodies is a comic about a guy named Daniel who discovers that he's gay while at collage. It's adult themed, and gets pornographic at times, but deals with alot of issues related to homosexuality. For example, in the issue Elix posted the cover for, Daniel is forced to "come out" to his parents, who are particularly conservative Catholics. He gets into an arguement with his father about it, and then with his boyfriend, who came to his defense when it really would have been better for him to stay back. Danny runs off, and eventually winds up in a church, speaking to a priest about what happened.

It's a good series, if a little predicable. 7 was the last one I got, there were 2 more I think, that I should see if I can obtain.

-K

PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 8:57 pm
by Andrick
Since this thread is about ASB, I thought I'd share something Hampster found.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:29 am
by ZOMBIE USER 10915
Tek Roo wrote:There are a couple of things that annoy me about the character design, but the composition is quite striking!


The heads seem a little square and the cheeks a little too large but other than that it's very good.

Thanks for sharing it Elix. 8)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:55 pm
by IndigoMoon
:o Wow. That is some really beautiful work. I'm intrigued.. I wanna read the story too!

Oh my.. am I the only one who thinks that priest is downright cuddly? I like the chubby cheeks myself.. *snuggles* Very, very nice.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:09 pm
by ZOMBIE USER 10915
IndigoMoon wrote:Oh my.. am I the only one who thinks that priest is downright cuddly?


*Sheepdog grins*

Sorry, wrong gender. :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:06 am
by ZOMBIE USER 7262
Wow! :)

Glad you all liked it...I love it... oh, and I'm not up on my Christian sects, but I remember that Dannylion's parents are Lutheran.

And, yeah, "Adult Readers Only" means it... but I think it's tastefully-done. :)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:32 am
by Gloria
One might question where there could ever be such a thing as tastefully done pornography...

*glares at Devon and Crash*
Not a word guys. Not a single WORD. *makes a slashing motion across her throat*

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:43 am
by ZOMBIE USER 10915
Gloria wrote:One might question where there could ever be such a thing as tastefully done pornography...


Everyone has a different view of what is pornographic.
Some cultures consider any skin showing on a woman as unacceptable.
Then on the other hand there are nudist colonies all over the world.

Gloria wrote:*glares at Devon and Crash*
Not a word guys. Not a single WORD. *makes a slashing motion across her throat*


*taps muzzle*

Hmmm... :-?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:46 am
by W.M.Y.L.G. Joe
*glares at Devon and Crash*
Not a word guys. Not a single WORD. *makes a slashing motion across her throat*


*pops up*

She didn't say I couldn't say anything! I think that- ACK!

*is tackled, then gagged and tied up by Gloria*

<img src=http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/stick.gif>

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 11:19 am
by Crash
Gloria wrote:*makes a slashing motion across her throat*


What? What did I do?
*grumbles* First Devon, now Gloria... Between the two of them, I'm not gonna make it to Friday!

*runs towards his ghetto wagon, only to see it blow up prematurely*

Betty!! NOOOOOoooooooooo!

*dodges flaming vehicular fragments and runs for a convenient grove of trees*

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 2:16 pm
by Andrick
Gloria wrote:One might question where there could ever be such a thing as tastefully done pornography...

And one might get an answer. The people who would say "no" have only been exposed to pornography which appeals to base lust only without any attempt to trigger a true emotion.

When pornography attempts to capture something more than an act, it becomes art. At this point, it is open to individual discretion on what is and is not tasteful as that is a matter of personal opinion for each work. My answer: yes there could be and yes there is.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 2:40 pm
by Gloria
I'm inclined to disagree, for reasons of pure desensitization and moral qualms... I mean... I don't have a problem with artistic nudity, and, in the sense of classical art, there's stuff that COULD be considered pornographic, I suppose. But... yeah. I really don't believe that sexuality is something that should BE out in the open where everybody can see it, because it's meant to be an intimate act between two people.

But, that's my view, and you all know what a stuffed-shirt conservativistic Christian goody-two shoes I am. I can't, and don't expect anybody with a secular viewpoint to agree with me.

Anywhoo...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 5:54 pm
by MongooseQuarrel
vey nice...pitty colors. *mutters something fighting the urge to hug her plushie fox on the degree of cuddle-ableity of the preist, dispite the niffaly pictured anguish in the spiffy-lights*
However I'll..void(right term?) my 'opinions' on the potental 'tastfulness' of 'pornography' and the 'apostrophe'...
looks to be a very compelling storyline...

But, that's my view, and you all know what a stuffed-shirt conservativistic Christian goody-two shoes I am. I can't, and don't expect anybody with a secular viewpoint to agree with me.

but we still like ya anyhows!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:16 pm
by Andrick
Ah, you hit the stumbling block. Intimacy, as you conject, should not be out in the open. This argument has no merit on whether there is such a thing as tasteful pornography.

Let me illustrate that point by a hypothetical example. Let's say a woman is seperated from her lover for an extended period of time and considerable distance. Then it comes to pass she gets a letter from the man she left behind. The letter is several pages with a story written out of what her first night back with him will be like - his thoughts, his moves and motivations. Now this is something personal, between the two of them and as private as they wish to make it. Does privacy make this any less pornographic in nature? No.

Desensitization as it pertains to... what? An abatement of instinctual lust? I'm at a loss at how this effects tasteful pornography as this will have a greater impact than the fleeting aphrodisia to which lesser pornographic material caters. When artistic pornography conveys love, loss, vulnerability, tenderness, adoration it cannot be dismissed easily without dismissing those emotional values as well; if one successfully does that then there is a problem going far deeper than what we are discussing.

If you are uncomfortable with this discussion, Gloria, I'll let it drop at that.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:37 pm
by Gloria
If you are uncomfortable with this discussion, Gloria, I'll let it drop at that.


Is that intended as a personal challenge, or what?
I mean, you know darn well I'm uncomfortable with the whole bloody subject but.... anyway... *shuts up*

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:06 pm
by W.M.Y.L.G. Joe
*Blurts out*

GAY NASAL SEX!!!!!!




...Did I say that out loud? :o