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by **Schissel** on Sun Nov 04, 2001 9:31 am

Well, hrmph- try as I might, I can't think of an excuse to subsume this in any of the existing threads... who'd'a thunk. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> Not that it's a burning question (erm, distant potential pun unintentional and folded.)I come to wonderingWhy Nequii chooses to berate (hrm. too strong a word?) Irooz, specifically, of the two (Irooz, Shadowrose) equally petulant & uncooperative figures before him...and in what tone (paper communicates less well than sound <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> ) that "be nice" is meant... (I wonder of a sudden - a bit more in detail than I did, since I think I wasn't entirely in ignorance - Nequii's attitude towards the two and the relative merits of their claims on his friendship, their claims on his patience, among many other etc. and for examples...)Since - especially since - the full backstory between Shadow, Irooz, and others has not yet been told, and for other reasons besides in my opinion, I'm expecting at least the possibility (i.e. if nothing else interrupts the flow *g* {where are you going with that dreadnaught, Wendy?}) of some very interesting character by-play in the next few episodes. Please pardon a befuddled, up-too-late reader's meanderings...-Eric Schissel(EDIT: (On considering how sheerly nit-picky and minor my question is, though I'm having fun with it anyway...) Why yes, we* will analyze each regular episode in an effort to scrutinize, e.g., the choice of Red #5 rather than Blue #7 in the pixel 13 cm. to the right and 15 cm. under the top left of the frame. Isn't that what posters do in message boards? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> *chuckle* )* Further EDIT: Ok, at the right-now and temporary moment "we" seems to have a somewhat limited definitional scope, but...------------------
The stars move still
time runs,
the clock will strike- Marlowe
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by **Schissel** on Mon Nov 05, 2001 2:15 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
*giggle* Pun! Pun!
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Only if this gets to be a rather hotter- erm, longer- topic. *g*
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Well, I'd say it's a pretty strong point that you should avoid offending your host. All the much more of a point of said host has the means to hurt even a God pretty badly, would he try.
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This in itself is ... interesting ... in general people with access to the ability to do that need all the luck they can get, so far as I know...
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That, and since 'Rose acctually was in bed when Nequii came, he ought to be pretty bad off, and you don't tell people off if they're hurt, that's just mean.
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*nods* ok. (There had been another reason why I'd asked - in addition, not instead, that is-, which I'll get back to after my slower-than-standard browser completes a complete traversal of the archives *g*...) <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
The 'be nice' was probably said in about the same tone as a stressed mother tells her son for the dozenth time to behave himself.
Best comparison I can come up with.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hrm, ok- well, I could think of a few possible tones, and so thanks.
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*snicker* Next few strips are interesting, yes. *g* We better hope Wendy doesn't decide to show up, I suspect she wouldn't be greeted that politely.
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*blink*
*blink*
Now it dawns on me why in an earlier thread the reference to the word-game of "Ghost" was responded to as it was...
And maybe something else too.
Has Shadowrose really already made the connection between Irooz's appearance (hrm- two appearances to distinguish- must be careful here- how did the amber get in Haven; how did her spirit get freed from the amber. Or was the amber always in Haven... since after all, Nequii was speaking with the amber in the episode where he was 'napped- and that was in Haven, since he was in his stable form, there.., I am guessing...) and Wendy's behavior... interesting. No need for Nequii to tell him then...? Well, for Shadowrose to have known of Wendy's associations with the Guardian seems hardly outside the realms of possibility <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/redface.gif"> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
Oh, analyze on, I like to read, and am very happy that this board has some activity, again. And that I get flaming topics and two-page threads! Yay!And we can only hope that "we" will grow to include more people in the near future...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Amen to that <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> (continues archive retraversal, comes upon first ? appearance of Gina so far... odd, that's during Kit's Karaoke Machine- deja vu...)-Eric Schissel

by **Schissel** on Mon Nov 05, 2001 4:27 am

And speaking of Gina (after passing through several more of her appearances in the archives) she seems, in my honest opinion, to be an excellent candidate (joke not intended) for a "focus" storyline at some point in the eventual-future...
this is said in full recognition of the fact that you already have your plate full-well_past_overflowing in quite a few senses: I deliberately mean it as a very back-burner suggestion and naught more- and yet it does occur to me after seeing those first few appearances (with a relatively narrow range of emotions suggesting- what?- personality?... and anything deeper?...) and remembering her several-times-recently-read cast page entry.And, of course, the reason you gave in this forum (as to why she's a Dark Unicorn), which may or may not be related to the cast page information, I can only guess...-Eric Schissel

by **Shadowed Rose** on Mon Nov 05, 2001 10:45 am

*giggle* Pun! Pun!Well, I'd say it's a pretty strong point that you should avoid offending your host. All the much more of a point of said host has the means to hurt even a God pretty badly, would he try.
That, and since 'Rose acctually was in bed when Nequii came, he ought to be pretty bad off, and you don't tell people off if they're hurt, that's just mean.The 'be nice' was probably said in about the same tone as a stressed mother tells her son for the dozenth time to behave himself.
Best comparison I can come up with.*snicker* Next few strips are interesting, yes. *g* We better hope Wendy doesn't decide to show up, I suspect she wouldn't be greeted that politely.Oh, analyze on, I like to read, and am very happy that this board has some activity, again. And that I get flaming topics and two-page threads! Yay!And we can only hope that "we" will grow to include more people in the near future...
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<A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/" TARGET=_blank>Alexandra</A>
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Shadowed Rose** on Tue Nov 06, 2001 1:21 am

Well, at this rate, 16 or more replies to this topic is quite likely, is it not?Well, Gods are just immortal, they're not in any way invincible. And whilst they have means to avoid getting injured, in many cases, those means tend to not be particulary much good when dealing with Shadowrose.Awww. I feel your pain, slower-than-standard browsers are evil.Insert computer class note similar to the one in the Shadowrose thread. Will finish later.------------------
<A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/" TARGET=_blank>Alexandra</A>
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Schissel** on Tue Nov 06, 2001 1:23 am

On rereading some of OMW I don't know whether to reconsider my statements in regards Gina or if anything to amplify them if slightly.Nov 4 comic again: it now occurs to me, that's... something... being created and projected by Shadowrose as he turns backwards. I regret to say I can't tell exactly what, though. I had thought it was something being discarded, for some reason, by Irooz *g*-Eric Schissel

by **Schissel** on Tue Nov 06, 2001 1:41 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
Well, at this rate, 16 or more replies to this topic is quite likely, is it not?
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I'm beginning to think so <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/eek.gif"> <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
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Well, Gods are just immortal, they're not in any way invincible. And whilst they have means to avoid getting injured, in many cases, those means tend to not be particulary much good when dealing with Shadowrose.Awww. I feel your pain, slower-than-standard browsers are evil.
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Well, I use this one over Netscape as an alternative because of the things it does that NS doesn't (well, to be fair, each has important advantages, and I doubt I'll be getting rid of either.)
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Insert computer class note similar to the one in the Shadowrose thread. Will finish later.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Rightho.
(Read the two instalments of Shadowrose's background. Disturbing, yes. Also informative and poignant. Thank you.)
-Eric Schissel

by **Schissel** on Tue Nov 06, 2001 3:02 am

Nov 6 '01 spoiler ... (ponders separating this off into another thread, but decides... nah. I can think of reasons to do so, but also reasons not.) <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by schissel:

Nov 4 comic again: it now occurs to me, that's... something... being created and projected by Shadowrose as he turns backwards. I regret to say I can't tell exactly what, though.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ok... now I see what it is and why, though I don't know exactly what that sort of outfit
is called. Oh well <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">Irooz has gone from werewolf-shaman to ghost/amber-magicjar, I suspect she's seen her share of changes and a minor(?) thing like Shadowrose's growth in mage-power seems to phase (sp?) her. Hrm. I'm missing something. (Hrm- is it Sah' who usually blocks Shadowrose's mage-powers? With Sah' visiting Jazar... hrm indeed, perhaps I am beginning to understand more now, or perhaps not...)-Eric Schissel

by **Schissel** on Wed Nov 07, 2001 2:25 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
Gina is Gina, it's hard to say anything more than that for sure. By now, though, she ought to not be suicidal anymore. Which she still is in OMW (although those chapters are not yet written, and won't be for a while, Sah' and friends have to get halfway across Erigineea first).
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Ah. *hrm*
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Netscape has the advantage that it doesn't forgive half of what IE does, and the disadvantage that when you give it a pixel width for a table, it's about 75% of what the width will be in IE. Thus, the PH front page may or may not look icky when using Netscape, I do not have it, I do not know.
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I've looked at the front page in Netscape Communicator and a Mac-specific browser called iCab Preview. There are differences (the groups of left-hand buttons have spaces between them in Netscape, is the primary difference, and it takes somewhat longer to load) but I'd say it looks fine in both.
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Imformative was what I was aiming for. The disturbing just happened to be there....Hope it helps to at least partially understand his motivations, especially to a few future events.
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So far, probably yes, though I'd have to think a while if I wanted to be more specific than that...
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*snicker* Important reason not to: This thread wouldn't grow as fast!That outfit would just be some non-fancy robe, since 'Rose was more planning on not standing arguing with a ghost ("and a stupid ghost at that") in his underwear, than to acctually go anywhere.
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I'm going to have to... I have serious trouble actually believing Irooz is unintelligent, but at the moment she's neither acting particularly intelligent nor particularly wise. I am attempting to be sympathetic given that she is facing her murderer, given that she is in an unfamiliar place and an unfamiliar time, that she is largely not among friends, and that she has almost none of the abilities she had for a good deal of her life, but there might be something to be said for standing still and going through her options (walking away not being one of them, since Nequii is holding the amber, I realize...)
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Irooz has, indeed, gone through a lot, but she's not seen Shadowrose work magic since a pretty stupid, almost fatal arcane duel with the honoured Sah'togar. She's lucky Sah' stopped her from intervening, or 'Rose may well have drained also her shamanic Gift. And an assassin that is also a shaman... Scary concept.As for the blocking of mage-powers... A comment of Kit's left a clue somewhere along the line, a bit after his suicide attempt...
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I was surprised to see Kit that once, since I was practically sure he was with the group that went with Sah'. Perhaps because he had been talking with Krizz about it...(EDIT: And one further thought...
At the time, all Irooz had to lose, perhaps, was her shamanistic abilities. Right now, it seems to me possible that a ghost can be, if not permanently - made incoherent (I was about to say discorporated but realized the incoherency of the statement; though of course if the amber were to be broken... hrm- I wasn't thinking of that, actually) then at least, seriously and lengthily inconvenienced, and Irooz has serious cause to consider for her for-want-of-a-better-word second-life. I might be very mistaken but then... she is antagonizing him on his home ground... end EDIT.)
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Hmm... Perhaps I read too much between the lines of Shadow's and 'Rooz's conversation...
Knotty, and unspoken. Why surely, you should have become a cartoonist, finding and following these tiny lines of... Something.
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Cartoonist? I can't draw an out-of-control scribble (forget a straight line *g*,) my writing skills are schlecht oder schlechter...
But... I appreciate the thought. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> (2nd EDIT: and yes, I do appreciate the pun... for I can read between the lines, sketchily. *g* )
-Eric Schissel[This message has been edited by schissel (edited 11-08-2001).]

by **Schissel** on Wed Nov 07, 2001 3:37 am

A further point, and I really am wondering why this hadn't occurred to me.
Just perhaps Irooz suspects, or even firmly believes, that Shadowrose has by now gone and finished the job that he failed to complete when he killed her instead, and has killed Sah'. After all, Sah' is nowhere around; Irooz has mostly lost her shamanistic abilities; I -- erm -- rather doubt her heightened sense of smell can carry all the way to Jazar's estates; she may have, in sum, no way of knowing that Sah' is alive, and every reason for suspecting, that he is not.
She's angry enough with Shadowrose for killing her (killing her body, forcing her to transfer it to an amber prison for safekeeping)- if she does indeed think that Shadowrose has killed her brother since she died, ... (erm. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"> )
That's a lot of knotty problems to untie...
And unspoken.
-Eric Schissel

by **Shadowed Rose** on Wed Nov 07, 2001 11:51 am

Gina is Gina, it's hard to say anything more than that for sure. By now, though, she ought to not be suicidal anymore. Which she still is in OMW (although those chapters are not yet written, and won't be for a while, Sah' and friends have to get halfway across Erigineea first).Netscape has the advantage that it doesn't forgive half of what IE does, and the disadvantage that when you give it a pixel width for a table, it's about 75% of what the width will be in IE. Thus, the PH front page may or may not look icky when using Netscape, I do not have it, I do not know.Imformative was what I was aiming for. The disturbing just happened to be there. ...Hope it helps to at least partially understand his motivations, especially to a few future events.*snicker* Important reason not to: This thread wouldn't grow as fast!That outfit would just be some non-fancy robe, since 'Rose was more planning on not standing arguing with a ghost ("and a stupid ghost at that") in his underwear, than to acctually go anywhere.Irooz has, indeed, gone through a lot, but she's not seen Shadowrose work magic since a pretty stupid, almost fatal arcane duel with the honoured Sah'togar. She's lucky Sah' stopped her from intervening, or 'Rose may well have drained also her shamanic Gift. And an assassin that is also a shaman... Scary concept.As for the blocking of mage-powers... A comment of Kit's left a clue somewhere along the line, a bit after his suicide attempt...Hmm... Perhaps I read too much between the lines of Shadow's and 'Rooz's conversation...
Knotty, and unspoken. Why surely, you should have become a cartoonist, finding and following these tiny lines of... Something.
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<A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/" TARGET=_blank>Alexandra</A>
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Schissel** on Thu Nov 08, 2001 2:12 am

Nov. 8 SpoilerOr, of course, the sorta pointless fight-in-the-making could end (? I hope, anyhow) -that- way, too.Another briefish rambling, then:
while it's still considerably premature to be making any such speculations, I do wonder if the way is being prepared for Irooz to be made a more permanent member of the cast after all, and if the situation-at-home from the points of view of several Haveners will in due course her ear be bent her way, then. Of course, if that's the manner of it, Shadowrose may similarly see an opportunity here (tho' not with an unprejudiced audience) to tell her his view of things... (and not just about the present situation and storyarc, either...) -Eric Schissel

by **Schissel** on Fri Nov 09, 2001 3:07 am

(Nov. 8 still) Then again, an "imposed" (so to speak) peace (lacking a foundation in any desire for peace amongst the two parties directly involved) tends to have a very brief shelf life, as a rule and in my honest opinion. I can certainly think of things that would make it more lasting- and doubt my list would be exhaustive.
-Eric Schissel

by **Schissel** on Mon Nov 12, 2001 1:11 am

Nov 12 spoiler -my. surprising (errrmmmm... consistent with a conjecture of mine and inconsistent with another, perhaps more than one of each, definitely very surprising...) (Though- who exactly is saying "Can't hurt her?" in the final panel- her referring to Irooz? I almost have to assume that it's Irooz exclaiming "Guardian?" etc. with surprise... and frankly unless her ability to leave her amber shell the first time was due to something completely other than the backwash of the Guardian's efforts in freeing Nequii, and was completely unrelated- this certainly does suggest Irooz wasn't directly freed by Sylver, anyhow (for all that she can't communicate with him)- it's something to think on.As is the fact that unless I miss my guess, and probably rather more importantly, she's very much afraid of the news. Can the Guardian trap her permanently in the amber, or worse still (perhaps just kill her outright...)?I wonder.-Eric Schissel (EDIT: Eric, Eric. Shadowrose is saying "Can I hurt her?" ... )[This message has been edited by schissel (edited 11-12-2001).]

by **Schissel** on Mon Nov 12, 2001 8:37 am

Hrm. So if Shadowrose didn't already know about Sylver...(i) since Wendy was already in trouble by his lights, I'm guessing this was probably for one or both of two reasons.
1Doing something (what, only now, if now, known) to free Irooz and put Shadowrose in the shape he's in;
2Having been (earlier) a rather free source of information that became fuel for some of the more homophobic Haveners' fires and did little to relax an uncomfortable situation...Of course, nothing says Shadowrose didn't know (or guess) about Sylver, just that Nequii only told him about him right now.An unrelated thought. When you went on your basically Su-T-Th-Sa schedule to begin with and settled on it, you put a notice about this on your front page. Considering the likely ratio of comic regulars to forum regulars, have you considered putting a like notice of the new change in "typical schedule" on the front page now, under the circs?A bit late, of course, as it's late Monday here and early Tuesday there and so you've already been through one day of it, but hope Hell Schedule is treating you well.-Eric Schissel

by **Schissel** on Mon Nov 12, 2001 10:52 am

Was going to joke about an exchange twixt Shadowrose and Irooz along the lines of "So what have you been up to the last few years?" but I find, I lack the words. And the knowledge (I can guess mostly, with Irooz- I don't think she's been up to much! I have no clue what Shadowrose was up to after Irooz' death, so can't answer for him there, either... his first appearance that I know of was, iirc, New Years' Eve 2000... But I'd certainly not mind hearing. Oh well, it might be a sign they were on better terms, and I can't find myself quite wishing Irooz wholly ill. Even if as werewolves go she and a certain D.A.v.U. are definitely two very different character types! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> )
-Eric Schissel
(EDIT: the reference is to a character in a particular novel (or novels) I like, here given by her initials for a very, very precise reason.)[This message has been edited by schissel (edited 11-13-2001).]

by **Schissel** on Thu Nov 15, 2001 5:09 am

Hrm.
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Even further confused by schissel:

I was surprised to see Kit that once, since I was practically sure he was with the group that went with Sah'. Perhaps because he had been talking with Krizz about it...

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Now when I wrote that, I thought it was <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com/d/20010728.html" TARGET=_blank>this</A> comic's last panel to which reference was being made, but now it's clear enough on finishing rereading the archives that Shadowrose is having a flashback... (Kit not being in that comic at all, but rather a younger 'Scii.) I think???- so actually I'm not sure what appearance by Kit after Shadow's suicide attempt you were referring to, now...
-Eric Schissel
(Second EDIT- first was just a clarification -...: this should go without saying, but:
if at some point the Schedule from Hell should progress von Inferno nach Purgatorio, allowing you time to forum-browse again, you should in my honest opinion feel under no obligation to respond to all of these posts, threads and 'opics all at once... (if any at all, of course.))
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by **Shadowed Rose** on Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:22 am

Wheee!!! It's afire!!!That strip was the one I was referring to, yes. It's Kit in the last panel, adressing Sah', since Sah's had strong barriers over Shadow's magic abilities, it ought to backlash pretty bad when those barriers are blasted open like that.And trust me, I'm not planning on replying to all this at once. But at all, yes. Some time. Evil schedule. AND they guys bully me for having a pentagram, and thus, in their opinion, am satanist. Hardly.
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<A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/" TARGET=_blank>Alexandra</A>
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Schissel** on Fri Nov 16, 2001 9:06 am

Fools they; can't say as I like fools. (Which I can't help feeling makes me a great hypocrite...)Thanks for the clarification. I saw quite a few answers to quite a few of my recent and not-so-recent questions during my recent 2nd reread of the archives, though, as should now be clear, seeing answers didn't always mean recognizing an answer for one. (Even though the re-traversal included third, fourth, ++ rereads of selected portions of those archives. Enlightenment takes a very long time to hit me, apparently, when it deigns so to do... like recognizing that two other questions have very obvious answers, had I only thought to think, look, and think. *shrug*)Many thanks again. And again, take your time.
With the comic as well, much as I'd like to see what follows on after the last panel of Nov. 12th - well, fans have known longer waits than a mere 4 days, you did say a possibly more or less weekly or biweekly schedule, after all (and I recently started reading a comic that relaunched after a hiatus of somewhat over one year <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> .)-Eric Schissel
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The stars move still
time runs,
the clock will strike- Marlowe

by **Schissel** on Sun Nov 18, 2001 1:33 am

And this is turn has nothing, yes, nothing, to do with the November 4th (or following? hrm- well, maybe) episodes at all, but occurred to me while I was doing my re-traversal of the archives, and again recently... and a desire was expressed by all parties to see this thread grow (Eric surreptitiously sprinkles some plant food on it...)
(Occurred to me when Wendy was suggesting to Viron that she had resources, and wasn't "that" young...)so, without further ado (right.)-
about how old is Wendy
and about what are lifespans like for humans and those of faerie blood (and those with some of each) in the OMW world, lengthwise and subdivided?Just curious and not in a hurry for the answer (which by its nature would be rather involved), may it go without saying.
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The stars move still
time runs,
the clock will strike- Marlowe

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