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by **Schissel** on Wed Nov 07, 2001 1:50 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
The scythe-bearer is still Death in Erigineea, but Cazhar is the faerie equal of him. Kind of the Rat's Death in Pratchett, only not for rats, but for faeries. Or something, I don't know a lot, I only read over a friend's shoulder.
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Yes, you have it right. (Waits for incoming flames pointing out that rats includes other rodents as well... On The Other Hoof, I didn't quite say what I meant, either...)
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The surname thing is something Erinzo, Rel, and Achira's mother's kin practise. Sah' took on "ar Jyn'nemo" after becoming her lover, and Nequii took on his surname after deciding to stay in the world of mortals, to avoid Camael, whose feelings towards him are mutual.
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Ah. (Something about this is still confusing me... ah. Do we know yet anything about Achira's mother and her other family? Even a name? Should I already know this? Yay, the (dis)advantages of four hours sleep...)
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The Paladins just state where they stand, and people tend to follow them. They do not have much power, formally, but in practise, well... What can have more power over people's thoughts than religion?
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Yes; as an author I like often points out, all power relies to some extent- however small the extent or however large- on belief and consent. *g* (Sorry- just something you reminded me of... carry on...)
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*g* Something along those lines, yes. Which is why a certain assassin gets himself in so much trouble when trying to make things right again...
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Ok, I fear you lost me here- for he was, after all, once as professional as they came...
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*snicker* Shadowrose would say the best way to knock R

by **Shadowed Rose** on Wed Nov 07, 2001 12:29 pm

The scythe-bearer is still Death in Erigineea, but Cazhar is the faerie equal of him. Kind of the Rat's Death in Pratchett, only not for rats, but for faeries. Or something, I don't know a lot, I only read over a friend's shoulder.The surname thing is something Erinzo, Rel, and Achira's mother's kin practise. Sah' took on "ar Jyn'nemo" after becoming her lover, and Nequii took on his surname after deciding to stay in the world of mortals, to avoid Camael, whose feelings towards him are mutual.The Paladins just state where they stand, and people tend to follow them. They do not have much power, formally, but in practise, well... What can have more power over people's thoughts than religion?*g* Something along those lines, yes. Which is why a certain assassin gets himself in so much trouble when trying to make things right again...*snicker* Shadowrose would say the best way to knock R

by **Schissel** on Fri Nov 16, 2001 9:50 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
If someone would need R

by **Schissel** on Thu Nov 22, 2001 8:03 am

More egg on my face. Is Imphais Reyviur's mother? (That's why Rey's half-God? Oy...)
"Mess" you say on the cast page. Oh yes indeed, I can't but agree <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> If so- I've said it before: I (fore)see more trouble.
-Eric Schissel

by **Shadowed Rose** on Sun Dec 16, 2001 7:33 am

Oh, looksee, I'm gonna be nice and write a long nice reply...
Achira's mother is the fair Isalaenne (whose surname I don't remember at the moment... Ah, well...), the lady that showed up in The Chosen. And, answering a question somewhere else-from, it wasn't her that Sah' killed, 'twas a lady hmm... Sadira, I think. Wouldn't swear on it, but I think that was her name. I've mentioned it, but it's not like it's had a lot of significance yet, anyways.Ah, yes. But that doesn't mean he can put things right as effortlessly. Not at all. In fact, it almost cost him his neck to try...*giggle* Oh, but it's true. You MIGHT cross Zav once. But never again. Well, except for if you're Kit. It's in children's nature to defy their parents.The shoulder-figures of Shadowrose's are one confused bunch, for the most part. But they know what counts, for the most part. The more the more time that passes. I would not like to see them in an argument in his mid-teens, oh, no...Imphais is R

by **Schissel** on Sun Dec 16, 2001 11:33 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
Oh, looksee, I'm gonna be nice and write a long nice reply...
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And it is appreciated. (Which is not sarcasm.) <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally continued by Shadowed Rose:

Achira's mother is the fair Isalaenne (whose surname I don't remember at the moment... Ah, well...), the lady that showed up in The Chosen.

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And mentioned in chapter 1-17 of OMW (probably elsewhere as well?) and the Keeping Kit Oblivious storyline... (to mention two other places.) Gotcha! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Originally continued (despite much interruption here!) by Shadowed Rose:

And, answering a question somewhere else-from, it wasn't her that Sah' killed, 'twas a lady hmm... Sadira, I think. Wouldn't swear on it, but I think that was her name. I've mentioned it, but it's not like it's had a lot of significance yet, anyways.

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Potentially ominous...!
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> And I expect the original poster is getting somewhat exasperated by those interruptions by now...

Ah, yes. But that doesn't mean he can put things right as effortlessly. Not at all. In fact, it almost cost him his neck to try...

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This is a story I shouldn't mind hearing at some point.
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*giggle* Oh, but it's true. You MIGHT cross Zav once. But never again. Well, except for if you're Kit. It's in children's nature to defy their parents.

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Even rather considerably older than they look (if memory serves!) children, apparently <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
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The shoulder-figures of Shadowrose's are one confused bunch, for the most part. But they know what counts, for the most part. The more the more time that passes. I would not like to see them in an argument in his mid-teens, oh, no...

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Hopefully between then and now he's also had good teachers... very few also learn right and wrong, and priorities, entirely on their own. I oversimplify, not deliberately to flatten out the world, but simply to state the direction of my thought rather than my thought itself...
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Imphais is R

by **Shadowed Rose** on Mon Dec 17, 2001 1:23 am

*giggle* And there. Colone isn't very nice to Sah', oh, no, he ain't.And it is a story I have been trying to write for half a year. Once it gets done, it'll go either on some site or in Raptor, can promise that much. It's... Interesting. Although I doubt a certain assassin would agree with me on that point. Near-death is, despite recent events, not his notion of interesting.Oh? What have I now said? Shadowrose's teachers were few and far between, especially after he slain his father. Don't ask me where he's gotten his manners from. Well... The manners he has in OMW. His current manners (when he choses to show he has them) are partially an effect of aforementioned story.Umm, well, yes. But it's every God's right to take Paladins, if (s)he so choses, and it's up to the God in question to decide who is worthy. That's the simple version of the rules.Haven was supposed to be a haven, and was, for a short while. Sah' had not foreseen getting people like Fen and Rob there (not that he dislikes them, mind you), and he'd forgotten about giving his half-brother the means to find Haven despite not being a Paladin. 
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by **Schissel** on Mon Dec 17, 2001 2:14 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
*giggle* And there. Colone isn't very nice to Sah', oh, no, he ain't.
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I do believe "my" dear late rabbit Cleo thinks he has all the necessary qualifications to be a card-carrying conscience.
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And it is a story I have been trying to write for half a year. Once it gets done, it'll go either on some site or in Raptor, can promise that much. It's... Interesting. Although I doubt a certain assassin would agree with me on that point. Near-death is, despite recent events, not his notion of interesting.

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Leading me to wonder how, if of course this is the tale to which you refer, Shadow got mixed up with Sah' and Sadira, either before or after her demise. Yet more interesting. Assuming always that he is not only a certain assassin, but the particular assassin, "in question" as t'were.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Shadowed Rose perhaps responding to my silly mangling of quote statements...
Oh? What have I now said?

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(Wondering if Shadowed Rose might be perhaps responding to my silly mangling of quote statements, as others have since the early days of Keenspot but has taken me forever to get nearly right, by way of mild (inane, really...) humor and to add light variety... but no, I wasn't responding to anything you'd said in so doing.)
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Shadowrose's teachers were few and far between, especially after he slain his father. Don't ask me where he's gotten his manners from. Well... The manners he has in OMW. His current manners (when he choses to show he has them) are partially an effect of aforementioned story.

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And now I begin to wonder if that story involves Sah', Shadow, Sadira (deceased or alive), and Irooz.
Shot in the dark, as it's said.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally explained by Shadowed Rose:

Umm, well, yes. But it's every God's right to take Paladins, if (s)he so choses, and it's up to the God in question to decide who is worthy. That's the simple version of the rules.

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This is true. Of course, if Imphais has such difficulty distinguishing between her son, on the one hand, and worthy Paladin material, on the other, I have some suggestions.
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Haven was supposed to be a haven, and was, for a short while. Sah' had not foreseen getting people like Fen and Rob there (not that he dislikes them, mind you), and he'd forgotten about giving his half-brother the means to find Haven despite not being a Paladin. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, whatever Sah's feelings towards Shadow, I get the impression he does defend the place well (or is it that people truly think he brings more problems than he fends off? Like that ol'comic book theory that it's the towns with superheros that start also having the supervillains, too? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> )Eric Schissel
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by **Schissel** on Sat Dec 22, 2001 2:58 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
*giggle* They all help trying to keep me on the right track. Most of the time, they fail miserably.

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Hrm- then you still have more... conscientious consciences (that is the subject?) then Cleo here (hey! (If. Shoe. Fits.)) who seems to be more interested in gag gags.
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I was referring to the deal with Shadow almost losing his neck. Bad luck, that one has. You'll eventually meet his guardian angel...

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Sounds almost reified... or even, perhaps...
Hrrrmmmmm. At first I had thought you were speaking almost metaphorically. Now I am most unsure.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> And yet further explained by Shadowed Rose:

And as for the "What have I now said?", I was referring to

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(Well, I was referring to Kit in the excerpt that UBB refuses to inner-quote- Kiyat the child who's older than he looks, or so I seem to believe I recall.) <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Shadowed Rose says of Imphais:

*g* Well, but she can say he's worthy Paladin material all she likes, the other Gods won't question her. So... R

by **Shadowed Rose** on Sat Dec 22, 2001 11:29 am

*giggle* They all help trying to keep me on the right track. Most of the time, they fail miserably.I was referring to the deal with Shadow almost losing his neck. Bad luck, that one has. You'll eventually meet his guardian angel...And as for the "What have I now said?", I was referring to <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Even rather considerably older than they look (if memory serves!) children, apparently <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>*g* Well, but she can say he's worthy Paladin material all she likes, the other Gods won't question her. So... R

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