Musings: Paladins' Haven Zine?

Postby Schissel on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:18 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>I did write a reply to this, I know I did.
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You probably did. My memory has never been good, and with my sleep schedule wonky for the last month, it's been worse than ever...
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The room was his first, as in before Rob and Fen moved in to share it with him. And, well... The explanation they find is something related to something you've noted somewhere else. Won't go further into it.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Gotcha. Hope you're feeling better now.
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:23 am

I am. Thank you for your concern. The strip should be updated now, if it wasn't already.<P>And UBB being wonky has nothing to do with your memory, that I can see.
Then again, I had so many strange semi-nightmares last night, I may well have dreamed I replied, too.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:47 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>I am. Thank you for your concern. The strip should be updated now, if it wasn't already.
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Yep, it is- quite a good one.
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And UBB being wonky has nothing to do with your memory, that I can see.
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UBB? It's my sleep patterns that have been off for weeks, I fear with the question of sufficient sleep catch as catch can many days (thankfully not all.) UBB's always been wonky - independent issue <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> (I'm glad they may eventually be replacing it.)
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Then again, I had so many strange semi-nightmares last night, I may well have dreamed I replied, too.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Very sorry to hear about the nightmares, and do hope you eventually got sufficient rest. (And that you've been enjoying your week.)
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Postby Schissel on Fri Nov 02, 2001 4:03 am

Ahhhh. "UBB wonky" <-> bulletin board lost your reply in the mails. Gotcha. (Eric goes to body shoppe, asks about memory and brain replacement for 'self. Gets an... <I>odd</I> look. Goes to computer store to ask about same. The body shoppe must have phoned ahead.)
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Postby Schissel on Sun Nov 04, 2001 2:43 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>*nod* Let me agree on that, UBB has just gone more and more crazy lately, it seems.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't doubt it - I do wonder about it. (I.e. what's causing it and why now, and I hope they replace TDT soon though doing so is, granted, a <B>lot</B> of work.)<P>(There's more problems to UBB than just the file locking I mention in the other thread- serious overloading when it tries to open too many files at once, things like that. Unfortunately the KBB mailing list archives seem to have been taken down; some of these issues were discussed there, since knowing what kinds of problems came up with this board might have been helpful in building in fault tolerance (is that the term?) for the new one. Oh well. I guess I'm not the only one who quit that project...)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><P>Thank you dearly for that. Next strip is hopefully going up tomorrow, if not, it's updating normally Tuesday.
New update schedule starts this Sunday, most likely.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You're welcome <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> .
And again, best luck with all.
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sun Nov 04, 2001 11:15 am

I get annoyed with these bulletin boards, yes I do. Sorry 'bout the late strips lately, bad planning on my part, mostly.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Sun Nov 04, 2001 11:36 am

I was part of a project to create an alternative to UBB for ... some time before just giving up under the pressure of other work; trying to keep the different elements just of my part of the bulletin board program separate in my mind and envisioning everything that was involved rather overwhelmed me. The sooner they switch (if they do, as they are apparently planning to do, as I certainly hope they do) to phpBB the happier I for one will be...<P>No problem here about the late episodes (well, as a reader I enjoy the comic too much to say blithely <I>no</I> problem, but you know what I mean, I hope <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> ... things can wait...) and after all I do see the November 4 comic is now up - and not what I was expecting either. (What was I expecting... hrm. ... not for Irooz to be released again so soon... not under these circumstances - and now I wait for the next episode *g* )<P>-Eric Schissel
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sun Nov 04, 2001 12:02 pm

*nod* Let me agree on that, UBB has just gone more and more crazy lately, it seems.<P>Thank you dearly for that. Next strip is hopefully going up tomorrow, if not, it's updating normally Tuesday.
New update schedule starts this Sunday, most likely.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Mon Nov 05, 2001 2:42 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>*nodnod* Think I understand, then. Still, there are things I like about UBB, such as the threads jumping to the top when there are new replies in them. When they don't, and don't have the thread-construction good ol' InsideTheWeb boards had, back in those days, it's pretty impossible to keep track of anything.
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Recommendation:
if you want to see what a phpBB board in operation looks like, go <A HREF="http://atp.cx/absurdnotions/" TARGET=_blank>here</A> (there was another, at nightstar.net , that I liked, but it seems to be gone now alas; <B>this</B> one is for discussion of the comic <A HREF="http://www.absurdnotions.org" TARGET=_blank>Absurd Notions</A> and related projects. I'm sure there are other phpBB boards on the net, likely lots, but that's the one (those were the two) I know of...)
(EDIT the first: as to the nightstar.net "zoo," and its peregrinations, see <A HREF="http://www.keenspot.com/KeenBoard/Forum40/HTML/001170.html" TARGET=_blank>this</A> thread - I, anyhow, certainly hope it's back up, on some server, soon; it was an interesting place.)<P>As to Inside the Web, I've never seen an ITW message board (does some google searching, sees references to a few but is unable to connect for various javascript reasons, sees that the boards he was looking at recently that did a fine job of making his copy of Netscape wish it were splattered over his screen were IGN boards or somesuch and not the same thing at all... ok, I'm all confused, what else is new.)
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Thanks. Hopefully, all shall be well. We'll see how taxing new schedule is once it's in action... And hopefully, I get Art as my chosen class this semester. I'd hate to have more Physics, even in the shape of Astronomy. Partially 'cause that'd mean that except for gym class, I'd have Physics all day on Mondays. Which would be pretty unpleasant.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Yes, it would. Aspera ad non astra!
Or something.<P>(Hey, I liked astronomy!
But you never had to study it. Just read about it in books.
Hrm. Point.)<P>(EDIT the second:
Well, I was always more partial to mathematics. Gave me room to be at once hyperbolic and elliptic, both as are my wont.)<P>-Eric Schissel<p>[This message has been edited by schissel (edited 11-06-2001).]
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Mon Nov 05, 2001 10:21 am

*nodnod* Think I understand, then. Still, there are things I like about UBB, such as the threads jumping to the top when there are new replies in them. When they don't, and don't have the thread-construction good ol' InsideTheWeb boards had, back in those days, it's pretty impossible to keep track of anything.<P>Thanks. Hopefully, all shall be well. We'll see how taxing new schedule is once it's in action... And hopefully, I get Art as my chosen class this semester. I'd hate to have more Physics, even in the shape of Astronomy. Partially 'cause that'd mean that except for gym class, I'd have Physics all day on Mondays. Which would be pretty unpleasant.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Fri Nov 09, 2001 3:02 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>Indeed. Mentally ill-balanced is not the first thing I'd come to think of when faced with Jaq. Now, nymphomanic...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hrm. Though not only Jaq but many others you might find familiar will kill (and maim, and ...) me for mentioning this, Michael Chabon in a very fine novel I read of his recently (<B>The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay</B>) has a metaphor (can't find it now, but it's a 600-page novel) about the sort of behavior usually associated with ... erm...
(ducks... morituri te salutant, etc. ... oh dear...) "estrous chinchillas."<P>*canters off really fast and tries to hide in the forest*
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Postby Schissel on Tue Nov 13, 2001 10:53 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally confuzzled by schissel:
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Considering that one of the three in the teaser is befurred and two aren't (unless that one is a bondmount or other animal, sentient or otherwise, but not a Paladin or other howsoever human, faerie, divine, or whathaveyou...) I'm also guessing that the Curse might have acted over a period of
time instead of all at once. But... don't know.
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Ok, it took a while, but I <I>did</I> eventually puzzle this one out, honest...
(seriously embarrassed that it took even this long to do so, for it does seem quite obvious, now, that two of the three figures in the teaser are meant to be Jaq, one pre-curse, and one post-. Why I didn't "get" that to begin with... dunno.)
-Eric Schissel no more lucid at 2 am than later in the day or earlier, alas.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Sat Nov 17, 2001 8:24 am

"Raptor" - nice title, that. May I ask what leads to it?
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sat Nov 17, 2001 8:42 am

<A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com/d/20010426.html">This</A> leads to the name, of course.<P>*giggle* As for the chinchillas... Not saying it's not accurate. Not at all. They're harder to get to breed than rabbits, yes, but... *snerk* <P>Yes, both of them are Jaq. She's looking in a mirror, in fact. I love that pic, turned out Very Good.<P>Astronomy was a moot point, anyways, as I got Art. Wheee!!! Art class!<P>And when you're in High School and have a very troublesome life, Maths is just, well, evil. <P>
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Postby Schissel on Sat Nov 17, 2001 9:27 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally reminded by Shadowed Rose:
<B><A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com/d/20010426.html">This</A> leads to the name, of course.
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Ah, right *chuckle*
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*giggle* As for the chinchillas... Not saying it's not accurate. Not at all. They're harder to get to breed than rabbits, yes, but... *snerk*
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Small army of letterwriters to Mr. Chabon called off: check.
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Yes, both of them are Jaq. She's looking in a mirror, in fact. I love that pic, turned out Very Good.
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Perhaps that explains the screaming *g* And yes, it is excellent from what I can tell...
(Ok, <I>I</I> think she looks nice as a squirrel, but if she prefers to remain human that's her lookout... it is a Curse, after all, it's supposed to be cursy.)
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Astronomy was a moot point, anyways, as I got Art. Wheee!!! Art class!
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Yay!
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And when you're in High School and have a very troublesome life, Maths is just, well, evil.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<I>Hey</I>, that's my old subject you're talking about...well, the one they sort of in a manner of speaking kicked me out of. Talk on <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> Erm, anyway.<P>(Decides that this is not the time for a pun on the post heading, and cuts his losses *g* !)
Thanks again and best!
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Postby Schissel on Sun Nov 18, 2001 8:42 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally though quite some while ago posted by Shadowed Rose:
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And, well... The explanation they find is something related to something you've noted somewhere else. Won't go further into it.
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Well, I guess it (the explanation they discover for the Curse, and why it's related to something I mentioned "somewhere else") will either come to me, or it won't. No ideas have come my way yet, and I'm not going to ask for spoilers even if you <I>hadn't</I> said you weren't going to give any <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> ...
Good luck finding a means of distribution/payment system for <B>Raptor</B> once completed- and I hope it's not rude of me to ask about the intended price-range?
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sun Nov 18, 2001 9:56 am

*snicker* Ask Maboo about the chinchillas. *g*<P>Yah, well, an uncursy curse wouldn't be of much use, now would it? And, well... To suddenly discover you're a squirrel is not on Jaqueleen's top ten. No, indeed. *g* Getting a certain redheaded assassin in her bed is, however... Fear the evil plotting nymphomanic Paladin!<P>Oh! PUN!!! Pun! Yes, do pun! It's so, umm... punny! and all, eh... pun-like. Yes. That's it.<P>Not rude at all, lovely, and, well... It's not much. Enough to cover shipping, printing (if my dad decides to charge me for using the color printer. Which is how the first issue, at the very least, will be printed.) and then a tiny bit to round the sum up. Somewhere there. Within Sweden, I'm likely to charge in stamps, but outside, there's not that option.<P>I would use PayPal, but their TOS say I can't get the money out, so the money would stay on the 'net, practically unusable, and I'd still have to take money for stamps out of my own pocket.<P>Yaay... Let's discriminate the Swedes!<P>
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:02 pm

Also... Before I go to bed... Thought to ask...<P>What information should I make sure to include about the races, hmm? <P>And if the cartoonist of Flipside (linked on the bookmarks page, too tired to find the link now) says it's okay, and I make character interviews like he's done on there, who would you like to ask questions to, first?<P>Suggestions! Suggestions!<P>
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Postby Schissel on Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:12 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>*snicker* Ask Maboo about the chinchillas. *g*
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Far too long since I've spoken with him about anything, alas <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"> ... but I might, at that.
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Yah, well, an uncursy curse wouldn't be of much use, now would it? And, well... To suddenly discover you're a squirrel is not on Jaqueleen's top ten. No, indeed. *g* Getting a certain redheaded assassin in her bed is, however... Fear the evil plotting nymphomanic Paladin!
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And I'm still trying to figure out how evil and Paladin fit in the same sentence (even "evil" evil <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> ), and looking forward to that storyline, even though Jaq and Shadowrose will only be in part of it.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><P>Oh! PUN!!! Pun! Yes, do pun! It's so, umm... punny! and all, eh... pun-like. Yes. That's it.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>*sighs* *looks weary and put-upon* joy and raptor...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Not rude at all, lovely, and, well... It's not much. Enough to cover shipping, printing (if my dad decides to charge me for using the color printer. Which is how the first issue, at the very least, will be printed.) and then a tiny bit to round the sum up. Somewhere there. Within Sweden, I'm likely to charge in stamps, but outside, there's not that option.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Collectible stamps or regular *ow!*
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I would use PayPal, but their TOS say I can't get the money out, so the money would stay on the 'net, practically unusable, and I'd still have to take money for stamps out of my own pocket.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>(Thinks me, as well for me anyway, I can only use check or credit card... no PayPal account...)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Yaay... Let's discriminate the Swedes!<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And with money orders coming in from another country there's generally a conversion rate as I recall (from purchasing a large item (musical score) from Britain a few years back whose cost was increased by said fee...)<P>Good luck with logistics!<P>-Eric Schissel
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Postby Schissel on Mon Nov 19, 2001 1:00 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally clarified by Shadowed Rose:
<B>There. Look on the front page now to see what I meant with changing it. Doesn't look that pretty, but I wasn't feeling like messing about with it too much. La.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ah!
Looks nice, in fact (well, except for the missing images, of course, but you explain that!) and I do understand now. Hope lots of people vote early and vote often... erm... I mean... sorry, <B>old</B> joke... vote, anyhow!!<P>-Eric Schissel<P>(Who had his reasons for excluding Sah' from the list: not a desire to exclude Sah' per se- just a preference for others over Sah'- would be delighted to see Sah' and others, as I said, interviewed, but personal preference would be for - in later issues.)
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