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by **Schissel** on Thu Oct 25, 2001 4:14 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
If I remember correctly, the male gryphon has fiery mane and horns, and the gryphon has wings. Think it was so, but I don't have the book right here at the moment, so I'm not sure.I'm very deeply interested in heraldry, overall, not a lot of literature on the theory of it aviable here, so I was in seventh heaven when I found two of them in England. One of them I bought with me home. Very nice pictures, and text. Yesss.And now I'm going to attempt get something done of the race guide.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ah, ok. Thanks. Unfortunately about all I know about heraldry at the moment is that it does have very nice imagery, extremely intriguing terminology/syntax (and perhaps enough more to make the notion of a heraldic hippo mildly amusing, but that's another story and there's reasons behind that anyway.)Always nice to be able to bring something nice back from a trip abroad (sudden nostalgic reminiscence on my part of visits to England and France which, I will admit, did not turn up anything nearly as neat, truncated out of existence...)In regards the race guide, Wendy seemed to be under the impression (Azyr's comment, July 8) that there were no Wozelles in all of Erigineea (a large area, I get the impression) which if true or even almost true (outside of Haven) is somewhat surprising and at the least interesting...-Eric Schissel

by **Schissel** on Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:46 am

Mention of Nequii and the Sept 27 '01 comic makes me think a bit. Of these, would it be friendship, kinship, or the need for safety (not from death, as he is immortal, but from other forms of danger) that accounts for Nequii's remaining in Haven (a good deal of the time, not all, of course) when he might be somewhere else instead? (This is assuming the answer isn't inertia or momentum, take pick.) Finding myself curious and interested in any answer that isn't spoily (the question may well have been answered already, but I recognize in myself that I am badly unperceptive.)
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The stars move still
time runs,
the clock will strike- Marlowe

by **Shadowed Rose** on Thu Oct 25, 2001 5:53 am

Not that strange if there were no 'zelles in Erigineea, really. There's REALLY high mountains between it and Lands of the Orders, with like two commonly used passes and no more than a handful ones that are no longer in use because of risk of falling rocks or because they're too narrow for most traders. And the dragons in Dragon Mountains tend to act quite hostile when they think they have intruders. Like, attack first and ask questions to the ashes, type hostile. Especially at the time of OMW and later, because of the general upset mood in the East of the mountains.
And wozelles natively live very far East in the Lands of the Orders, the only ones that get near the Erigineean Border are bondmounts of knights or Bonded of travellers. And since wozelles don't like dragons (in 'the wild', if one can speak of such regarding sentient beings, they hunt dragons and gryphons, and dragons and gryphons hunt them), their Bonded or bondriders tend to respect their wishes to remain at the 'right' side of the ridge.
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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by **Schissel** on Thu Oct 25, 2001 6:06 am

Which explains much. I assume Zvee and Shadowrose weren't Bonded at the time of OMW (or, at least, during its first Part)? I can only assume further that there's a story in their meeting and Bonding (gads, I sound like a dentist (stop that. (?) (well, you could have said chemist.) (That would have been better?) (Sigh.))); I do look forward to hearing it, as it sounds to be a good one <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> (looking forward patiently, though.)-Eric Schissel (please excuse a certain Running Commentary while I proceed to thwap it off my shoulder)

by **Shadowed Rose** on Fri Oct 26, 2001 12:18 am

Shadowrose and Zvee Bond somewhere during the course of OMW, not even I am sure exactly when. Zvee is, by the way, Iony's and... hmm... Was it Roxyn, his name was? son. You'll see, if I ever get there...Nequii is in Haven because the precense of another group of deities altogether gives him a little protection from Camael. Since Camael hates him, and he has dangerously few people who believe in him, he's in a very sensitive position. Gods become mortal when thye no longer have any followers, unless they, like R

by **Schissel** on Fri Oct 26, 2001 1:27 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
Shadowrose and Zvee Bond somewhere during the course of OMW, not even I am sure exactly when. Zvee is, by the way, Iony's and... hmm... Was it Roxyn, his name was? son. You'll see, if I ever get there...
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Very interesting, and I certainly remember Iony. (Though this by itself doesn't say whether Zvee had been born by the time Iony was introduced in OMW, naturally, so offers this reader no clues as to the latter's fate in unwritten episodes <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> ) <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
Nequii is in Haven because the precense of another group of deities altogether gives him a little protection from Camael. Since Camael hates him, and he has dangerously few people who believe in him, he's in a very sensitive position. Gods become mortal when thye no longer have any followers, unless they, like R

by **Shadowed Rose** on Fri Oct 26, 2001 3:55 am

Oh, true that, you don't have a clue as to what happens to Zvee in OMW. I only know it roughly, myself, so... As for Nequii... 'Follower' was a bad choice of words. They know he's there, and they know he's a God, and that's what counts, in this situation. Which doesn't say that Camael isn't hell of a lot stronger, but long as Neq stays in Haven, he tends to be left alone. Most of the time. Too much trouble to argue with other deities about trespassing.
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Schissel** on Fri Oct 26, 2001 4:12 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
Oh, true that, you don't have a clue as to what happens to Zvee in OMW. I only know it roughly, myself, so...As for Nequii... 'Follower' was a bad choice of words. They know he's there, and they know he's a God, and that's what counts, in this situation. Which doesn't say that Camael isn't hell of a lot stronger, but long as Neq stays in Haven, he tends to be left alone. Most of the time. Too much trouble to argue with other deities about trespassing.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hrm. Trespassing on Haven (as seems from context- did Sah' get that sort of agreement from the Gods as well when the place was constructed?...) or another kind of trespassing altogether (is there some other deity with a grudge against Nequii we don't know about who would be annoyed if Camael started in on him? No, that doesn't make very much sense...)

As to the Silver Guardian (Guardians, it seems...) where do they rank into the scheme of things, if I may ask? (Guardians of the Legions of the Dead, perhaps? A comment of "Silver"'s rather stays in the mind.)-Eric Schissel
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The stars move still
time runs,
the clock will strike- Marlowe

by **Schissel** on Fri Oct 26, 2001 11:06 am

Trespassing- ah right, since some of the residents of Haven are at least partially deities themselves, it's them Camael would be arguing with. Sorry, I wasn't thinking any too clearly.What is with Keensp* today? Almost as funky as my older Macintosh and that is really saying something.I wonder. Camael has already kidnapped Nequii once(September '01 storyline)- it probably helped that Haven's population was severely depleted at the time and those who were there somewhat otherwise occupied, or was Nequii even in Haven at all when kidnapped? (And the line I was looking for was indeed "release my souls on your people"- September 23- and if Wendy is (still?) owed favors by something that has trusteeship over souls, then... hrm. Multiple reasons to be afraid- is the first thing to come to mind?)
(And I now see, paying closer attention- in part because the word was unfamiliar to me when I first saw it- that Silver mentioned Duhdrra when he returned with Nequii. About getting a dozen of them from the Islands being an easier task. Hrm? Are there only 11 of them there? <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> )
-Eric Schissel------------------
The stars move still
time runs,
the clock will strike- Marlowe

by **Shadowed Rose** on Sun Oct 28, 2001 12:56 am

Sah' got a lot of help and agreements with the Gods in general. They owe him a favour or three, so...
Now the only favour he'd like to get from them was to make his brother straight. I know 'Rose said most faeries are tolerant, however, neither Sah' or his father belonged to them. Ah, but he doesn't understand...The Silver Guardian is set to guard the entrance from the Neitherplains to the world where souls wait to be reborn. These souls, should they escape, are not-quite-ghosts, with very instinct-like memories of their previous lives. If someone treated them extremely badly, they'd go for maiming and killing, but that's exception rather than rule. For the most part, it's their precense that is unnerving and stressing, and scares wildlife away quite effectively. Rioletth meets him in, I think, chapter 1-2 of OMW.Nequii was, indeed, in Haven at the time. He was still female, after all. *snicker* "Sylver" doesn't owe Wendy any favours, he just likes her. She met him by accident (likely having injured herself or accidentally indulged some potent poison) when she was somewhere along fifteen or so years of age, and has visited him from time to time after that, despite his pleas that she doesn't.There are no Duhdrrani at all on the Islands, 'cause they originate in the desert east of Lands of the Orders, and wouldn't get on a boat to save their lives, like to have sturdy ground under their feet. Just a hair harder to get Duhdrrani there than taking down the moon on a platter.------------------
<A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/" TARGET=_blank>Alexandra</A>
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Schissel** on Sun Oct 28, 2001 3:37 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
Sah' got a lot of help and agreements with the Gods in general. They owe him a favour or three, so...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ah, ok.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
Now the only favour he'd like to get from them was to make his brother straight. I know 'Rose said most faeries are tolerant, however, neither Sah' or his father belonged to them. Ah, but he doesn't understand...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hrm- despite being related to Sah' then many of the residents of Haven in the present storyline (such as are related to Sah', that is) are generally not of Faerie heritage? Entirely too many of them unfortunately seem to have shown themselves intolerant and unloving in recent storymonths... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
The Silver Guardian is set to guard the entrance from the Neitherplains to the world where souls wait to be reborn. These souls, should they escape, are not-quite-ghosts, with very instinct-like memories of their previous lives. If someone treated them extremely badly, they'd go for maiming and killing, but that's exception rather than rule. For the most part, it's their precense that is unnerving and stressing, and scares wildlife away quite effectively. Rioletth meets him in, I think, chapter 1-2 of OMW.
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<IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/redface.gif"> Oh, right... something of that's coming back to me now. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
Nequii was, indeed, in Haven at the time. He was still female, after all. *snicker* "Sylver" doesn't owe Wendy any favours, he just likes her. She met him by accident (likely having injured herself or accidentally indulged some potent poison) when she was somewhere along fifteen or so years of age, and has visited him from time to time after that, despite his pleas that she doesn't.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
(Leading me to wonder if there's a way to "visit" the Silver Guardian besides near-death experience... of which Wendy may well have had more than one at that. Hrm. Was she an Assassin, or just well-known around the Guild? Of course, nothing self-contradictory about being an Assassin and prone to dangerous experiments, or being an Assassin and frightening the other Assassins (mind flashes to a certain character from Pratchett's Hogfather))
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
There are no Duhdrrani at all on the Islands, 'cause they originate in the desert east of Lands of the Orders, and wouldn't get on a boat to save their lives, like to have sturdy ground under their feet. Just a hair harder to get Duhdrrani there than taking down the moon on a platter.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ahh.
Gotcha. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> Apologies, was a puzzlement.
-Eric SchisselThat time may cease
and midnight never come

by **Shadowed Rose** on Sun Oct 28, 2001 9:06 am

Hmm... The only three that stayed in Haven 'cept for Shadowrose himself were Achira, Erinzo and Relevan, were they not? And Nequii, but he doesn't mind. Those three former were raised by their mother, in a very homophobic environment. So that accounts for 'Chira and Rel's reactions.There are, indeed, other (and better) ways to visit the Silver Guardian than near-death. He's one of the spirits shamans like to ask about things. Mostly because he can let them talk to the souls, if he's in that mood. And shamans are smarter than to swallow poison for that chance.*giggle* Wendy was an Assassin, alright. A very whimsy and giggly and dangerously curious one. And noone scares the other Assassins like her. Not even Shadowrose, and that's not bad, seeing as he killed the last Guildsmaster (which he wasn't supposed to do, but, hey, he wasn't formally in the Guild quite yet, so... They couldn't kill him for it, and the old man had already sworn he'd get in, so in he got...) and a bunch of specialist mercs that are as close to Assassins as one can get and still work as a company.------------------
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Schissel** on Sun Oct 28, 2001 9:50 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
Hmm... The only three that stayed in Haven 'cept for Shadowrose himself were Achira, Erinzo and Relevan, were they not? And Nequii, but he doesn't mind. Those three former were raised by their mother, in a very homophobic environment. So that accounts for 'Chira and Rel's reactions.
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Ah, right, this was mentioned in the comic and I should have remembered that.
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There are, indeed, other (and better) ways to visit the Silver Guardian than near-death. He's one of the spirits shamans like to ask about things.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hrm. Tangentially: you mentioned that there was one spirit that Irooz could still contact even without her powers. It makes some sense that she could stay in communication with the Silver Guardian in her present state, so perhaps he's the one spirit she could talk to both now and before Shadowrose killed her former body?
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
Mostly because he can let them talk to the souls, if he's in that mood. And shamans are smarter than to swallow poison for that chance.
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Possibly one-way tickets are ... well, erm, how to put it? *g* ... yes, I see your point...
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
*giggle* Wendy was an Assassin, alright. A very whimsy and giggly and dangerously curious one. And noone scares the other Assassins like her. Not even Shadowrose, and that's not bad, seeing as he killed the last Guildsmaster (which he wasn't supposed to do, but, hey, he wasn't formally in the Guild quite yet, so... They couldn't kill him for it, and the old man had already sworn he'd get in, so in he got...) and a bunch of specialist mercs that are as close to Assassins as one can get and still work as a company.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Interesting final exam there, Shadowrose- erm, never mind. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/redface.gif">
Intriguing, all that!
-Eric SchisselThat time may cease
and midnight never come

by **Shadowed Rose** on Sun Oct 28, 2001 10:18 am

You'll meet the spirit Irooz can talk to... Some time. Dunno. The Guardian isn't exactly a spirit, he exists on the physical plane, too, as a very apathic silver dragon.*g* Possibly one-way tickets clash with wanting to acctually use the information you get. Well, noone accused him of tact, now did they? Only reason he's up and about are insane amounts of luck and the fact everyone's afraid of him.
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<A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/" TARGET=_blank>Alexandra</A>
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Schissel** on Sun Oct 28, 2001 12:08 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
You'll meet the spirit Irooz can talk to... Some time. Dunno. The Guardian isn't exactly a spirit, he exists on the physical plane, too, as a very apathic silver dragon.
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Silver dragons aren't the most volatile of creatures normally anyway, are they? (Vague memory, may be totally off-base...) So a very apathetic one... goodness.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
*g* Possibly one-way tickets clash with wanting to acctually use the information you get.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hrrrrmmm.
Practical.
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Well, noone accused him of tact, now did they? Only reason he's up and about are insane amounts of luck and the fact everyone's afraid of him.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Good luck (at times) now to balance bad at earlier, then. Though I've never been a great believer in the inevitability of balance...Given a choice (which few of us get) I wonder what attitude-towards-him he would prefer, at that... he gets fear, for the most part, a few people excepted, but what, I wonder, does he want?-Eric SchisselTo-night it would be well, my soul, to glide
on soft and quick wings towards the sea of light, the white!
And fade in quiet light and golden peace within,
and die in this light - freed from dream and memory!

by **Schissel** on Mon Oct 29, 2001 1:32 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
Oh, I don't know. Long as they aren't cold, that particular species of dragon are pretty active. The Silver Guardian, however, is not.
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My mistake, then. Hrm. Trying to remember if we've seen him interact with Zvee (actually, is there any particular reason for wozelle-dragon enmity beyond fairly "typical" predator-prey relationships?)
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'Rose always had something of good luck. In a very twisted way. His childhood was less than unpleasant, but he survived it relatively unharmed, fellow Assassins were to kill him, but he survived, if barely, he was to be hanged for murder, and was saved with the rope around his neck and good on the way to suffocating, so on.
Has a very busy guardian angel, that one.
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Erm, sounds it. He pressed his luck pretty close recently (with some canine-divine help...) though...
(Wondering about this revelation, too, that Zvee is no longer sufficient anchor for him, or is that the other way around... does 'Rose now need to bond with two Bondmounts or souls to keep him alive, or am I misunderstanding?) <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
I suspect he'd prefer plain respect, between equals, to fear. He's been in a situation where he feared people for having the ability to hurt him, and he rather he not put others in that same situation.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>*nod* Hopefully not too much to aspire to in Haven...
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
Which doesn't mean he likes the attitude some people have sported towards him lately.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Right... <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif">-Eric Schissel

by **Shadowed Rose** on Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:43 am

Oh, I don't know. Long as they aren't cold, that particular species of dragon are pretty active. The Silver Guardian, however, is not. 'Rose always had something of good luck. In a very twisted way. His childhood was less than unpleasant, but he survived it relatively unharmed, fellow Assassins were to kill him, but he survived, if barely, he was to be hanged for murder, and was saved with the rope around his neck and good on the way to suffocating, so on.
Has a very busy guardian angel, that one.I suspect he'd prefer plain respect, between equals, to fear. He's been in a situation where he feared people for having the ability to hurt him, and he rather he not put others in that same situation.
Which doesn't mean he likes the attitude some people have sported towards him lately.
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<A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/" TARGET=_blank>Alexandra</A>
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Schissel** on Tue Oct 30, 2001 3:24 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
Well, seeing as both dragons and wozelles are sentient, there's grounds for pretty deep-rooted hatred, there. Just thinking of how much (some) people hate sharks and lions/tigers for what a few of them have done.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
(A bit conflicted as to sharks, since it has been pointed out to me that we've proven far more dangerous to them than they to us over the years, but I admit I do fear them...) Anyhow, thanks.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>
Oh, Shadow's luck is always pretty close-pressed. We'll see what he thinks of it in a future storyline.
Bonded, not bondmount. And no, that is not what 'Thrainem meant, it was more of that 'Rose loves Zvee dearly, and Zvee telling him to stay alive made him at least stop fighting the Healing. But as she said, too, just loving Zvee was hardly enough this time, and might be too little if it happens again.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ah ok, that explains it.Unfortunately still something(s?) I don't understand about that arc, but I do think I will in time. Happens. I know myself not to pick up things except gradually.
-Eric Schissel

by **Shadowed Rose** on Tue Oct 30, 2001 10:55 am

Well, seeing as both dragons and wozelles are sentient, there's grounds for pretty deep-rooted hatred, there. Just thinking of how much (some) people hate sharks and lions/tigers for what a few of them have done. Oh, Shadow's luck is always pretty close-pressed. We'll see what he thinks of it in a future storyline.
Bonded, not bondmount. And no, that is not what 'Thrainem meant, it was more of that 'Rose loves Zvee dearly, and Zvee telling him to stay alive made him at least stop fighting the Healing. But as she said, too, just loving Zvee was hardly enough this time, and might be too little if it happens again.
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<A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/" TARGET=_blank>Alexandra</A>
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

by **Shadowed Rose** on Wed Oct 31, 2001 10:29 am

The reason this thing is so long, in the first place, is that I gained understanding of the concept of dropping clues. And I instantly fell in love with it. Slow storytelling is a lot more rewarding, I think.
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<A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/" TARGET=_blank>Alexandra</A>
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"It's like picking a lock."..."Oh, right. Sir Zathor Honesty hasn't picked many locks in his days, has he?"
-Shadowrose, OMW IV: Wozelle's Wings
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Go read <A HREF="http://www.crosswinds.net/~goldquill/haven.html" TARGET=_blank>LaL</A>. You know you want to. If CW is still dead, read <A HREF="http://paladin.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Paladins' Haven</A> instead. Yesss.

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