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Postby Schissel on Sun Oct 21, 2001 10:14 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Acheron:
<B>Since this seems to have been missed:<P>In reference to the Curse, schissel said:Well, not unless Nequii is the exception, I suppose...<P>Nequii didn't escape the Curse. Gender change.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>*Erp*
I meant, if Gods *do* escape the Curse (the context was "Not even Gods escape the Curse." to which that was my response,) then Nequii is the exception to that escape clause.<P>Sorry for being unclear <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Sun Oct 21, 2001 11:40 am

The massive requirement of a lot of magic is why he waited until he had enough favours to collect with the Gods before he Founded Haven. And the reason he generally tries to have someone helping him *coughShadowrosecoughcough* when he moves Haven. I have no idea how the hell he managed to get the Army to agree to let their mailraptors be used for Haven's mail, too, most likely the favours are in exchange for taking a bit of the Erigineean Border off their hands for a while. <P>Wendy needed to get to Haven because it was her job to go there with the nice diplomat. No particular reason, really, but as long as you're not out to hurt someone in Haven, or are acting selfishly, the Gods are generally quite generous. Apparently they thought it was selfish of Fenni to try and protect her girlfriend, since they had to chase shadows for months before finding a Paladin resident in Haven that would take them there. Gods have twisted logic.<P>The Assassins' Guild in Avelyon (or any other town, what that matters, but Avelyon and whatever-the-town-was-called-where-'Rose-grew-up are the only two Shadow's been in contact with) more or less collects money from its members and gives the people that hires through them certain assurances. The victim does get killed. Shadow is skilled and notorious enough to get along without the Guild, except for the tiiiny thing that the Guild wouldn't like that, and would try to kill him soon as they had a chance...
And Shadowrose's reasons for being an assassin are Very Good reasons. Don't think you know them all. Unless, of course, you managed to pick up the clues I've dropped here and there...<P>And Gods do NOT escape the Curse. Camael is turned into a phoenix, Imphais a Golden Dragon, 'Thrainem an <I>Irana</I>, wyrm I think that is in English, Uwghlock shrinks down to a 'normal', if large, fox, Keithara is a mule, or, more likely, an ass (as in the long-eared equines), Keiddi turns into rock, and I'm debating turning Arvounij of Fire into a flaming flying fish or betta...
The only one who could escape the Curse is me, and I dun wannae, so it's a moot point. <P>*snicker* Officially, I'm not online right now, 'cause officially, I'm writing slash.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Mon Oct 22, 2001 12:21 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>*grrr* Had a long and wordy reply written, and it DARES come out as "Page not found". Hrrmph. Like ITW, back in those days.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>(Looks up a page, finds a Law on the Perversity of Inanimate Objects, and very much sympathizes.)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Hmm...<P>The Gods were having Robin and Fenni chasing shadows, whisps of rumor, for a good while.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oh... yes, now I catch the drift...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Avelyon's Assassins' Guild and the workings thereof are going to be a quite major subject in a future story of mine, if I ever get it written. Too whimsy for my own best, and trying desperately to multitask.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Should be an interesting story, and I hope to see it sometime. As to the rest, best luck!<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
I am intrigued. Do tell me more. ^_^ Nosy, nosy Alex.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Erp. All <I>I</I> meant was that given (if I'm not mistaken) his abandonment? and traumas, and his skills, what we know of each, some such career seemed not unlikely. But further, more telling, less general clues...<P>"Shot in the dark" time, hrm. Those cards that Sah' 's half-sister left for him (during The Chosen.) I thought that they had something to do with 'Rose's killing (I do not know if that happened before, during, or after the events of that storyline) of their father. Perhaps they had further significance...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><P>Wyrm - Snake-like, sentient being, a lot smarter than a basilisk (then again, what isn't?) and a lot more stupid than a dragon. Doesn't say much, I know. No legs, but wings with claws on the "wrist" joint, and often associated with fire, heat, and sulfur. In the story I've seen them, they were red. The Erigineean ones are, too, it's just 'Thrainem that isn't.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And thanks again.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Said diplomat was a plot device, and he's going to show up again when there's a point to it. Yes. I'm too intrigued with 'Rose at the moment, though...
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>'Rose who... was looking for <I>something</I> when he found that amber. I wonder if he will continue looking for it, assuming the amber wasn't in fact sufficient answer to his as-it-were questions...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
And that's 'Rooz, correct.
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Postby Schissel on Mon Oct 22, 2001 7:35 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>Not future, not really, more like paralell timelines. Some events in PH acctually happen in the furless paralell universe-of-sorts, some do not.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And meanwhile I'm brought back to this thought. Intriguing that Haven is located not in the world of OMW (etc.) but in a parallel timeline- now this may be even on the face of it a very silly question but by "Some events in PH" do you have very specific ones in mind, or certain categories of events, or particular events since Haven was founded but before the Curse hit (and which perhaps have yet to be recounted), or...? Just curious. *g*<P>(And then the question of the practical effect of the difference between the frames and their histories on interchange between them. Third question, if that first group of questions could count as one which it doesn't- did anything "significant" inhabit the frame (for want of any better word I, anyhow, can think of) Haven inhabits, before Haven came to inhabit it?)
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Postby Schissel on Mon Oct 22, 2001 10:31 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B> I have no idea how the hell he managed to get the Army to agree to let their mailraptors be used for Haven's mail, too, most likely the favours are in exchange for taking a bit of the Erigineean Border off their hands for a while. <P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Speaking of which (you probably have mentioned this and I cop guilty to natural unperceptiveness <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"> ) have you ever mentioned just what nations Erigineea shares a border <I>with</I>, and anything about them?<P>-Eric Schissel
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Postby Acheron on Mon Oct 22, 2001 11:00 am

Homoerotic fanfiction, generally. Although it's not exactly fan fiction here, now is it? Which also means it, unlike most fanfic(and especially slash), can be canon...<P>------------------
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Mon Oct 22, 2001 11:38 am

*grrr* Had a long and wordy reply written, and it DARES come out as "Page not found". Hrrmph. Like ITW, back in those days.<P>Hmm... <P>The Gods were having Robin and Fenni chasing shadows, whisps of rumor, for a good while.<P>Avelyon's Assassins' Guild and the workings thereof are going to be a quite major subject in a future story of mine, if I ever get it written. Too whimsy for my own best, and trying desperately to multitask.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I <I>think</I> I can guess at one reason. Or two. But assuredly no more than guesswork, and... etc.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I am intrigued. Do tell me more. ^_^ Nosy, nosy Alex.<P>Wyrm - Snake-like, sentient being, a lot smarter than a basilisk (then again, what isn't?) and a lot more stupid than a dragon. Doesn't say much, I know. No legs, but wings with claws on the "wrist" joint, and often associated with fire, heat, and sulfur. In the story I've seen them, they were red. The Erigineean ones are, too, it's just 'Thrainem that isn't.<P>Said diplomat was a plot device, and he's going to show up again when there's a point to it. Yes. I'm too intrigued with 'Rose at the moment, though...<P>And that's 'Rooz, correct. <P>Correct on all points, Ach, and most of it IS canon. Including the piece posted <A HREF="http://www.livejournal.com/users/quoting_mungo/day/2001/10/13/">here</A>, that is going to be part of a suite with it, an epilogue, and as many POV fics as I care to write.<P>
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Postby Acheron on Mon Oct 22, 2001 11:41 am

Hmmmm... perhaps wyvern is the name of the beastie you're looking for?
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Mon Oct 22, 2001 11:46 am

I don't think, sweetheart, wyverns have hindlegs. The <I>irana</I> don't. Just snakes with draconic wings.<P><P>------------------
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Tue Oct 23, 2001 1:32 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by schissel:
<B> Speaking of which (you probably have mentioned this and I cop guilty to natural unperceptiveness <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif"> ) have you ever mentioned just what nations Erigineea shares a border <I>with</I>, and anything about them?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hmm... The Westlands (or, if you're to be formal, which noone is, The Western Empire) in the West, got slavery and all means of nasty things there, pretty tyrannic, Col's from there, Lands of the Orders in the East, which is where Zvee originates, Everlasting Ice in the north, nothing interesting up there, tiny tribes, 'Rooz grew up there, and the sea in the South, and in the sea, the Islands of the Sun, which is wherefrom Sah' got himself banned when he slain his lover in a fit of rage. Faeries and their temper...<P>
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Postby Schissel on Tue Oct 23, 2001 1:51 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B> Hmm... The Westlands (or, if you're to be formal, which noone is, The Western Empire) in the West, got slavery and all means of nasty things there, pretty tyrannic, Col's from there,
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hrm- I'm suddenly remembering some of Col's backstory from OMW- you're right, speaking of karma...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Lands of the Orders in the East, which is where Zvee originates,
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I wonder if Zvee is more of an exception here, or if the wozelles encountered in several chapters of part 1 of OMW (Iony, say) originate also from there. (Orders incl. Order of the Gryphon which you mentioned previously?)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Everlasting Ice in the north, nothing interesting up there, tiny tribes, 'Rooz grew up there, and the sea in the South, and in the sea, the Islands of the Sun, which is wherefrom Sah' got himself banned when he slain his lover in a fit of rage. Faeries and their temper...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Oh dear, and much to think on in <I>that</I> last.
Thanks- was curious.
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Postby Schissel on Tue Oct 23, 2001 2:28 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>*snicker* Oh, 'Rose's past is traumatic, alright. He has reasons for those outbursts, I can say that much.
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I believe it.
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The cards, although said father was dead long since at that point, were only serving as a clue to whom the woman's father was. Nothing more. I suspect the good lady is a bit of a mage, just enough to keep her air of mystery and keep her fortunes accurate.
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Hrm. Had you mentioned continuing The Chosen at some point, or had I misunderstood that comment? I find myself wondering now about some of the other events of that time-period (not because of that particular character, minor mage or otherwise, but as background in general.)
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Nah, not looking for anything. Excepting intruders. Always looking for intruders on Border Guard.
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Hrm.
(Tries to puzzle out what activity of Shadowrose's in particular was prompted by Nequii's warning about the Silver Guardian, as against, the activities he was going to perform anyway in his capacity as Border Guard, etc. It'll hit me. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> Maybe just increased alertness...)
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Hrmm...
There are a good deal of events which are almost canon in LaL and PH. Take the fur away, and they are. These events are just about all the ones where the Curse or I don't have a significant role. Which means Spike + Nequii in LaL was not, since without the Curse, Neq would never have been female. The canon short stories and slash are canon towards the OMW timeline as well, again excepting details that can only have been there if the Curse was.
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Again, explains a lot, thanks.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Hmm... I think there's a duhdrra figuring in whatever chapter of OMW it is where Sah' has his strange dream. Basically, they're very stubby, whip-tailed, three-toed, omnivorous equines, with a normal fur pattern inverted zebra stripes, and mating pattern of very strong, often clashing, colors.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hrm- interesting.
(Raises further questions about whether the Orders are related to Bonded-Bond relationship, or simply model themselves after features of their eponymous (is that the word I'm looking for...) animal... perhaps the chapters on the Order of the Gryphon should have answered that for me, though here my honestly truly erratic memory isn't helping a whit.)<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
The late comic was caused partially by lack of planning from my side, since I should have done it in the weekend, but somehow time wasn't enough, and then yesterday I had school late and riding lesson even later, so there was no time.
Would have gone up this morning, if not for the fact my activities lately earned me a morning computer ban, so there were no means to.
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Those other replies were written in the beginning of my two computer-related classes. *sigh* Thursday's strip <I>shouldn't</I> be late, and neither <I>should</I> Saturday's and Sunday's, and after that, I've got a school-free week, and thus very little to worry about. I may have to consider going down to fewer updates than four a week after the break, one week after it my second semester starts, and the schedule is just... *shudder* VERY horrid.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I obviously can't speak for all your readers, of course, but- whatever schedule works for you and - best luck, with the schedule and everything else as well.<P>Neat episode today, by the way, and was worth the wait.<P>
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Tue Oct 23, 2001 4:15 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by schissel:
<B> I wonder if Zvee is more of an exception here, or if the wozelles encountered in several chapters of part 1 of OMW (Iony, say) originate also from there. (Orders incl. Order of the Gryphon which you mentioned previously?)</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Ah, matters how you see it. The Order of the Gryphon is indeed one of the Orders, others are... Lesse if I can remember... The Dragon, The Wozelle, Alioda's Children, The Stormbird, The Duhdrra, umm... More, definitely, but I don't remember them.<P>Wozelles originate from Lands of the Orders, or east of there, matters on where you draw the border. Got a map somewhere...<P><P>------------------
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Postby Schissel on Tue Oct 23, 2001 4:50 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B> Ah, matters how you see it. The Order of the Gryphon is indeed one of the Orders, others are... Lesse if I can remember... The Dragon, The Wozelle, Alioda's Children, The Stormbird, The Duhdrra, umm... More, definitely, but I don't remember them.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That's interesting- any characters introduced so far from the Duhdrra? That's not a name I recognize, unfortunately...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Wozelles originate from Lands of the Orders, or east of there, matters on where you draw the border. Got a map somewhere...<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>One more question (and apologies for the growing list) :
while I like Sunday's comic (which so far as my unexpert eyes could tell was indeed very well-drawn) I hope I'm not being overly impatient about that of Tuesday which has yet to appear (which might, I understand, be for any or all sorts of reasons and, patience will be my byword etc. but- looking forward to it. This is emphatically, in other words, very much not a complaint, despite looking like one *g*)<P>-Eric Schissel
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Tue Oct 23, 2001 8:33 am

*snicker* Oh, 'Rose's past is traumatic, alright. He has reasons for those outbursts, I can say that much.<P>The cards, although said father was dead long since at that point, were only serving as a clue to whom the woman's father was. Nothing more. I suspect the good lady is a bit of a mage, just enough to keep her air of mystery and keep her fortunes accurate.<P>Nah, not looking for anything. Excepting intruders. Always looking for intruders on Border Guard.<P>Hrmm...
There are a good deal of events which are almost canon in LaL and PH. Take the fur away, and they are. These events are just about all the ones where the Curse or I don't have a significant role. Which means Spike + Nequii in LaL was not, since without the Curse, Neq would never have been female. The canon short stories and slash are canon towards the OMW timeline as well, again excepting details that can only have been there if the Curse was.<P>Hmm... I think there's a duhdrra figuring in whatever chapter of OMW it is where Sah' has his strange dream. Basically, they're very stubby, whip-tailed, three-toed, omnivorous equines, with a normal fur pattern inverted zebra stripes, and mating pattern of very strong, often clashing, colors. <P>The late comic was caused partially by lack of planning from my side, since I should have done it in the weekend, but somehow time wasn't enough, and then yesterday I had school late and riding lesson even later, so there was no time.
Would have gone up this morning, if not for the fact my activities lately earned me a morning computer ban, so there were no means to. Those other replies were written in the beginning of my two computer-related classes. *sigh* Thursday's strip <I>shouldn't</I> be late, and neither <I>should</I> Saturday's and Sunday's, and after that, I've got a school-free week, and thus very little to worry about. I may have to consider going down to fewer updates than four a week after the break, one week after it my second semester starts, and the schedule is just... *shudder* VERY horrid.<P>
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Postby Schissel on Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:28 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>I was planning to draw more pages of the Chosen, yes, but I never got around to. That, and I think I lost a lot in the ways of people drawing skills since I drew those first pages. So it's not likely to return, least not right now.
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Hrm. If you don't mind saying, what happened to your drawing style vis-a-vis humans? As to the return of/continuation of that storyline, again, thanks, I was curious.
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Something that will show up, whenever I get around to putting it in order, is an archieve page with the storyline names ordered all nicely, and with notes to them, including if they're canon or not (Kit's Karaoke Machine is NOT), approximately what year they take place (which will let me play a bit looser with time, which is a Good Thing), so on.
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In my honest opinion, that sort of thing could be very interesting. (Reminds me of the "We need a map" discussions in the TCM forum <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> where a request was put in for a more definitive timeline of that somewhat temporally chaotic comic (once moreso)...) Personally more (but not only) interested in historical background matters (including OMW) than but that's my personal opinion speaking <I>only</I>...
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*snicker* Who says Nequii's told him?
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About the Silver Guardian? He told him something on September 27th 2001, anyway...
Reading what happened since then, I see that (as I had forgotten) Shadowrose next spoke with the diplomat (who definitely shows up more often recently than I'd thought...) (about something which Shadowrose said he would do after going on Guard), then discovered the Irooz-amber (while on Guard?)- so if I'm guessing right, whatever he was going to do for the diplomat remains undone (and unknown to me unless I seriously missed a clue, which I probably and unsurprisingly did. My guess would have something to do with healing a wound that Azyr? took in fight with Zvee... this an inference from what he says...)
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The Orders are not exactly related to the kind of relation 'Rose and Zvee have, although they do ride the creature their Order is named after. Relation there is bondmount-bondrider, generally not as strong as the Bonded relation, and purely artificial, where Bonded 'zelles and people Bond through the will of the High.
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And thanks again.
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My hopes are still that school won't prove as taxing as I fear it will be, but if it is, I'll have to go down to weekly or biweekly updates. And Odds & Ends will have to be pushed forward until next year, at least.
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Whether semiweekly, weekly, or biweekly (like Freighter Tails... ouch!), that's how it is ... can't say I won't miss the current schedule though.
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Bleh. They could've put one of the classes this semester, we've got huge holes in the schedule, but no, they have to stuff next period instead... Ick...
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*sympathy* !!! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/frown.gif">
Oh, according to the one webpage I could find that said anything about the matter, you're right about wyverns. I don't have any reference sources to-hand, alas.
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Wed Oct 24, 2001 10:29 am

The one Nequii talked to September 27th was Sah', not Shadowrose. 'Rose's got red hair. Which ties nicely in with the subject of human drawing. Gone from the style of the Chosen and towards a more manga-inspired style, September 29th I think it is that shows a handcolored strip with Nequii and Sah'? The strips I have pencilled for late December and next year have gone even further towards manga-style. Not purely a conscious progress, but it happened, nontheless.<P>Historical background matters... Well, I think it was you who saw a preview of the future dropdown, with all sub-storylines I have planned so far, not? Flashback coming up February or so. Other than that, well, I'm working on OMW 1-18, and working a bit with a race guide that is going to have brief history, as well.<P>Possibly, there'll be an Erigineean Legends storyline some time, as well. There has also been loose talk about a crossover with <A HREF="http://furfire.keenspace.com">Furfire</A> and <A HREF="http://zina.keenspace.com">Element's Song</A> some time in the future when we happen to end storylines at the same time. ^_^<P>The diplomat has personal reasons as well as proffessional to want to go to Haven. Think I hinted something about them in the cast page.<P>Hopefully, I'll manage to get a few weeks ahead during my break, and then there are a lot of tiny breaks and free days next semester, and I should be able to finish a bit on the weekends. So <I>hopefully</I> I won't need to cut down on updates. I'd miss the current schedule as well, but sadly, grades have to go first.<P>*snicker* According to my book on Heraldry, The Art Of Heraldry or something like that, that's the definition of wyvern. However, according to that same book, <I>dragons</I> have been legless from time to time. A few more interesting tidbits in that one, such as the difference between a male gryphon and a gryphon (which also is male...). <P>
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Wed Oct 24, 2001 10:54 am

I was planning to draw more pages of the Chosen, yes, but I never got around to. That, and I think I lost a lot in the ways of people drawing skills since I drew those first pages. So it's not likely to return, least not right now.<P>Something that will show up, whenever I get around to putting it in order, is an archieve page with the storyline names ordered all nicely, and with notes to them, including if they're canon or not (Kit's Karaoke Machine is NOT), approximately what year they take place (which will let me play a bit looser with time, which is a Good Thing), so on.<P>*snicker* Who says Nequii's told him?<P>The Orders are not exactly related to the kind of relation 'Rose and Zvee have, although they do ride the creature their Order is named after. Relation there is bondmount-bondrider, generally not as strong as the Bonded relation, and purely artificial, where Bonded 'zelles and people Bond through the will of the High. <P>My hopes are still that school won't prove as taxing as I fear it will be, but if it is, I'll have to go down to weekly or biweekly updates. And Odds & Ends will have to be pushed forward until next year, at least.<P>Bleh. They could've put one of the classes this semester, we've got huge holes in the schedule, but no, they have to stuff next period instead... Ick...<P>
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Postby Schissel on Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:31 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shadowed Rose:
<B>The one Nequii talked to September 27th was Sah', not Shadowrose. 'Rose's got red hair.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And Nequii says "Sah'". Which might have clued me in. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/redface.gif"> ...
As to the hair- hrm- looking at, say, Sept. 27 and Oct. 23 in juxtaposition I can see the difference, but I am partially colorblind in certain ways and it is a difficulty for me...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Which ties nicely in with the subject of human drawing. Gone from the style of the Chosen and towards a more manga-inspired style, September 29th I think it is that shows a handcolored strip with Nequii and Sah'?
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Yes. (Now that should have caught my attention (in Sept. 27th). Why wouldn't Zavayi...hrm.)
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The strips I have pencilled for late December and next year have gone even further towards manga-style. Not purely a conscious progress, but it happened, nontheless.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>*nod* Understood, I think.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Historical background matters... Well, I think it was you who saw a preview of the future dropdown, with all sub-storylines I have planned so far, not?
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And who promptly forgot most of its contents the once it was gone, I might add, but, yes, it was.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Flashback coming up February or so. Other than that, well, I'm working on OMW 1-18, and working a bit with a race guide that is going to have brief history, as well.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That does sound very interesting.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B><P>Possibly, there'll be an Erigineean Legends storyline some time, as well. There has also been loose talk about a crossover with <A HREF="http://furfire.keenspace.com">Furfire</A> and <A HREF="http://zina.keenspace.com">Element's Song</A> some time in the future when we happen to end storylines at the same time. ^_^<P>The diplomat has personal reasons as well as proffessional to want to go to Haven. Think I hinted something about them in the cast page.
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True, and it seems to me there's one or two thought balloons of his too that might have an interpretation down those lines, if only just slightly, as well...<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
Hopefully, I'll manage to get a few weeks ahead during my break, and then there are a lot of tiny breaks and free days next semester, and I should be able to finish a bit on the weekends. So <I>hopefully</I> I won't need to cut down on updates. I'd miss the current schedule as well, but sadly, grades have to go first.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Too true. Well, nothing without a purpose, one hopes.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><B>
*snicker* According to my book on Heraldry, The Art Of Heraldry or something like that, that's the definition of wyvern. However, according to that same book, <I>dragons</I> have been legless from time to time. A few more interesting tidbits in that one, such as the difference between a male gryphon and a gryphon (which also is male...).
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hrm- perhaps there's a significant difference when being specific on coats of arms?
(Can't quite help having flashback to Pratchett's novel "Feet of Clay" (the title as usual turning out to be something of a pun since golems figure prominently... anyway!), which has amongst other things some very amusing segments at Ankh-Morpork's College of Heraldry, but that's how it is. Sigh- now I'll be thinking of heraldic hippopotami for the rest of the morning.)<P>
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Postby Shadowed Rose on Thu Oct 25, 2001 3:05 am

If I remember correctly, the male gryphon has fiery mane and horns, and the gryphon has wings. Think it was so, but I don't have the book right here at the moment, so I'm not sure.<P>I'm very deeply interested in heraldry, overall, not a lot of literature on the theory of it aviable here, so I was in seventh heaven when I found two of them in England. One of them I bought with me home. Very nice pictures, and text. Yesss.<P>And now I'm going to attempt get something done of the race guide. <P>
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