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1 YEAR ONLINE!! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
Oh boy! This is so cool <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif">!! Congratulations KatEllis!!! Keep at it!! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><p>[This message has been edited by ItaX (edited 01-15-2002).]
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- KatEllis
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Thank you <I>thank you</I> <B>thank you all!</B>
I actually started at the very first of the
year in 2001, but my first posting was a B&W
"rerun"! It wasn't til the middle of January
that I started my new stuff. I've been very
grateful for *all* my readers and all their
support. Being able to find a receptive
audience for the type of stories I want to
tell has been absolutely great! Not only that,
I'm even grateful in a roundabout way for
finding out how petty and mindless that very
few in number who don't like my comic could
be. Why in the world they come to a site
that has stuff on it that they *know* they
won't like... are even warned they might not
like.. but keep coming back again and again
and getting furious at me - well, it's a
lesson in human behavior, I'll say that. But
overall, this has been really great! Thanks
to all of you for everything! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
I actually started at the very first of the
year in 2001, but my first posting was a B&W
"rerun"! It wasn't til the middle of January
that I started my new stuff. I've been very
grateful for *all* my readers and all their
support. Being able to find a receptive
audience for the type of stories I want to
tell has been absolutely great! Not only that,
I'm even grateful in a roundabout way for
finding out how petty and mindless that very
few in number who don't like my comic could
be. Why in the world they come to a site
that has stuff on it that they *know* they
won't like... are even warned they might not
like.. but keep coming back again and again
and getting furious at me - well, it's a
lesson in human behavior, I'll say that. But
overall, this has been really great! Thanks
to all of you for everything! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
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One year of cute yiffy fun! Keep it up! Yay!<P>------------------
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aw! thank <i>you,</i> katellis! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
congrats on the big oh-one! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> or maybe just the big O.<P>...<P>forgive me for the above bad pun. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
congrats on the big oh-one! <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"> or maybe just the big O.<P>...<P>forgive me for the above bad pun. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">
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Haha! I've posed that question myself. I think they just plain like getting upset. Granted, it can be kinda fun to cuss out people you really despise (been there, done that a few too many times), but you'd think they could find a more constructive use of their energy.<P>Anyhow..... sorry for not responding to your last post on the now-dead thread we had going... but thanks for encouraging me towards comic strips. I think the problem for me is mostly endurance. To find enough material to put out a story for weeks or months on end maintaining the same themes and characters... I know I don't have the stamina. (It's true, you can ask my mate. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> ) I've never finished any large project I've ever embarked upon.<P>But, as time goes on and I get more practice illustrating other people's comics (insert plug for Shanda the Panda here), I get better at that. Perhaps someday I will be able to tell a story that doesn't have other people breathing down my neck with a deadline backing it.
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Ha ha! Great theory! Yes, I'm well-versed in creating and controlling my own little worlds (as much as you can, sometimes they just run off with you), so I certainly don't need to do that to anyone else's. Perhaps connected to that is the fact that I've worked very hard to make sure that I don't insist upon others agreeing with me. I don't always succeed, but the effort's there. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Manawolf:
<B>Haha! I've posed that question myself. I
think they just plain like getting upset.
Granted, it can be kinda fun to cuss out
people you really despise (been there, done
that a few too many times), but you'd think
they could find a more constructive use of
their energy. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In some other conversations I've had along
those lines with other artists, I've asked
that same question, and some of them have had
some interesting conjectures! They noticed
that the most virulent and stubborn trouble-
makers they've gotten static from have been
types that couldn't draw-and made a point of
saying so! Could this, they postulated, be a
significant factor? Those who constantly make
themselves a pain in the ass instead of just
finding something else that interests them
are more than likely lacking in artistic
talent? The discussion you and I have had in
this very thread has been about as amicable
and lucid as any two people who see things
differently can be. Is this because we are
both artists? My friends believe that there
is a subconcious factor to being able to draw
which "comes with the job" so to speak, and
it's sort of a visualization/experience mind-
set that gets developed by lots of expressing
oneself. Since one does that a lot already,
one has less need to make others bend to their
will - one already shapes one's reality on a
regular basis. Others, who don't regularly
create things, are more... <I>indebted</I>, shall
we say, to those that do... their visualizations
hit those who don't have that 'experience'
buffer a lot harder. And so, unconciously,
they try to manifest their dormant, repressed
creativity by trying to force those who ARE
creative to obey their ideaology.
I don't think this theory could be applied in
every single case, but I *did* find it an
interesting apothesis!
<B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Anyhow..... sorry for not responding to your last post on the now-dead thread we had going... but thanks for encouraging me towards comic strips. I think the problem for me is mostly endurance. To find enough material to put out a story for weeks or months on end maintaining the same themes and characters... I know I don't have the stamina. (It's true, you can ask my mate. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> ) I've never finished any large project I've ever embarked upon.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, I didn't really blame you for simply
leaving off the discussion - it looked as
though you'd said everything you wanted to
say. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
<B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
But, as time goes on and I get more practice illustrating other people's comics (insert plug for Shanda the Panda here), I get better at that. Perhaps someday I will be able to tell a story that doesn't have other people breathing down my neck with a deadline backing it. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
T'would be niiiiice to see! ^_^<P>
<B>Haha! I've posed that question myself. I
think they just plain like getting upset.
Granted, it can be kinda fun to cuss out
people you really despise (been there, done
that a few too many times), but you'd think
they could find a more constructive use of
their energy. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
In some other conversations I've had along
those lines with other artists, I've asked
that same question, and some of them have had
some interesting conjectures! They noticed
that the most virulent and stubborn trouble-
makers they've gotten static from have been
types that couldn't draw-and made a point of
saying so! Could this, they postulated, be a
significant factor? Those who constantly make
themselves a pain in the ass instead of just
finding something else that interests them
are more than likely lacking in artistic
talent? The discussion you and I have had in
this very thread has been about as amicable
and lucid as any two people who see things
differently can be. Is this because we are
both artists? My friends believe that there
is a subconcious factor to being able to draw
which "comes with the job" so to speak, and
it's sort of a visualization/experience mind-
set that gets developed by lots of expressing
oneself. Since one does that a lot already,
one has less need to make others bend to their
will - one already shapes one's reality on a
regular basis. Others, who don't regularly
create things, are more... <I>indebted</I>, shall
we say, to those that do... their visualizations
hit those who don't have that 'experience'
buffer a lot harder. And so, unconciously,
they try to manifest their dormant, repressed
creativity by trying to force those who ARE
creative to obey their ideaology.
I don't think this theory could be applied in
every single case, but I *did* find it an
interesting apothesis!
<B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Anyhow..... sorry for not responding to your last post on the now-dead thread we had going... but thanks for encouraging me towards comic strips. I think the problem for me is mostly endurance. To find enough material to put out a story for weeks or months on end maintaining the same themes and characters... I know I don't have the stamina. (It's true, you can ask my mate. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> ) I've never finished any large project I've ever embarked upon.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, I didn't really blame you for simply
leaving off the discussion - it looked as
though you'd said everything you wanted to
say. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">
<B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
But, as time goes on and I get more practice illustrating other people's comics (insert plug for Shanda the Panda here), I get better at that. Perhaps someday I will be able to tell a story that doesn't have other people breathing down my neck with a deadline backing it. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
T'would be niiiiice to see! ^_^<P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Manawolf:
<B>Ha ha! Great theory! Yes, I'm well-versed in creating and controlling my own little worlds (as much as you can, sometimes they just run off with you), so I certainly don't need to do that to anyone else's. Perhaps connected to that is the fact that I've worked very hard to make sure that I don't insist upon others agreeing with me. I don't always succeed, but the effort's there. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.g ... BLOCKQUOTE>
I thought it was an intriguing premise as
well. Particularly now, in light of your post-
your characters take control of themselves
too, eh? Seems about all I can do is coalesce
mine into an identifiable form. It isn't long
before they take on their own behavior and
refuse to listen to me. I guess the characters
win, no matter what. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>
<B>Ha ha! Great theory! Yes, I'm well-versed in creating and controlling my own little worlds (as much as you can, sometimes they just run off with you), so I certainly don't need to do that to anyone else's. Perhaps connected to that is the fact that I've worked very hard to make sure that I don't insist upon others agreeing with me. I don't always succeed, but the effort's there. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.g ... BLOCKQUOTE>
I thought it was an intriguing premise as
well. Particularly now, in light of your post-
your characters take control of themselves
too, eh? Seems about all I can do is coalesce
mine into an identifiable form. It isn't long
before they take on their own behavior and
refuse to listen to me. I guess the characters
win, no matter what. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P>