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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 12:18 am
by EWHPTIV
...have you ever thought about merchandising? More than likely this is a topic that's already been posted on enough, and I just didn't notice the threads
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 2:49 am
by FrustratedPilot
Don't forget the coffee mugs and the Xeno throw pillows.
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 3:10 am
by EWHPTIV
And not to mention the myriad possibilities embodied in action figures! Think! Rumiko with Karate-Fighting Action! Katherine, with Mind-Control Crown! Tim, with Massive Collection of Hentai! Jones, with...um...Chain-Smoking Habit!<P>------------------
"Writing is a legal way of avoiding work without actually stealing and one that doesn't take any talent or training." --Robert A. Heinlein, <I>The Cat Who Walks Through Walls</I>
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 3:57 am
by Amorph
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
When I say merchandise, I'm thinking T-shirts, hats, maybe a tote bag? Along the lines of what Carson's got at ElfLife.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Not to be harsh, but Carson's currently passing the hat around, so to speak. It usually takes a non-trivial investment up front to offer things like that. Maritza appears to be able to do it, but CRFH! is unusually popular. I don't know how well Fans! is doing (and I'm not asking), but it's something to consider.<P>That said, I'll take a T-shirt too if they're offered. Or a mug. <IMG SRC="
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James<P>"Without death there would be very little progress." - Steve Jobs
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 4:16 am
by Maritza_Campos
Actually, both Cars and I are going with CafePress, which requires no initial investment. Unfortunately of course, that means they take most of the profit. But it's a good way to put merchandise out there.<P>As for other things, I'm offering the CRFH CD, and I did have to invest in that... <P>Maritza
CRFH.net
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 4:18 am
by Maritza_Campos
And by the way CRFH is actually not that popular... the forum is misleading.<P>Maritza
CRFH.net
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 4:48 am
by FrustratedPilot
I beg to differ. Your polls seem to have three times the participation of T's polls. (Shrug)
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 7:33 am
by T Campbell
Neither Maritza nor I are racking up the numbers of a PVP or SLUGGY FREELANCE... though I don't think Keen's stats are quite accurate, I trust them that far, at least.<P>Moichandizing? Yeah, you might see a bit more of that... there may even be a POLL about it, sometime in the near future...<P>--T
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 8:39 am
by Ebijin
You might want to consider going the plush doll route, ala Bobbins and -- in a different way -- CRFH. Who wouldn't want an adorable little throwable Agent Jones?<P>~f
ego cum Flacce sum.
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 9:29 am
by Quinch
Gigantic Ymir with minty fresh breath... agent Pinkerton with extra-confused look on his face....
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2001 9:51 am
by Bevan
Virtually every single webcomic poll I find on the net seems to put CRFH as number 1, but then that can be pretty misleading I guess.<P>*Sigh* I do wish PvP and Sluggy Freelance well, and I do read them of course, but I think there are other webcartoonists who deserve a little more attention then they do.
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2001 3:41 am
by EWHPTIV
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Maritza_Campos:
<B>Actually, both Cars and I are going with CafePress, which requires no initial investment. Unfortunately of course, that means they take most of the profit. But it's a good way to put merchandise out there.
</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It's not so much about the profit. Certainly we all want the two of you to make more money for what you're doing on Fans! and CRFH, but also we (well, I at least) just want to show our fandom. Plus, by doing that we become walking promotions for the strips and increase readership.<P>On a related note, does Fans! have a banner? I'm one of the losers who doesn't have a page to put it on, but I've got friends and connections who would all be glad to support you.<P>(And to carry the merchandising idea <I>even further</I>
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2001 11:51 am
by Amorph
Maritza wrote:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Actually, both Cars and I are going with CafePress, which requires no initial investment. Unfortunately of course, that means they take most of the profit. But it's a good way to put merchandise out there.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hmm. My band's looking at getting stuff printed. It's a possibility. Especially given that we can't swing much in the way of an initial investment.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>And by the way CRFH is actually not that popular... the forum is misleading.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Bah.<P>It should be, dammit. It certainly seems to get a fair amount of attention. I discovered it (and Fans!) from the Salon article a while back...<P>T wrote:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Moichandizing? Yeah, you might see a bit more of that... there may even be a POLL about it, sometime in the near future...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Wiigii! All I have to do is clear out a little space on the ol' credit card, and I can pay some shareware fees *cough* and maybe buy stuff from you. And <A HREF="
http://appleturns.co/m" TARGET=_blank>As the Apple Turns</A>, too. <IMG SRC="
http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"><P><P>------------------
James<P>"Without death there would be very little progress." - Steve Jobs
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2001 11:51 am
by Tom the Fanboy
Well, we did joke about an action figure line once upon a thread. I think I transferred it to Billberg if anyone still wants to look.<P>I really like the idea of a Xenochiclet throw pillow line. Plenty of different colors! Name them all!<P>I do think that it'd be cool to have some T-Shirts. Maybe the logo on the front corner and some shot, like the cover of issue one (w/ Alisin?) on the back? I can think of TONS of other designs that'd be cool.<P>Hmmmm..........<P><P>------------------
Tom the Fanboy
http://www.geocities.com/tee-moss<P>[begin Fans! code]
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2001 8:00 am
by EWHPTIV
The problem here is that Fans! and CRFH both are part of a subculture that very few people are aware of. Webcomics, apart from Scott McCloud's, are rarely mentioned in major news outlets (and his get as many attacks as compliments). CRFH gets the banner ads through Keenspot, and Fans! doesn't even get that. If we want them to survive, we've got to spread the word outside.<P>Right now we're a community, but a very inbred one. We talk with each other, but we might as well be talking to ourselves. We're navel-gazing, preaching to the converted. If there's any way for Fans! and CRFH (and any other webcomic, for that matter) to get mentioned anywhere offline, we ought to jump at the chance. T-shirts, posters, print ads
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 2:41 am
by Maritza_Campos
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EWHPTIV:
<B>The problem here is that Fans! and CRFH both are part of a subculture that very few people are aware of. Webcomics, apart from Scott McCloud's, are rarely mentioned in major news outlets (and his get as many attacks as compliments). CRFH gets the banner ads through Keenspot, and Fans! doesn't even get that. If we want them to survive, we've got to spread the word outside.<P>Right now we're a community, but a very inbred one. We talk with each other, but we might as well be talking to ourselves. We're navel-gazing, preaching to the converted. If there's any way for Fans! and CRFH (and any other webcomic, for that matter) to get mentioned anywhere offline, we ought to jump at the chance. T-shirts, posters, print ads
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:00 am
by T Campbell
Boy, EWHPTIV, you do know how to motivate.<P>I don't think Scott's gotten nearly as much bad press as good overall... it's just that the bad's been pronounced this year.<P>Because you and several others asked for it...
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2001 9:34 am
by Doublespeak III
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T Campbell:
<B>Boy, EWHPTIV, you do know how to motivate.<P>I don't think Scott's gotten nearly as much bad press as good overall... it's just that the bad's been pronounced this year.<P>Because you and several others asked for it...
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2001 10:32 am
by Wish
I'[m actually very glad this came up.. I've been fighting with the temptation to make some Fans! fan art into a t-shirt for about.. oh.. six months now. I havn't quite got the fan art -done- yet, so it hasn't been a major ethics issue, but if there was an 'offical' shirt, I could give my aching moral compass a rest. I'm all for some merchendising!<P>-Wish
All I need is a translation book for "divosk."
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2001 4:31 am
by T Campbell
No problem here, Wish!