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Posted: **Thu May 31, 2001 7:59 am**

What's happening in the last panel of today's strip [Where Rikk is talking to Will]? Are the rest of the Fans 'porting to he FiB base, or is the panel just a creative way of showing Rikk's communication with Will?

Posted: **Thu May 31, 2001 8:09 am**

In the immortal word of Deion Sanders: "Both."

Posted: **Thu May 31, 2001 8:11 am**

Actually, I have no idea what is going on in that last panel.

Posted: **Thu May 31, 2001 8:24 am**

Wait, they probably are teleporting. See how the alleyway is kind of fading out and being replaced with where Will is? Still, a pretty confusing panel I admit. Extra Note 1: The Fans aren't in the greatest battle formation I have ever seen.Extra Note 2: Either you don't have to go through target practice to be a guard in the FIB, or he likes to make people dance.
"And make sure to always aim for their feet cadet"

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 12:52 am**

[shuts up]

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 12:57 am**

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by T Campbell:
Um... y'see... the pistol actually has a miniature DUPLICATOR ray inside it which generates MORE bullets as the old ones empty. The tech's still too rudimentary to duplicate, say, people, but simple lead is no problem.YEAH.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Bugger, I knew I'd overlooked the simple explanation.Refer to Larry Niven's "The Theory and Practice of Teleportation" for some of the other unexpected plotlines that replicator/transporter technology could snooker.BUT But but - - if they can teleport bullets, why bother to make them go bang in the gun? Why not make them go bang first, then teleport them? Might improve their aim.Muttley
[This message has been edited by Muttley (edited 06-01-2001).]

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 1:06 am**

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Muttley:
 BUT But but - - if they can teleport bullets, why bother to make them go bang in the gun? Why not make them go bang first, then teleport them? Might improve their aim.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Because the duplicator ray is very short range and can only make bullets inside the gun, silly.All joking aside, I see no reason the FiB weapons can't be some kind of machine pistol. That would explain the rapidfire AND the poor accuracy.

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 1:11 am**

No, no, no, you're forgetting the Real Simple Explanation. Shanna is Frigging Loony Tunes! In a comic, no one can hit the Crazy Person with a gun, bow, or other projectile weapon. They can walk through the midst of a hailstorm of bullets unharmed. They're protected by the Universal Law of Comicdom, you know, the same one that protects a sleepwalker from harm, such as not falling off of a skyscraper under construction. The only way to engage said Crazy Person is in hand-to-hand, and even then you are at a significant disadvantage.Of course, this doesn't protect the rest of the Fans.--Tuscahomap.s. Additional rational reason, maybe the guard is a rookie and is still shaken by almost being shot at by Shanna. Remember the movie Unforgiven? Clint Eastwood's character, when drunk, wasn't the fastest draw, just the one who kept his cool the best.[This message has been edited by Tuscahoma (edited 06-01-2001).]

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 2:30 am**

Rikk's talking to all of them. As per Jones's instructions, they're being "brought in," teleported into F.I.B. HQ. The panel starts in the alley, moves to shimmer-space, and ends up in the Unconscious Collective as you read from left to right.A future version of this strip will make this a bit clearer...

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 2:56 am**

Of course, the only sure-fire way to kill a crazy cartoon character is with a piercing weapon. Just make sure it doesn't go through through the armpit area. You could probably choke one to death using a wire or something to that extent, but it could take hours with them doing that wacky green large head thing.[This message has been edited by Doublespeak (edited 06-01-2001).]

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 3:39 am**

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Doublespeak:
Of course, the only sure-fire way to kill a crazy cartoon character is with a piercing weapon. Just make sure it doesn't go through through the armpit area. You could probably choke one to death using a wire or something to that extent, but it could take hours with them doing that wacky green large head thing.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Or run up saying "Telegram for Shanna, telegram for Shanna" and hand them an explosive telegram.One more serious (well, mostly serious) thought on why the guard missed so badly - the 23 sider o' power is manipulating things to grant or ungrant a want and Shanna's safety is part of that.--Tuscahoma

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 6:14 am**

One-handed automatic weapons pull up and to the right (or is it the left? my direction sense sucks -- I'm almost as bad as T), so when firing you'll often deliberately aim low and to the side and "walk" your fire into the target. Not to say Random guard 655321 didn't overdo it...Greg------------------
Risus est telum ultimum contra tyrranem. Nullus dictator exercitibus allibus ridiculem vulgi longe resistare potest.

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 8:34 am**

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by T Campbell:
Rikk's talking to all of them. As per Jones's instructions, they're being "brought in," teleported into F.I.B. HQ. The panel starts in the alley, moves to shimmer-space, and ends up in the Unconscious Collective as you read from left to right.A future version of this strip will make this a bit clearer...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I liked this page. It made the point that Rikk, Rumy, et al. were teleporting to the U.C. without clobbering us over the head with clumsy exposition. I found it perfectly clear.

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 8:40 am**

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Maccabee:
One-handed automatic weapons pull up and to the right (or is it the left? my direction sense sucks -- I'm almost as bad as T), so when firing you'll often deliberately aim low and to the side and "walk" your fire into the target. Not to say Random guard 655321 didn't overdo it...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Wheep, wheep, wheep, massive generalisation alert, warning, warning <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">As I recall from my shooting days, any slug-thrower will try to climb, depending on how far the chamber is above your wrist/shoulder. Direction and size of lateral error is set by which way it ejects the case. Muzzle compensation can eliminate these tendancies. . . . or you can use a two-handed hold (look out for the slide! oh, I'm sorry, did you use that thumb very much?) <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif"> Actually, looking at the frame again, he IS using a proper two-handed hold, cupping the pistol grip in his left hand, so your second hypothesis seems more likely; the guy can't shoot straight.Is it an auto? I count five bullet strikes and five "Braka's", perhaps it's just an echo? Pistol-size auto's are not common, you use up the mag too soon . . .Muttley
Bisley medal, 800 yards (Duke of Cambridge).
Never was any good with a pistol; give me a rifle though - <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 9:23 am**

Um... y'see... the pistol actually has a miniature DUPLICATOR ray inside it which generates MORE bullets as the old ones empty. The tech's still too rudimentary to duplicate, say, people, but simple lead is no problem.YEAH.

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 10:27 am**

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Jarnor23:
Four words: Emperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.g ... OTE>One of the best bits in Star Wars is Obi-Wan saying that "only Imperial storm troopers shoot with such accuracy."At least they didn't contradict established continuity concerning Imperial marksmanship. All "such accuracy" involves is hitting the broad side of a frickin' sandcrawler.I guess that's how the Imps can have such lousy aim and still inspire fear. No one else would even have HIT the sandcrawler in the SW universe.Nicolas

Posted: **Fri Jun 01, 2001 11:38 am**

Four words: Emperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">Jarnor23

Posted: **Sat Jun 02, 2001 3:37 am**

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Czhorat:
 Because the duplicator ray is very short range and can only make bullets inside the gun, silly.All joking aside, I see no reason the FiB weapons can't be some kind of machine pistol. That would explain the rapidfire AND the poor accuracy.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Czhorat,
Ah, its the Hollywood duplicator, used for getting scriptwriters out of awkward corners. Is that the thing they used to put - er - comfort openings in Star Trek uniforms? Or did they reverse the ray and - - - er, no, we won't go any further.(brief nitpick: "machine pistols" are more-or-less sub-machine guns with folding stocks. The very smallest (micro-UZI, Steyr TMP) still have foregrips, big long magazines and are a bit larger than pistols. All are meant to be used two-handed, like an SMG) <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tuscahoma:
 Or run up saying "Telegram for Shanna, telegram for Shanna" and hand them an explosive telegram.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Tuscahoma,
Wasn't that a "Candygram for Mongo" - er - "Shanna", thus justifying the delivery of a box? Blazing Saddles is our favourite Mel Brooks film. Silent Movie's pretty good, too.Anyway, explosives aren't a reliable way of killing off a 'toon. Even the candygram only made Mongo a bit dirtier. You need some DIP! (and to keep Bob Hoskins out of the way) <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Czhorat:
 I liked this page. It made the point that Rikk, Rumy, et al. were teleporting to the U.C. without clobbering us over the head with clumsy exposition. I found it perfectly clear.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Pehaps a bit more obvious "crossfading" between the two locations would help the clueless (like me). But it shows how fast the action is moving now. Muttley
Mongo only pawn in game of life

Posted: **Sat Jun 02, 2001 4:41 am**

Blazing Saddles was great, but my favorite Mel Brooks movies are still The Producers (I've got to figure out a way to score tickets for the stage version -- oh, and get to New York so I can use 'em) and his remake of To Be Or Not To Be. I liked it better than the original, but I'm not a big Jack Benny fan.Greg------------------
Risus est telum ultimum contra tyrranem. Nullus dictator exercitibus allibus ridiculem vulgi longe resistare potest.

Posted: **Sun Jun 03, 2001 2:42 am**

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by T Campbell:
Um... y'see... the pistol actually has a miniature DUPLICATOR ray inside it which generates MORE bullets as the old ones empty. The tech's still too rudimentary to duplicate, say, people, but simple lead is no problem.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Or maybe he's a mage, and he's using the ol' "magically create more bullets in the magazine" trick. Of course, as soon as he overdoes it and calls attention to the fact, a paradox spirit will pop out and bite off his kneecaps.------------------
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