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Ego trip in good cases.<P>Hot sweaty theory in most.<P>Simple as that!
"Yeah! Scratch each other! Hey, rip her shirt while yer at it! Yeah, YEAH!"
That sort of thing.<P>It's rare that you get the egotrip chance.
Though it is really cool when it actually happens! Like when Wish and Val were JOKING around awhile back. That was so cool.<P>Let's hear it for fangirls!<P>------------------
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For many fanboys, getting to see a woman naked in other than magazines was the impossible dream, at least when we were young and geeky (we're still geeky for the most part, but we've adjusted). Catfights, at least in the male fantasy, end in women tearing each other's clothes off, along with a little blood. Saw it myself once, when I was working security at a G'n'R concert in '91. Maybe all the fanboys on this list are well-adjusted, attractive, successful men NOW.... but I'll bet dollars to doughnuts it wasn't always that way.<P>------------------
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bardliam:
<B>For many fanboys, getting to see a woman naked in other than magazines was the impossible dream, at least when we were young and geeky (we're still geeky for the most part, but we've adjusted). Catfights, at least in the male fantasy, end in women tearing each other's clothes off, along with a little blood. Saw it myself once, when I was working security at a G'n'R concert in '91. Maybe all the fanboys on this list are well-adjusted, attractive, successful men NOW.... but I'll bet dollars to doughnuts it wasn't always that way.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Heh, heh, I will not lay any claim to being a well-adjusted, attractive, successful man now. I was a geek and I am a geek, and I remember how it was in high school. I am married now, but then as now I have my share of unsavory thoughts and fantasies, but the catfight one just never did it for me.<P>Hey, maybe this could be it. Perhaps some guys feel deep down that women can't or won't really fight in a catfight, thus won't do any real damage, just pull hair, slap, and rip clothes until they're rolling around half-naked surrounded by a circle of drooling fanboys (sorry for the imagery). <P>I, on the other hand, had an older sister who was a tomboy and, when I was picked on in elementary school, offered to come over and kick butt for me. When she was in college, some guy on a motorcycle was following her on the highway and making suggestive gestures, and pulled over when she pulled over. She got out of her car, carrying the hatchet she always kept hidden under the driver's seat, to have a little talk with him. He drove off very quickly. She's a bit of a berserker. I have no doubt that women, in a fight, can do real damage.<P>--Tuscahoma<p>[This message has been edited by Tuscahoma (edited 05-18-2001).]

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tuscahoma:
I have no doubt that women, in a fight, can do real damage. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I have seen a couple of fights in my day, and for my money, women were always the most vicious. I remember when I was in junior high, all those moons ago, and every day coming home from school there would be a fight. Every day, and it always the girl fights that made you wince: Horrible Scratching and tearing, one girl just smashing the other girls face into the street over and over and over, Heavy stuff. Same in High school, and college, women go in for blood.<P>

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Someone (Tuscahoma?) asked this question inside another topic, and it never got answered, and I was curious about it too, so here goes... <P>Why exactly is a catfight such a turn-on for men? I have a couple of ideas...<P>a) The ego-trip theory: some part of the subconscious is thinking, "Hey, they're fighting over <I>me</I>. I'm hot stuff." This one's kind of obscure, and I know that as a female I've never thought the same thing about seeing men fight, but who knows.<P>b) The girl-on-girl action theory: this is one I'm still wondering about... why is lesbian porn a draw for men? As a matter of fact, why do so many female fanfic writers write male/male stories? What is it about seeing two of the opposite sex getting it on that makes people excited? This theory asks more questions than it answers.<P>c) The sweating and heavy-breathing theory: is it just the sight of good-looking people exerting themselves physically that observers find sexy? I can sort of identify with that one... refer to Antonio Banderas forging a sword blade in <I>The Thirteenth Warrior</I>... *drool*. Um, heh heh. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"><P>Anyways... yes, I do think something is seriously wrong with Tim. If you're turned on by watching movies or reading stories about catfights, fine-- that's just fiction. If you see two of your friends fighting it out in real life and seriously injuring each other, and the first thing you think of is that it's sexy, there's a problem.

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Thanks for continuing this thread. I really do want to know.<P>I can at least kind of understand the attraction to seeing two people of the opposite sex making love; it's not my big fantasy, but if you enjoy seeing one person naked, then maybe seeing two is even better (actually, I think it's more than that, I think most guys think, if even subconsciously, that somehow they might be included, which is I suppose a big ego trip, look I can make it with TWO women).<P>But the catfight thing? Okay, if it's pretend, then yeah, seeing two attractive people exert and get sweaty could be exciting. But this was real. This was his friends. Ouch. Maybe I'm being too hard on Tim, maybe he's still out of it and doesn't realize the gravity of the situation. But, according to Rikk's assessment, Alisin is seriously injured.<P>I think Tim is basically a good guy who didn't think out the consequences, but given what's happened, he will be doing some serious soul-searching; he should have intervened, if even to shout at them to stop or yell for help. I think that may haunt them.<P>Oh, not to make this too serious, let me end back with the original topic. Anyone else out there who wishes to throw in their two bits as to why catfights rile up a fanboy? Inquiring minds want to know.<P>--Tuscahoma

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I have no idea. <P>I've never been into catfights or lesbian porn (I've always seen lesbian couples as TWO women not likely to be interested in me. No turn-on there). The most logical-seeming answer to me seems your choice c) hot, sweaty, bodies.<P>My question to those who DO like catfights is how they feel about seeing women getting injured or damaged. Do any of our catfight fans like to watch women's boxing?<P>Perhaps there are those who, like our Rikk, like to be the hero or strong one comforting a fallen damsel? Or maybe some fanboys are into submission and get turned on by a woman who could throw them down onto the ground and have their way with them? <P>Your guess is as good as mine. *shrug*

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Personally I'm not interested in catfights, but two women in hand to hand combat is great fun to watch. Like the dagger fight in the Mummy returns martial arts have always seemed more like a dance than a boxing match to me. (part of the reason I learned in the first place)<P>Part of the interest in that situation is knowing that you wouldn't HAVE to be the protector. It is a rare and wonderfull thing to find a woman who isn't afraid to fight for themselves.<P>---<P>Or maybe I'm just odd.

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I have to say that I think women, when angered, fight with more ferocity and fewer scruples than men can possibly imagine. Women, in my opinion and experience, go into most fights realizing that they are at a disadvantage of size, strength, weight, sometimes even experience etc, and therefore make up for it by becoming absolutely amoral berzerkers. It's a tactic that often works surprisingly well. I love that about my gender. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/biggrin.gif"><P>-Wish
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lysscat:
<B>As to why women like to think about two men together - I was introduced to ASB by my first girlfriend, and it snowballed from there. Heh. My first post ever to this forum, and of course it's to voice my opinion on porn. Typical.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Okay, I think I know the answer, but I have to ask anyway. What is ASB?<P>--Tuscahoma

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wish:
<B>I have to say that I think women, when angered, fight with more ferocity and fewer scruples than men can possibly imagine. Women, in my opinion and experience, go into most fights realizing that they are at a disadvantage of size, strength, weight, sometimes even experience etc, and therefore make up for it by becoming absolutely amoral berzerkers. It's a tactic that often works surprisingly well. I love that about my gender</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, I'm the one with the middle sister who's a berserker (see story above, in fact, my youngest sister has a berserker story as well, remind me to tell it someday), but I have heard of dojos that specialize in teaching self-defense to women (we have one here in Austin), and this might not be as true to day, but a lot had to first train women to get over the fear of hurting someone. I think when my daughter gets old enough, I'm going to enroll her in martial arts training.<P>--Tuscahoma

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Acording to my basic grasp of human sexual phsychology - the 'lesbian porn' draw is along the same lines as any other consipicuous waist fantasy. The poor dream of burning money, the hungry of glutting and letting food rot, etc.<P>A person whom is or has experienced sexual starvation at some point in his life - for males, the range of early puberty being an excelent example - is likely to dream of something equally indulgently waistfull. IE: more than one can reasonably use at a given moment.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lysscat:
[BMy first post ever to this forum, and of course it's to voice my opinion on porn. Typical.
Lyss =^_^=
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"Acording to my basic grasp of human sexual phsychology - the 'lesbian porn' draw is along the same lines as any other consipicuous waist fantasy. The poor dream of burning money, the hungry of glutting and letting food rot, etc.
A person whom is or has experienced sexual starvation at some point in his life - for males, the range of early puberty being an excelent example - is likely to dream of something equally indulgently waistfull. IE: more than one can reasonably use at a given moment"<P>No way. For me, the draw of lesbian porn is - "Hey, I'm a chick. If I were there, maybe they'd let me play too." Two people is *not* more than I could reasonably deal with. :x) I've been told that for guys, part of it is an ego trip, deep down they're certain that they're so manly they could woo both women, if they had the chance - but maybe the answer doesn't need to be that complicated. Women are sexy. Two women = double sexy. As to why women like to think about two men together - I was introduced to ASB by my first girlfriend, and it snowballed from there. Heh. My first post ever to this forum, and of course it's to voice my opinion on porn. Typical.
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In my experience, a woman determined to fight somebody is far more vicious than a man.<P>My theory is that is has to do with the images of fighting that people are exposed to. Guys grow up seeing boxing matches, pro wrestling, etc. and their inclination is to be like the "tough guys" they've seen. So they emulate it--putting up their dukes like boxers, throwing jabs and (clumsy) uppercuts, trying to bodyslam if they get close. They go for the knockout, or some sort of a pin. Women, on the other hand, don't identify (in general) with those images of male machismo, and so when they want to fight somebody they cut right to the chase and go for what causes the most pain and injury. Scratching, tearing hair, biting, real nasty stuff. Women go for the pain.<P>If two women don't really want to fight but think the situation demands it, you might see that slap-fighting silliness. But I saw enough times in high school when Maria slept with Lakeesha's boyfriend and Lakeesha found out, and it ends up looking like dueling bleeding Cuisinarts.<P>------------------
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The only think I have to add to this topic is a welcome aboard for Lysscat! Please feel free to discuss non-sexual topics as well (we do have one every now and then).

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