Inner-Prized

Nodrog · Post by **Nodrog** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 7:47 am

I'm sure today's comic will spawn a huge debate here, so let me get in first:I'm firmly on Rik's side on this issue. While it IS a little odd to have a trek series with -gasp- lyrics, I *love* the intro to Enterprized and, from what I've seen of it, it's a pretty good series. And I'd pit Archer's dog against Picard's gold-fish, Sisko's baseball, and Kirk's tribble (what, you thought that was hair on top of his head?) any day.(Considering how Janeway's pet is either Hairy Kim or Seven of Nine, depending on the time in series, I'm exempting her from the competition)

KingLeon · Post by **KingLeon** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:17 am

I have no idea what the comic is about, but then I am a Farscape fan.

Pennyangelos · Post by **Pennyangelos** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:22 am

I think it's kind of an idealist/cynic contrast, in which case, I'm mostly a Rikk.

Catz Bartlett · Post by **Catz Bartlett** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:34 am

I am, without a single, solitary doubt, a Rikk.Bakula's #4 on my list of Star Trek captains, behind Picard, Kirk, and Mackenzie, and even if the lyrical theme is a bit...unconventional...Well, isn't that what Star Trek's about in the first place?And I'm a Rikk with the cynic/optimist score as well...------------------
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Tom the Fanboy · Post by **Tom the Fanboy** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:27 am

I'd go with Rikk in general but at this point I'm Will with Trek. I've always been a SW fan though and I've been on defense so long I forget what that side of the court is like.Anyway, I really like the different takes on the starships. It reminded me of the Starship Applepies. I think that was the one on Muppet Babies. It might have been Boobieprize though.....
I also liked the stellar glow of Pikard's head. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/wink.gif">------------------
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Piichuu · Post by **Piichuu** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 2:39 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by muridae:
 I have a friend who says that since "Enterprise" takes place before the Original Series, then the tech should look like it. As in having a sort of pre-1960's look to it. -- M<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I would agree except for one thing: If the tech had suddenly appeared in the 60's, then I have no doubt that it might have looked as depicted. The problem is, a lot of our existing tech (cell phones, diagnostic equipment) that is being made now looks much more futuristic than the tech displayed in ST:TOS. I believe that if the original series were remade today, a lot of the tech would look different. I respect the fact that the creators are keeping the rounded nacelles, the pistol grip weapons, and actual rocket torpedoes, but I also understand (and am willing to suspend disbelief enough) that there is going to be visual discrepencies. The only one I have issue with is the one I mentioned above.This has been a Piichuu Rant

Nadriel · Post by **Nadriel** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 2:54 am

Me, I'm more a Babylon 5 fan than either of the others, although I like both the other groups too...------------------
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R Wyatt · Post by **R Wyatt** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 5:05 am

They've only shown the first three episodes on sky over here, but so far I'm not loving the intro. Just seems so wrong to have lyrics, and it's not as dramatic as the others. Still, the actual show (so far) has been better than the original series (I know there's gong to be lots of people shouting at me for that, but I never particularly liked it anyway).

Gormenghastly · Post by **Gormenghastly** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 5:48 am

Edit to remove duplicate post caused by browser wonkiness.[This message has been edited by Gormenghastly (edited 01-24-2002).]

Vincegamer · Post by **Vincegamer** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 6:27 am

I haven't seen the new series, but I can tell you for a fact that Gene Roddenberry wrote lyrics for the original Star Trek series. And I can also tell you they are really really bad.
I don't remember the whole thing, but for the truly curious I can find where they are published (my brother has the book they appear in - it was written in the middle of season 2)
It starts out:
"Beyond the rim of starlight
my love is wandering in star-flight
I know he'll find in star clustered reaches,
Love, the love a star woman teaches"
It just gets worse from there.

Gormenghastly · Post by **Gormenghastly** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 6:28 am

I've found the Enterprise theme song to be like the show itself: better than I expected.This probably says bad things about me, but I admit part of why I like the theme song is that I get joy out of thinking of all the people who make annoying loud noises about how awful it is having to sit through it every week and getting angry about it all over again.Of course I still get the same joy out of R.E.M.'s "Shiny Happy People" even after all this time.Though I also like the Enterprise theme because at least we get some words. The song isn't as cool as the voiceovers on TOS and TNG, but way better than the all music DS9 and Voyager themes.(And all this from someone who swore after a few seasons of Voyager that he would never watch Trek again.)

T Campbell · Post by **T Campbell** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 6:33 am

Welcome, Vincegamer.The full treatment:Beyond
the rim of starlight
My love
is wand'ring in star-flight.
I know he'll find in star-clustered reaches
Love, strange love a star-woman teaches.
I know
His journey ends never
His star trek
Will go on forever.
But tell him
While he wanders his starry sea
Remember, remember me.I've GOT to wonder what it was like to be married to this guy.

RebLaw · Post by **RebLaw** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 6:41 am

mmmmmmmmm

that was a good episode tonight.. Ilike watching the show, but I hate how stupid it is sometimes... the alien doctor brought up a good point this time, that it's pointless to watch someone elses, that time is best spent on one's own life

RebLaw

James_Rayner · Post by **James_Rayner** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:44 am

This part is all about the Teccies...Maybe in the Times of war, The Different Fan Cultures Split apart and decide to fight one another for total fan supremicy...

Piichuu · Post by **Piichuu** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:48 am

I have to say, I started out like Will. Now I'm Rikk (to the point of having downloaded the old ROd Stewart version of the song). And here's why:The theme of Enterprise is that it's before the space faring days, everything's an adventure, we know what the hell we're doing and all that. THis is when everything's new. We still have points of boring inactivity where we just can't learn anymore (After all, there are very few children on this Enterprise). To me, a theme song with lyrics (let alone those lyrics) is completely appropriate. Even though I did go "Oh my GOD" when I first heard it.(Spoiler alert - Just in case you haven't seen the series premiere)If I have one complaint, it's that there are continuity errors. I'm not talking about the "old" tech looking 50 times newer than the "newer" tech of ST:TOS. I'm talking about the ridgey foreheads on Klingons. They went to the trouble of explaining why there WEREN'T ridgey for the DS9 episode (well, maybe not explain, but it was noticed and acknowledged), why make them ridgey this time?Ah well. All in all, I like the series.------------------
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Nodrog · Post by **Nodrog** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:52 am

In response to today's strip:She's a vulcan forced to work with humans. OF COURSE she's going to come off is frigid...Though: Anyone think that she had a bad relationship with a human in her time in the embasy?Note: I'm talking about T'Paul here.

JunkyardDawg · Post by **JunkyardDawg** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 8:29 am

...although that would explain a lot about Shanna...

FanboyTemplate · Post by **FanboyTemplate** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 8:43 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by James_Rayner:
This part is all about the Teccies...Maybe in the Times of war, The Different Fan Cultures Split apart and decide to fight one another for total fan supremicy...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, I know I can only speak for the parts of fandom that I'm a member of, but for the most part, fandom sticks together. Now, there are documented civil war debacles within certain cultures (Those who love or hate the title "Attack of the Clones"), but if it came down to the total banning or ruination of any certain sect, I like to believe that the Star Warz crowd would lend a helping hand to the Teccies.But maybe it's just that. Maybe the General is targeting certain sectors of fandom for dismantlement. After all, that's where our Thack's plan for domination hit a major snag: he tried to take fandom out in one fell swoop. What if, instead, he had initiated a corporate takeover of fandom instead?1) Dismantle figureheads
2) Headhunt the up & coming hotshots
3) Buy access into the competitionWhat if Thack had bought the rights to Star Warz, Star Tecc, XYZ Files and the rest, and then polluted them with bad plots and decreased budgets. High profile Fan Icons like those shows would have had much less of a following, and thus less resistance.What if Thack had siezed control of Muffy the Vampyre Slayer or Babel-O-5 in their infancy, and kept them from developing into fan-worth shows? Again, Fandom is crippled.What if Thack had simply manipulated the contracts of any decent writer, actor, or producer for fandom, directing them towards the mainstream? you get the idea.So I guess my question is...What's keeping the General from doing this to our Fans' universe?- Fanboy Template
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Tienelle · Post by **Tienelle** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 9:15 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by FanboyTemplate:
 1) Dismantle figureheads
2) Headhunt the up & coming hotshots
3) Buy access into the competition
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And then, there are some who say that this has already happened... <G>

Muridae · Post by **Muridae** » Wed Jan 23, 2002 9:21 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Piichuu:
If I have one complaint, it's that there are continuity errors. I'm not talking about the "old" tech looking 50 times newer than the "newer" tech of ST:TOS. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I have a friend who says that since "Enterprise" takes place before the Original Series, then the tech should look like it. As in having a sort of pre-1960's look to it. -- M------------------
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