Oh, I'm sure it exists, but you just don't see too much of it. Might have something to do with the fact that the GLBT community only makes up 2 or 3% of the country's population.
...uh, no, it's not 10%. That's a misconception. Some idiot activists took someone's skewed survey (Kinsey, I think it was), added up the percentages of men and women who said they were gay, lesbian or bi, and I think that either gave them 10 or 20%. If the latter, they probably divided it by 2, to "reflect the split in gender" or something.
In reality, most surveys conducted on the issue only registered around 2 or 3%, and the one that scored highest (6% in another country I think) was reported to have had some questionable tactics.
...uh, no, I'm quite sure of my source. I mean, c'mon. It was from my college psychiatry book. They wouldn't lie, would they?
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Actually they don't. No gay characters. No gay jokes. No gay insults. No gay anything. There's not a blip to be found. And that's perfectly fine. Not every movie, show, and webcomic needs to have a GLBT reference. Quite a few wouldn't benefit if they didn't. RHJ doesn't have any in his. That's his call. He could just as easily run a story arc depicting gay men as rampant pederasts lusting after qwentin. He could just as easily run a story arc depicting gay characters as good people with a different lifestyle. He's an incredably talented storyteller and artist, and while I may not agree with his political or religious proclaimations, I still respect his opinion. If he doesn't want homosexuality to exist in his world, it won't exist. Ever. And that's his right and perogative.
As far as homosexuality goes in the real world, that's a matter for debate. The most credable survey done off of demographics from the US census puts the number around 4.6% of the population. Remember, many GLBT people do not live an open lifestyle, and when surveyed will answer how they feel to be safest. There have been occurances where churches in the south-east conducted such surveys and then visited much greif on those who answered falsely. Whether 1 in 10, 1 in 25, or 1 in 50 it doesn't change the fact that homosexuals do exist, our lifestyle causes no actual harm to others, and that we are entitled to all rights granted to straighties.
I think what Jam is talking about is the one where this protestor is marching around yelling, "We want our rights!" over and over. Nip's sitting on a bus bench getting rathed PO'd until he finally puts the guy in his place (and you may not have noticed, but RH added the words "gay rites" to the sign in the book; the original strip on the Super CD doesn't have them).
Two panels later, the guy is screaming "Hate criminal!" and pointing at Nip.
Nip (thinking): "Welp, that din't take long..."
I'd find the link, but I've plenty sweets here to munch on, thanks. ^_^
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In that "it doesnt exist in his world," I detect a less than subtle dig.
No, there's no mention of homosexuality in my comic strips.
There's no mention of a lot of things in the strip. look. There are a LOT of things that are not going to be discussed in my comic. like cervical warts, or the contents of the local phonebook, or the state of the kumquat trade in bolivia. Reason? Because they're either GROSS, BORING, or HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMIC.
And, newsflash, homosexuality manages to be ALL THREE.
Yes, GROSS, because no matter how mad it makes you, what gays consider a hot saturday night makes the other 98% of the population want to toss their lunch;
BORING, because there isn't a single damn corner of society that isn't having the holy hell pestered out of it by people who want "representation" far beyond their actual statistical representation solely for the fact they like to play Bite the Pillow. Gays in the military, Gay "support" groups in the schools, Gay Day in Disneyland, Gay Pride marches where every exhibitionist in the country is dragged together and let off the leash, Gay movies, gay characters in <I>every single damn TV show, paperback novel, Comic book, and newspaper comic...</I> begging your damn pardon, but I think at least ONE of us shall refrain from fawning over your "sexual liberation," just this once.
especially as IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMICS--- one of which is about a rural community of TALKING ANIMALS in a FICTIONAL COUNTY in the AMERICAN HEARTLAND, the second of which is about a TALKING BEAR and his COUGAR WIFE who run a HAUNTED ARCADE, and the third of which is about a race of MAGICAL RACCOONS in a MEDIEVEL FANTASY WORLD. The topic of Homosexuality has about as much to do with the plot, environment and themes of these comics as Elvis Presley had to do with the Polka.
Just because an author does not choose to dwell on every little peccadillo of fringe society does not make his or her work incomplete.
"What was that popping noise ?"
"A paradigm shifting without a clutch."
--Dilbert
True Ralph...there is no mention anywhere in any of your comics, and I for one thank you for it. The innuendo in N&T with Tagger and the candy-for-flowers bit was both well played and tastefully presented....and it was funny withOUT being gross or off color....and the point was well made.
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We are NOT surrounded.....this is a "target rich" environment!
Ralph, your opinions are your opinions, and you are certainly entitled to them. Speaking as one of the 97% or 98% or whatever, heterosexual population, I don't find gay gross. Frankly I just don't care either way. What consenting adults do with or to each other concerns me a great deal less than more pressing world issues. However, I don't find their lobbying for equal rights a problem either, since I also think that the sheer...vitriol...that they face in everyday life is completely OTT, given that there ARE far more pressing issues in the world. I don't think anyone should have to face that kind of fear, anger, hatred or disgust simply for how they're born.
So anyway, yeah, it has nothing to do with your comics, it has nothing to do with your world(s), and has nothing to do with your opinions. I just want you to be aware that when you say "what gays consider a hot saturday night makes the other 98% of the population want to toss their lunch"; you are not actually speaking for that whole 98%. You are certainly not entitled to decide my opinion for me.
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Luna_Northcat wrote:(...) I don't think anyone should have to face that kind of fear, anger, hatred or disgust simply for how they're born.
So anyway, yeah, it has nothing to do with your comics, it has nothing to do with your world(s), and has nothing to do with your opinions. I just want you to be aware that when you say "what gays consider a hot saturday night makes the other 98% of the population want to toss their lunch"; you are not actually speaking for that whole 98%. You are certainly not entitled to decide my opinion for me.
Hear, hear! I have no problem with Ralph not including gays in his comic strips if he doesn't have any reason to include them. But I have friends that are gay, and some of the things that people say about them are far more likely to make me want to "toss my lunch" than anything they may wish to do on a Saturday night.
Luna_Northcat wrote:
...I don't find their lobbying for equal rights a problem either...
There is a group of people who are discriminated against by health care companies, by insurance companies, by city and even state governments because they practice what has been recognized by many as unsafe lifestyle which also affects those around them.
Smokers.
Smokers are not an ethnic minority, a religious group, or any other group, except that they make the choice to set fire to plants and ingest the smoke.
Homosexuals are not a religious or ethnic minority, they choose to do something that is every bit as risky, if not riskier than smokers. Their acts make them much more susceptible to diseases and certain types of physiological disorders than non homosexuals. Their actions can result in the arising of new diseases which can spread into the heterosexual population. So they affect those around them as much (if in different ways) as smokers.
Smoking is a choice. Homosexuality is a choice. Smoking is being suppressed and regulated. Homosexuality is being promoted and supported.
There are all sorts of programs to help people stop smoking. Programs to stop homosexual practices should be promoted as well.
There's no insanity in my family. *I* have it all!!
There are thousands of homosexuals who tried desperately to change their sexual orientation but ultimately accepted themselves as they are, who would strongly disagree with you on that point.
Most gays don't "choose" to be gay; they're born with that, um, bent. It is not a "lifestyle choice" and there hasn't been any program in history which can "cure" it. Those programs only succeed in making people miserable. And it's not like homosexuality is catching; if you make it safe for people to be gay without getting grief for it, more people aren't going to become homosexual, because, put simply, heterosexual proclivities are inborn too. I have had some good friends who were gay or lesbian, and there is nothing on earth that would ever have convinced me to lean in their direction. "Promoting" homosexuality isn't trying to sell people into homosexuality, that's just scare tactics. It's just about letting people who are homosexual anyway not hate themselves for it, and not have to face discrimination because of it.
Anyway, by your argument, there should be positive rewards for lesbians, since they are much, much LESS likely to catch or transmit STDs.
<i>Forte est vinu. Fortier est rex. Fortiores sunt mulieres: sup om vincit veritas.</i>
Homosexuality may not be a choice, but what a homosexual does IS a choice. THAT was the point. Throughout history, people both gay and straight have been celibate or found alternate avenues for sexual energy.
There's no insanity in my family. *I* have it all!!
