That face.

Shyal_malkes · Post by **Shyal_malkes** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:47 am

sounds like you should have made him a slug so he'd be more 'Jabba the Hutt' ish.

I can still hear wierd al's song (I think it was his) "Boba Fett was so mean, Jabba had bad hygene. oh why didn't they all relax back on Tattooine?"

gotta love that song.

Sciguy · Post by **Sciguy** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:28 pm

Mike Fang wrote:Ooookay, well, I think that there's no doubt that fat ass is going to have a coronary by the time the movie's over, heheheheh.

Now the question is, once he falls on his ass, are Nip and crew going to get caught in the aftershock?

Okay, let's consider a few possibilities.

1. Fat ass tries to sue them for breach of contract. He'd ultimately fail, 'cause they infact did record his movie, they just also produced THEIR movie and swaped them out for the filming. (I think. If that was, in fact, his final copy that was altered and not a seperate reel of film, he might have a case. And let's face it, with today's court system, he'd win 'cause he can afford the most expensive lawyer.)

2. He could try to press criminal charges. That'd be a laugh. Most he's got is destruction of property, and even that might be a stretch since the crew had the authority to do that kind of work.

3. He tries to sue for intangable damages. That is probably the most serious possibilty. Journalists can get sued for libel and slander because of damages to reputation. Mr. Thickburger could probably make good argument that failing to follow his script caused his reputation irreprable harm.

Whatever happens, I think it's going to be difficult for Nip and his accomplices to come out of this completely unscathed. The justice system is just so deeply affected by the "to the hightest bidder" sort of process. They will probably win, if they've covered all their bases, 'cause even the sleaziest lawyer can't deny it when the letter of the law (or in this case, contract) has been met. But going through a trail is a bitch and a half on your wallet.

That last option is a dubble edged sword. They could do the same since their rep is also on the line if the original vision of the director is the movie that hits the public.

But hey, all those defendants being sued by one powerful man. All you need is a jury to see one asshole ganging up on a large group of victims. His own liberial views of a big powerful boss bullying a repressed group of people would bite the director in the ass.

Gotta love the irony of that idea.

Mike Fang · Post by **Mike Fang** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:55 am

Sciguy wrote:
That last option is a dubble edged sword. They could do the same since their rep is also on the line if the original vision of the director is the movie that hits the public.

But hey, all those defendants being sued by one powerful man. All you need is a jury to see one asshole ganging up on a large group of victims. His own liberial views of a big powerful boss bullying a repressed group of people would bite the director in the ass.

Gotta love the irony of that idea.

Maybe, but remember how our current justice system tends to be. Money = Favoritism. You got the scratch, you win the case.

Also, that liberal point of view only applies when the group isn't conservatives. Then a different point of view applies: the brave lone liberal underdog director trying to prevail against the insideous, devious scheming of the slimy right wingers ganging up on him.

Chaser617 · Post by **Chaser617** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:26 pm

I was friends with the Media Com majors at my school, now granted, this was a small, conservitive christian school, but the media com department was one of the highest rated and respected in the nation, in fact, they're one of the very few allowed to do work for the olympics.

I say this to make the point that everyone in MCD hated Moore because of what they thought he did to their profession. In fact, several of my friends were looking forward to jobs at Lucas Arts because that meant they'd never have to deal with Moore, Lucas from their, and my understanding, can't stand the SOB and has turned him down several times. I think its funny how he makes fun of everyone, heck, a while back he called Peter Jackson a fat pig.

Narnian · Post by **Narnian** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:00 pm

StrangeWulf13 wrote:*manages to sneak in a camera and start taping, hoping Moby's anctics won't be too loud*

Hmm... should be an interesting film... and the bootlegs will make a nice profit for Solidus' operation...

Is this for the lobotomy or vasectomy?

Mikhail Dragoslav · Post by **Mikhail Dragoslav** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:51 pm

I wonder if maybe it might have better for the actors to just go along and do the movie that was written...wait, hear me out.

Has anyone here ever heard of B-Fest? It's an all night movie fest of the worst, shlockiest B-movies ever made. Movies too bad to show up on Mystery Sciecne Theater. (If anyone here has seen "Manos: The Hands of Fate" then know that I pray for your lost soul)

The movies are often funny (but more often painful) because the characters and actors are too earnest, too over the top. It ends up ruining the movie (well, that and the actual plot) and its impossible to take seriously, especially if the plot stinks to begin with. (See: The Swarm, Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, etc.) Perhaps that's something else the crew could've done. Given it the old 'Springtime for Hitler' treatment a la The Producers.

If the movie became a laughingstock, then the rep of lard-butt would be ruined. Or better yet, it'd be so popular (as a comedy) that he might be pressured to make more movies that are impossible to take seriously and undermine the whole "genre".

Kerry Skydancer · Post by **Kerry Skydancer** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:15 pm

I think we've all been overlooking something here - the VIP's are his -investors-, and early on it was established that even they didn't know who they had except for 'a famous Hollywood director'. What if Hungry Hungry Hippo was trying to get funding from the right to make this flick? They'd have had to allow its release to try to get -anything- back on their investment, but ... they are the actual owners.

Even if HHH shows them his version, which do you think they'll go for? I don't think there will be any problems at all.

Sciguy · Post by **Sciguy** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:56 pm

Mikhail Dragoslav wrote:I wonder if maybe it might have better for the actors to just go along and do the movie that was written...wait, hear me out.

Has anyone here ever heard of B-Fest? It's an all night movie fest of the worst, shlockiest B-movies ever made. Movies too bad to show up on Mystery Sciecne Theater. (If anyone here has seen "Manos: The Hands of Fate" then know that I pray for your lost soul)

The movies are often funny (but more often painful) because the characters and actors are too earnest, too over the top. It ends up ruining the movie (well, that and the actual plot) and its impossible to take seriously, especially if the plot stinks to begin with. (See: The Swarm, Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, etc.) Perhaps that's something else the crew could've done. Given it the old 'Springtime for Hitler' treatment a la The Producers.

If the movie became a laughingstock, then the rep of lard-butt would be ruined. Or better yet, it'd be so popular (as a comedy) that he might be pressured to make more movies that are impossible to take seriously and undermine the whole "genre".

Torgo aside...

Forget how well the flick could bomb or make as Misting fodder.

If Moore's view went through it would most likely brand Nip and the other actors with the taint of being connected with a largely anti-American film, completely missrepresenting their own well heald beleafs.

Calbeck · Post by **Calbeck** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:03 pm

Like Gary Busey?

That Turkish flick is making headlines in Europe and the US now, and the apologists are out in force of course --- it seems that whenever the US produces a flick that shows someone of Arab/Islamic background doing something bad (including things that historically happened), the Arab/Islamic community flips out about it.

But now that Arab/Islamics have produced a flick that shows US troops doing things that their own fellow soldiers would likely shoot them for in real life (like surrounding themselves with kids as a human shield --- excuse me, but HUSSEIN'S TROOPS did that, not ours) --- well, NOW it's "just a movie", and "it's a niche market", and "everyone knows Americans have a good side", and pretty much all the statements that never mean a damn thing to Arab/Islamics when coming from Hollywood.

IronFox · Post by **IronFox** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:30 pm

Calbeck wrote: But now that Arab/Islamics have produced a flick that shows US troops doing things that their own fellow soldiers would likely shoot them for in real life (like surrounding themselves with kids as a human shield --- excuse me, but HUSSEIN'S TROOPS did that, not ours) --- well, NOW it's "just a movie", and "it's a niche market", and "everyone knows Americans have a good side", and pretty much all the statements that never mean a damn thing to Arab/Islamics when coming from Hollywood.

It is a small group of sad facts that many people out here in california believe that 1)just because somebody has an opinion, everybody should listen to it, 2) what everyone has to say carries the same weight, regardless of truth, and 3) because of these fallacies, if anyone puts out a dissenting (read: Conservative) opinion, the noble defenders of the working man must quash these [sarcasm] phony lies [/sarcasm].

This has been mostly my experience in Santa Cruz, although it does continue to a certain extent in the most liberal parts of California (the coastal regions, mostly)

Maxgoof · Post by **Maxgoof** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:22 pm

IronFox wrote: It is a small group of sad facts that many people out here in california believe that 1)just because somebody has an opinion, everybody should listen to it, 2) what everyone has to say carries the same weight, regardless of truth, and 3) because of these fallacies, if anyone puts out a dissenting (read: Conservative) opinion, the noble defenders of the working man must quash these [sarcasm] phony lies [/sarcasm].

It can be boiled down to two simple rules, really:

1) If it supports the liberal agenda, then it is either: a) the truth, or b) just a movie.
2) If it supports the conservative agenda, then it is either: a) a shiboleth, or b) an outright lie.

Kerry Skydancer · Post by **Kerry Skydancer** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:10 am

Kerry Skydancer wrote:I think we've all been overlooking something here - the VIP's are his -investors-, and early on it was established that even they didn't know who they had except for 'a famous Hollywood director'. What if Hungry Hungry Hippo was trying to get funding from the right to make this flick? They'd have had to allow its release to try to get -anything- back on their investment, but ... they are the actual owners.

Even if HHH shows them his version, which do you think they'll go for? I don't think there will be any problems at all.

Heehee. Don't usually quote myself, but .... toldja so!