After all, they're running this hospital.
Happy hunting, my friend.
Show no mercy.Hey, Sharuuk... got a new target for ya.
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StrangeWulf13
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Hey, Sharuuk... got a new target for ya.
If anyone sees Sharuuk, be sure to point him this way. I've got some new targets for him to test his experimental weapons on. They're easy to find.
After all, they're running this hospital.
Happy hunting, my friend. Show no mercy.
After all, they're running this hospital.
Happy hunting, my friend.
Show no mercy.I'm lost. I've gone to find myself. If I should return before I get back, please ask me to wait. Thanks.
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The JAM
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Good evening.
There are a few doctors in Mexico City who would also require his...services.
There have been several incidents where doctors (or at least, shift supervisors), not only close hospitals late at night (on the excuse of insufficient staff or equipment), but actively REFUSE emergency patients for purely bureacratic reasons (i.e., wrong insurance, doctor on dinner break, etc.). A while back, a woman in labor, broken water, had to ride an ambulance for EIGHT hours during the night all over the city searching for a hospital who would take her in. Doctors refused her and referred her to other hospitals who referred her to other hospitals who then said that they didn't have an incubator available....to the point that when the morning news shows began she was STILL being driven around the city. Both major networks picked up her story and their helicopters were following the ambulance all over town and it wasn't until the Mexican Surgeon General saw the story on TV that something began to be done. She was in City Hall giving a press conference with the mayor when one of the reporters got the alert and asked her to watch the story on TV right in the press room. Basically, she called up the ambulance and told them to go to the nearest hospital and ORDERED the doctors there to assist birth while she called up another hospital and ORDERED them to bring an incubator to the woman by ambulance.
Reporters rushed to the hospitals where the woman had been refused and tried to talk to the doctors on call, but naturally, they ran off.
In the end, they didn't need an incubator, and the baby is fine, but the whole incident just stinks.
My sister-in-law had a few issues with hospitals when she gave birth to her last baby, but nothing as bad as the above.
Good evening.
There are a few doctors in Mexico City who would also require his...services.
There have been several incidents where doctors (or at least, shift supervisors), not only close hospitals late at night (on the excuse of insufficient staff or equipment), but actively REFUSE emergency patients for purely bureacratic reasons (i.e., wrong insurance, doctor on dinner break, etc.). A while back, a woman in labor, broken water, had to ride an ambulance for EIGHT hours during the night all over the city searching for a hospital who would take her in. Doctors refused her and referred her to other hospitals who referred her to other hospitals who then said that they didn't have an incubator available....to the point that when the morning news shows began she was STILL being driven around the city. Both major networks picked up her story and their helicopters were following the ambulance all over town and it wasn't until the Mexican Surgeon General saw the story on TV that something began to be done. She was in City Hall giving a press conference with the mayor when one of the reporters got the alert and asked her to watch the story on TV right in the press room. Basically, she called up the ambulance and told them to go to the nearest hospital and ORDERED the doctors there to assist birth while she called up another hospital and ORDERED them to bring an incubator to the woman by ambulance.
Reporters rushed to the hospitals where the woman had been refused and tried to talk to the doctors on call, but naturally, they ran off.
In the end, they didn't need an incubator, and the baby is fine, but the whole incident just stinks.
My sister-in-law had a few issues with hospitals when she gave birth to her last baby, but nothing as bad as the above.
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SolidusRaccoon
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Yeah seen that Wulf, I allready have plans for them.
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.
Always a cop-out. Often these people compare it to shooting injured horses -- but if you're honest, you don't really shoot horses because it's "mercy", you shoot them because they're no longer any use to you -- they can't work, or race, or whatever it was they were doing, so they've gone from being an asset to a liability.
Death with dignity. The dignity of being put down like a rabid dog, of having your life disposed of like garbage. Well, if that's dignity, I'll take ignominy any day, pal.
Death with dignity. The dignity of being put down like a rabid dog, of having your life disposed of like garbage. Well, if that's dignity, I'll take ignominy any day, pal.
There can be a fine line between the goal of releaving pain combined with the necessities of battle-field type triage* and the sort of thing y'all are talking about. It would, indeed, sound like that line was crossed in AT LEAST some of these cases.
The following line makes me wonder about the exact percentage that crossed that line:
*IE the sort of reasoning that says: We could save this one guy who is REALLY torn up, but by the time we do that these other two who are in slightly better shape will be past the point of no return, and we could save both of those two instead.
I do not pretend to be an really knowledgible on this sort of thing(that requires having actually BEEN there at least once, and possibly a lot more study than I have put into the subject), and only provide the above explaination of terms for those who are even less familiar with this subject than I am.
The following line makes me wonder about the exact percentage that crossed that line:
Revealing pain can be a GOOD thing even if that means shortening remaining life, but NOT with that as the goal, but as an unfortunate side effect.In some cases the drugs may have speeded up the death process.
*IE the sort of reasoning that says: We could save this one guy who is REALLY torn up, but by the time we do that these other two who are in slightly better shape will be past the point of no return, and we could save both of those two instead.
I do not pretend to be an really knowledgible on this sort of thing(that requires having actually BEEN there at least once, and possibly a lot more study than I have put into the subject), and only provide the above explaination of terms for those who are even less familiar with this subject than I am.