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- Kerry Skydancer
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Photo shoots. uuuuurgh. The very thought of photography literally makes my skin crawl and my guts curdle.
My father spent much of his life, prior to answering the call as a pastor, as a photographer... even attempting to start a freelance business of his own. Much of his work was photographing babies, and believe you me, it can be a trick getting the kid to look in just the right direction and smile long enough to snap the photo.... come to think of it, catching anyone at "just the right moment" can be tricky. Watching my dad work, and later (during a really bad time in my life) doing the trade WITH him, to try and get on my own feet, I learned a lot of the tricks of the trade.
I despise it with a visceral feral loathing.
Want a foretaste of hell? Go into business with your father. For an extra fillipit of pleasure, make it something you're not good at, that he practically does instinctively. Do it at a time where you're a complete and total washout in life, a worthless slacker who's had to move back in with his parents. Make it a business that he THOUGHT he loved but that he ended up rejecting to "answer his call" as a religious leader. Spend every possible moment finding new ways to screw up at the work. Spend a year marinating in your own shame, guilt, and depression till you'd finally rather sleep in the streets as a BUM than touch a freaking roll of film ever again. For flavor, add and extra twist of lemon in the papercut, and spend the rest of your life angsting over whether you're making the same mistake with art that your father says he did with photography....
Consequently anything that even remotely suggests a parallel to me in my work to photography sends me into a emotional melancholic tailspin that would make even a Goth start forking over the Ritalin.
My father spent much of his life, prior to answering the call as a pastor, as a photographer... even attempting to start a freelance business of his own. Much of his work was photographing babies, and believe you me, it can be a trick getting the kid to look in just the right direction and smile long enough to snap the photo.... come to think of it, catching anyone at "just the right moment" can be tricky. Watching my dad work, and later (during a really bad time in my life) doing the trade WITH him, to try and get on my own feet, I learned a lot of the tricks of the trade.
I despise it with a visceral feral loathing.
Want a foretaste of hell? Go into business with your father. For an extra fillipit of pleasure, make it something you're not good at, that he practically does instinctively. Do it at a time where you're a complete and total washout in life, a worthless slacker who's had to move back in with his parents. Make it a business that he THOUGHT he loved but that he ended up rejecting to "answer his call" as a religious leader. Spend every possible moment finding new ways to screw up at the work. Spend a year marinating in your own shame, guilt, and depression till you'd finally rather sleep in the streets as a BUM than touch a freaking roll of film ever again. For flavor, add and extra twist of lemon in the papercut, and spend the rest of your life angsting over whether you're making the same mistake with art that your father says he did with photography....
Consequently anything that even remotely suggests a parallel to me in my work to photography sends me into a emotional melancholic tailspin that would make even a Goth start forking over the Ritalin.
"What was that popping noise ?"
"A paradigm shifting without a clutch."
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"A paradigm shifting without a clutch."
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Not of little faith......just essentially the unknown age bracket on this forum...and I HAVE about a 1/2 dozen 16 rpm LP's.........cripes...now I feel even MORE ancient!!!!!Kerry Skydancer wrote:Oh ye of little faith. If we're old enough to remember records at all, we'll remember 33 1/3, 45, and 78. Now who else remembers 16 rpm LP's?
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OK RH.....the first part of the healing process is to not keep it all bottled up inside. C'mon....let it out....don't sugar coat it.....tell us how you REALLY feel!RHJunior wrote:Photo shoots. uuuuurgh. The very thought of photography literally makes my skin crawl and my guts curdle. I despise it with a visceral feral loathing.
(affectionate sarcasm mode: *off*)
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Good evening.
I share your pain, Ralph. I don't know how many times my dad scolded me for "not having dexterity" when he ordered me to help him in electronic and machine projects.
Turns out I have a slight case of dysgraphia, only recently discovered...
I remember having a turntable that had a 78 setting, though the only LPs we had of that speed were some German lessons, and one of old folk songs and/or stories, I think.
Good evening.
I share your pain, Ralph. I don't know how many times my dad scolded me for "not having dexterity" when he ordered me to help him in electronic and machine projects.
Turns out I have a slight case of dysgraphia, only recently discovered...
I remember having a turntable that had a 78 setting, though the only LPs we had of that speed were some German lessons, and one of old folk songs and/or stories, I think.
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Well, Mr. Ralph, I'm glad that you got into comics. Of course, I can't pay your bills for you (unless there's something up for auction that I'm just dying to have
), but your comics make life a little bit better for all of us.
For example, it was largely through Tales of the Questor that I explained to my father my interest in furries and my character Yuoo's personality. My father is a mental health counselor, and he is very active in the church (a deacon, at one time). For the most part, he isn't overbearing, but I've always, even today, aimed for his approval in what I do (or at least explaining why I like the things I like). I was especially pleased to show him the scenes about Rac Conan Christianity and the scene at Kestrel's school where they explain the workings of Lux and contrast it with "magic."
For example, it was largely through Tales of the Questor that I explained to my father my interest in furries and my character Yuoo's personality. My father is a mental health counselor, and he is very active in the church (a deacon, at one time). For the most part, he isn't overbearing, but I've always, even today, aimed for his approval in what I do (or at least explaining why I like the things I like). I was especially pleased to show him the scenes about Rac Conan Christianity and the scene at Kestrel's school where they explain the workings of Lux and contrast it with "magic."
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Good for you yuoo.
I made a funny!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.
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Good for you yuoo.
I made a funny!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.
Looks like you also made a 'number two', Solidus...
I can commiserate as well, RH. I too have suffered from a lack of direction - have you ever sold your blood plasma for gas money?
Anyway, I was lucky enough to finally land a job that I enjoy. Having money is always nice, but it doesn't help very much if you hate your job.
I can commiserate as well, RH. I too have suffered from a lack of direction - have you ever sold your blood plasma for gas money?
Anyway, I was lucky enough to finally land a job that I enjoy. Having money is always nice, but it doesn't help very much if you hate your job.
When trouble arises and things look bad, there's always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that individual is insane.
For some of use without drawing skills photography provides an outlet for our limited artistic abilities (see avatar - a tiger cub called "Ralph" by coincidence).RHJunior wrote:Photo shoots. uuuuurgh. The very thought of photography literally makes my skin crawl and my guts curdle.
I never became a professional because I liked photography too much to have to shoot kids and high school proms for a living. After a dozen weddings I happily retired.
Pax,
Richard
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"We are all fallen creatures and all very hard to live with", C. S. Lewis
Richard
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"We are all fallen creatures and all very hard to live with", C. S. Lewis
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Ouch! Ralph, I won't tell the details, but I can sympathize with your situation. As for the "I coulda been a contender" thing your Dad had going though, I think we all say things like that when our lives become set in their ways. I don't love my job but a few decades ago I was installing two-way radios in garbage trucks. After that, almost anything my boss tells me to do is just fine with me.. I'm certain there's something else I could do better and enjoy more if I could only figure out what it might be, but I'm just like most folks that way.
"The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."
I can't say whether publishing a comic will be your ultimate dream job, but you've kept at it awhile and you're more than just "good at it". I'm sorry to have brought up bad memories with the "Photographer" comments, but it does show that you learned from that part of your life and have been able to use what you learned. It isn't for nothing that they blather on about how art comes from suffering.
"The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."
I can't say whether publishing a comic will be your ultimate dream job, but you've kept at it awhile and you're more than just "good at it". I'm sorry to have brought up bad memories with the "Photographer" comments, but it does show that you learned from that part of your life and have been able to use what you learned. It isn't for nothing that they blather on about how art comes from suffering.
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And a very good one at that, Master Splinter. **Cowabunga!**SolidusRaccoon wrote:Good for you yuoo.I made a funny!!!!!!!!!!
Oh by the way. I know you've probably heard this a million times, but my name Yuoo is the Korean word for "fox," and I had a heck of a time finding a good English spelling for it. Audio clip: http://www.yuoofox.com/multimedia/myNameIsYuoo.wav
We "youngsters" aren't exactly in a vacuum. I'm in my mid-20's, and <i>I</i> certainly know what an LP record is: It's like a phonograph cylinder turned on its side and hammered out flat.Sharuuk wrote:I was going to say that but didn't think too many folks would've gotten it. No slam on all the other "oldsters" here!!
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I'm 27 and have a few LP's floating around.CasVeg wrote:We "youngsters" aren't exactly in a vacuum. I'm in my mid-20's, and <i>I</i> certainly know what an LP record is: It's like a phonograph cylinder turned on its side and hammered out flat.Sharuuk wrote:I was going to say that but didn't think too many folks would've gotten it. No slam on all the other "oldsters" here!!
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.
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You can still get turntables at most electronic outlets.CasVeg wrote:Who doesn't? My dad has a whole rack of them. Now, if we can only get the player to work. . . .SolidusRaccoon wrote:I'm 27 and have a few LP's floating around.
Yes, sir. I agree completely. It takes a well-balanced individual... such as yourself to rule the world. No, sir. No one knows that you were the third one... Solidus. ...What should I do about the woman? Yes sir. I'll keep her under surveillance. Yes. Thank you. Good-bye...... Mr. President.
That cylinder you've hammered flat for for an LP.....was that made of wax or Bakelite?CasVeg wrote:We "youngsters" aren't exactly in a vacuum. I'm in my mid-20's, and <i>I</i> certainly know what an LP record is: It's like a phonograph cylinder turned on its side and hammered out flat.
Hey....I go by experience.....I actually ran into a couple of late teen kids who had NO IDEA what a 45rpm record was......and I was holding one at the time.
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