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I see it. Looks great to me.<P>------------------
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Looks good to me (IE 5.5 on W2K)

Beautiful as always.<P>~Caleb

You've been at the "help desk" haven't you?<P>------------------
Just because you are paranoid, does not mean that people are not out to get you.

Good to go!<P>Netscape 4.73
Netscape 6
Mozilla 0.8

Here's two copies of a panel from a forthcoming ROCR story. One is a gif, the other a PNG. Can you see them both? Do they look the same?
<img src="http://users.bart.nl/~samizdat/pics/pngtest1.png">
<img src="http://users.bart.nl/~samizdat/pics/pngtest1.gif"><P>If you have a problem seeing those images, please respond, telling me what browser and OS you are using.<P>------------------
Reinder Dijkhuis
<A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/" TARGET=_blank>Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan</A>, Humorous fantasy strip, updated Mon-Fri, and really rather good. <A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/d/20000701.html" TARGET=_blank>Read it from the first strip!</A><p>[This message has been edited by reinder (edited 03-17-2001).]

Yes, I see them both ---- and WOW do I look forward to reading that story!<P>Geir

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Robert The Addled:
<B>You've been at the "help desk" haven't you?<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
Well, Chris is evangelising PNGs everywhere he can. If all goes well, I will switch to PNG after the guest fortnight.<P><P>------------------
Reinder Dijkhuis
<A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/" TARGET=_blank>Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan</A>, Humorous fantasy strip, updated Mon-Fri, and really rather good. <A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/d/20000701.html" TARGET=_blank>Read it from the first strip!</A>

They both look identical, Windows IE 5.50.45....<P>If my computer weren't dead I'd let you know how Opera does...<P>------------------
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Drat. In Netscape 4.7 for Linux, the transparent PNG doesn't work - at least not for me.<P>------------------
Reinder Dijkhuis
<A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/" TARGET=_blank>Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan</A>, Humorous fantasy strip, updated Mon-Fri, and really rather good. <A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/d/20000701.html" TARGET=_blank>Read it from the first strip!</A>

Staroffice 5.1 can show the transparency, but not too well. Hmmm. Then again, it hardly counts as a web browser.<P>------------------
Reinder Dijkhuis
<A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/" TARGET=_blank>Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan</A>, Humorous fantasy strip, updated Mon-Fri, and really rather good. <A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/d/20000701.html" TARGET=_blank>Read it from the first strip!</A>

Statically linked Opera 5 for Linux doesn't show the transparent png - but maybe it does use a lower-lever OS library for showing pngs that I must replace. (It's statically linked to QT which probably doesn't have anything to do with image rendering)

Nice to have OPera for Linux again though. And it's improved!<P>------------------
Reinder Dijkhuis
<A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/" TARGET=_blank>Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan</A>, Humorous fantasy strip, updated Mon-Fri, and really rather good. <A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/d/20000701.html" TARGET=_blank>Read it from the first strip!</A>

They both show the transparency well for me.<P>Mab

i can see them just fine. looks good.
i'm using windows me and ie. not my choice but hey at least i can see things.<P>i can try later on one of the school's macs to see if it can bet seen there too, if ya want.<P>now, i've found another comic to read. more archives to plunge through. <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif"> oh well. good thing it's spring break.<P>-kathryn <A HREF="http://bluecanary.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>http://bluecanary.keenspace.com</A>

Yours doesn't look too bad either, Kathryn!<P>I'm now at my parents' house where I've installed Mozilla 0.8 and Opera 5.02 for Windows on their spanking new computer. The PNG image looks fine on both.<P>------------------
Reinder Dijkhuis
<A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/" TARGET=_blank>Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan</A>, Humorous fantasy strip, updated Mon-Fri, and really rather good. <A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/d/20000701.html" TARGET=_blank>Read it from the first strip!</A>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dedos:
<B> Does PNG have the option to reduce the amount of colors like a GIF? (It didn't when I saw it in Photoshop 5)</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Internally, no. There are just two settings (8-bit and 24-bit) to choose from.<P>However, reducing the colors in your graphics program will lead to more adjacent pixels being the same color so the compression will work better, just as with GIFs.<P>
<B> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>
Also, on that same note, what program do you recommend for saving your work in a PNG format?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The GIMP. Actually, I would recommend that for gif (if you're in Europe or have a Unysis licence <IMG SRC="http://www.keenspace.com/forums/smile.gif">. Gif support is actually distributed as a separate plugin) and Jpeg as well. GIMP's endless tweaking of files is the main reason why I keep recommending it despite its usability problems. I think the download address is <A HREF="http://www.gimp.org/win32/" TARGET=_blank>http://www.gimp.org/win32/</A> but I'm not sure.<P>------------------
Reinder Dijkhuis
<A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/" TARGET=_blank>Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan</A>, Humorous fantasy strip, updated Mon-Fri, and really rather good. <A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/d/20000701.html" TARGET=_blank>Read it from the first strip!</A>

The top picture doesn't have a transparent windows. The bottom one does. (What's so special about transparent windows anyway? It sounds so obvious I can't believe everybody else isn't already doing it.)<P>I'm using netscape 4.76 on Solaris.

My graphics program shows a marked increase in file size vs.a JPG (3.5x), so I don't think I'll be switching any time soon...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dedos:
<B>My graphics program shows a marked increase in file size vs.a JPG (3.5x), so I don't think I'll be switching any time soon...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, PNG doesn't do what JPG does. It's intended to replace gifs, and my tests show that it does this really well (10% decrease compared to my already small gifs)<P><P>------------------
Reinder Dijkhuis
<A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/" TARGET=_blank>Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan</A>, Humorous fantasy strip, updated Mon-Fri, and really rather good. <A HREF="http://www.rocr.net/d/20000701.html" TARGET=_blank>Read it from the first strip!</A>

running winnt 4, sp5, and netscape 4.6 & ie 5.00, both turn out just peachy. we'll see how it looks with linux when the cable modem comes next week, check out the mac versions maybe later tonight.<P>------------------
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