Frames & Keencode [solved]

Ripnormality · Post by **Ripnormality** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:24 pm

(Keencode= ***blah blah blah*** because I couldn't remember what it's really called.)

Anyway, is it possible to create a site that's frame-based and still have working Keencode? I tried doing this...the results of uploading were disastrous.

Thanks!

Dr Neo Lao · Post by **Dr Neo Lao** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:23 pm

Yes it's possible, but it can be really tricky.

http://londonunderground.comicgenesis.com/ is the only CG comic that I know of that does this. For the most part, it works. The biggest 'problem' can be seen by doing this:

Go to the comic.
Click on 'previous comic'.
On the previous comic, click 'next' or 'today'.

See? You end with nesting frames. I would advise against using frames (div's are soooo much better) but if that's the way you want to go, you are free to do so. You can always change it or upgrade it later.

Ripnormality · Post by **Ripnormality** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:33 pm

Eew, I see--it's a good reason not to use them. But the problem I had is that the last time I tried to use frames, the Keentags (***blah_blah***) wouldn't work; they displayed as text instead of being replaced with the appropriate a hrefs.

Dr Neo Lao · Post by **Dr Neo Lao** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:40 pm

So long as you put the pages into workspace rather than public_html then the files *should* get processed by the server.

Frames are a fairly old system, and I've yet to see them do something that you can't do with div's. But I'm biased against them (frames).

I suppose that it depends on what it is that you are trying to do. If you elaborate on your idea, I could have a look at it and let you know your chances or if the idea needs tweaking...

Ripnormality · Post by **Ripnormality** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:35 am

*Should*...on taking a closer look at how the updating works, I noticed that the frames were getting moved into /public_html/workspace--which correcting the paths in index.html fixed, but unfortunately the frames themselves didn't have the transition from Keencode to actual html. Weird...is it partially a problem with having the mainFrame as its own page?

Note: I'm really not that good at coding. I use Dreamweaver and tweak stuff. :/

Dr Neo Lao · Post by **Dr Neo Lao** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:59 pm

Is http://ripnormality.comicgenesis.com your comic?

If that's the case, you're not actually using frames, you're using flash and embedding an object for the menu. In this case, you won't have any of the problems that londonunderground does.

If you put your pages into workspace/webpages then the server will process them and they'll land in the public_html side.

None of which holds true if you are talking about a different comic...

Ripnormality · Post by **Ripnormality** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:55 pm

Yes, that is it. I tried frames, but the entire thing stopped working so I reverted to the old version that uses tables. Thanks for the help! I've been putting the pages into /workspace/, not /workspace/webpages. Hopefully this will fix it. (Can't trust computers, though....)