Auto update scripts?
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Loserz Erik
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*sigh* I'm going to have to plan for the future of my comic, and with the way things go around here I may have to plan that future on somewhere other than Keenspace if I ever want it to appear consistently without crash, but if I don't know how to create a system for auto-updates I'll have far more work than is possible for me to keep up with. So if anyone could be so kind as to show me a place where I can learn how to make auto-update scripts and how to use them I would be ever-so-grateful. Thanky.
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SpareChange
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Eric,
You can download AutoKeenLite from the gear, and there are a couple other autoupdate scripts out there if you check around... (information is on the ecartoonist group on Yahoo)...
I've always advocated mirror sites, and finally moved to a paid host. It's actually MUCH cheaper than I thought it'd be. If you actually want info <a href="mailto:warren@webcomics.zzn.com">email me.</a>
Not planning on leaving the Keen, but I've never planned on it to be my only exposure.
You can download AutoKeenLite from the gear, and there are a couple other autoupdate scripts out there if you check around... (information is on the ecartoonist group on Yahoo)...
I've always advocated mirror sites, and finally moved to a paid host. It's actually MUCH cheaper than I thought it'd be. If you actually want info <a href="mailto:warren@webcomics.zzn.com">email me.</a>
Not planning on leaving the Keen, but I've never planned on it to be my only exposure.
<B>Certainly not Warren!</B>
<A HREF="http://sparechange.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Not Spare Change</A>
<A HREF="http://massproduction.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Not Mass Production (which is not on haitus!)</A>
<A HREF="http://sparechange.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Not Spare Change</A>
<A HREF="http://massproduction.keenspace.com" TARGET=_blank>Not Mass Production (which is not on haitus!)</A>
Dude, you would probably have to learn some PHP or Perl skills. You may as well become a rocket scientist. Good luck!
I've seen some people layout their archive with page 1 on top, page 2 directly underneath, page 3 under that, etc.
They might have something like 5 to 10 pages like that. The visitors can view the archives by selecting pages 1-10 or 11-20 and so on.
I've often thought that might be the easiest way to set up the site if you don't have the EXTREMELY CONVENIENT AND FREE AUTOKEEN SERVICE!
Later...
Paul
I've seen some people layout their archive with page 1 on top, page 2 directly underneath, page 3 under that, etc.
They might have something like 5 to 10 pages like that. The visitors can view the archives by selecting pages 1-10 or 11-20 and so on.
I've often thought that might be the easiest way to set up the site if you don't have the EXTREMELY CONVENIENT AND FREE AUTOKEEN SERVICE!
Later...
Paul
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Kisai
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I really have to emphasize this but
1. You get what you pay for. If you don't pay for the service, the service operators don't have to gaurantee you anything.
2. When you pay for a service, the operators are required to quickly respond to service problems or risk losing thier paying customers or being sued. (This is why cable ISP's usually give you a free month to keep you if the service goes down for a day.)
3. Part of the reason Keenspace crashes so much is because there are too many sites than there is hardware resources for, of which the hardware on the keenspace server is not as reliable (obviously) as the keenspot server.
(For those interested, the amount of RAM is 512MB, which each apache session has Perl enabled, technically only 120 or so sites can be served simultaneously or 600 if nobody is using cgi scripts at the time. There are 5551 sites however. If this was a paid service, there would have to be 6 of these servers to cover this many sites, or simply getting more RAM.)
4. The last batch of comics added, added 800 to the total number of comics hosted. From Janurary (3200 or so comics) to now (5551) there has been an almost 100% (next round of batch account additions will probably bring it over 6000)
I won't even scare you with how many people had to ask for their password in march when our e-mail was being blocked upstream.
In light of the recent level of "free services" turning into "pay-only" services, the amount of free-beer type services on the internet is getting scarce.
For example, free sites like geocities, angelfire, brinkster, tribod, nbci have started to put low bandwidth caps (like in the 500MB to 1GB area.) This is no good for a comic with any level of popularity. The most popular comics on keenspace would exceed this bandwidth within a few hours.
Next are the services that have further castrated their offerings, take yahoo for example. They have disabled pop3 and mail forwarding and now expect you to pay 25$ month for an already low quality service. Yahoo groups have ads that are bigger than the message.
And then there is the final aspect that people are oblivious to...
You retain the rights to your works on keenspace. Other "free" services own your works, even some low-quality pay services own your work. Read the Yahoo/Geocities TOS. By putting anything on their service, they get automatic rights to do anything they want with your material.
Honestly, if people know what a lot of the click-through agreements said, they would never click "I agree"
Keenspace will remain free as long as the people running it can afford to. Keenspace doesn't really make any money at all. KeenSpot does. Last year, they could actually afford to pay the artists from the ad revenue. Now the ad revenue doesn't even cover bandwidth usage. (120GB/day KeenSPOT, 60GB/day KeenSPACE)
KeenSPOT used 3.0TB of bandwidth in March This year, Keenspace used 1.47TB in March this year. The forums used an additional 90GB for that time period.
1. You get what you pay for. If you don't pay for the service, the service operators don't have to gaurantee you anything.
2. When you pay for a service, the operators are required to quickly respond to service problems or risk losing thier paying customers or being sued. (This is why cable ISP's usually give you a free month to keep you if the service goes down for a day.)
3. Part of the reason Keenspace crashes so much is because there are too many sites than there is hardware resources for, of which the hardware on the keenspace server is not as reliable (obviously) as the keenspot server.
(For those interested, the amount of RAM is 512MB, which each apache session has Perl enabled, technically only 120 or so sites can be served simultaneously or 600 if nobody is using cgi scripts at the time. There are 5551 sites however. If this was a paid service, there would have to be 6 of these servers to cover this many sites, or simply getting more RAM.)
4. The last batch of comics added, added 800 to the total number of comics hosted. From Janurary (3200 or so comics) to now (5551) there has been an almost 100% (next round of batch account additions will probably bring it over 6000)
I won't even scare you with how many people had to ask for their password in march when our e-mail was being blocked upstream.
In light of the recent level of "free services" turning into "pay-only" services, the amount of free-beer type services on the internet is getting scarce.
For example, free sites like geocities, angelfire, brinkster, tribod, nbci have started to put low bandwidth caps (like in the 500MB to 1GB area.) This is no good for a comic with any level of popularity. The most popular comics on keenspace would exceed this bandwidth within a few hours.
Next are the services that have further castrated their offerings, take yahoo for example. They have disabled pop3 and mail forwarding and now expect you to pay 25$ month for an already low quality service. Yahoo groups have ads that are bigger than the message.
And then there is the final aspect that people are oblivious to...
You retain the rights to your works on keenspace. Other "free" services own your works, even some low-quality pay services own your work. Read the Yahoo/Geocities TOS. By putting anything on their service, they get automatic rights to do anything they want with your material.
Honestly, if people know what a lot of the click-through agreements said, they would never click "I agree"
Keenspace will remain free as long as the people running it can afford to. Keenspace doesn't really make any money at all. KeenSpot does. Last year, they could actually afford to pay the artists from the ad revenue. Now the ad revenue doesn't even cover bandwidth usage. (120GB/day KeenSPOT, 60GB/day KeenSPACE)
KeenSPOT used 3.0TB of bandwidth in March This year, Keenspace used 1.47TB in March this year. The forums used an additional 90GB for that time period.
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Kisai
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I really have to emphasize this but
1. You get what you pay for. If you don't pay for the service, the service operators don't have to gaurantee you anything.
2. When you pay for a service, the operators are required to quickly respond to service problems or risk losing thier paying customers or being sued. (This is why cable ISP's usually give you a free month to keep you if the service goes down for a day.)
3. Part of the reason Keenspace crashes so much is because there are too many sites than there is hardware resources for, of which the hardware on the keenspace server is not as reliable (obviously) as the keenspot server.
(For those interested, the amount of RAM is 512MB, which each apache session has Perl enabled, technically only 120 or so sites can be served simultaneously or 600 if nobody is using cgi scripts at the time. There are 5551 sites however. If this was a paid service, there would have to be 6 of these servers to cover this many sites, or simply getting more RAM.)
4. The last batch of comics added, added 800 to the total number of comics hosted. From Janurary (3200 or so comics) to now (5551) there has been an almost 100% (next round of batch account additions will probably bring it over 6000)
I won't even scare you with how many people had to ask for their password in march when our e-mail was being blocked upstream.
In light of the recent level of "free services" turning into "pay-only" services, the amount of free-beer type services on the internet is getting scarce.
For example, free sites like geocities, angelfire, brinkster, tribod, nbci have started to put low bandwidth caps (like in the 500MB to 1GB area.) This is no good for a comic with any level of popularity. The most popular comics on keenspace would exceed this bandwidth within a few hours.
Next are the services that have further castrated their offerings, take yahoo for example. They have disabled pop3 and mail forwarding and now expect you to pay 25$ month for an already low quality service. Yahoo groups have ads that are bigger than the message.
And then there is the final aspect that people are oblivious to...
You retain the rights to your works on keenspace. Other "free" services own your works, even some low-quality pay services own your work. Read the Yahoo/Geocities TOS. By putting anything on their service, they get automatic rights to do anything they want with your material.
Honestly, if people know what a lot of the click-through agreements said, they would never click "I agree"
Keenspace will remain free as long as the people running it can afford to. Keenspace doesn't really make any money at all. KeenSpot does. Last year, they could actually afford to pay the artists from the ad revenue. Now the ad revenue doesn't even cover bandwidth usage. (120GB/day KeenSPOT, 60GB/day KeenSPACE)
KeenSPOT used 3.0TB of bandwidth in March This year, Keenspace used 1.47TB in March this year. The forums used an additional 90GB for that time period.
1. You get what you pay for. If you don't pay for the service, the service operators don't have to gaurantee you anything.
2. When you pay for a service, the operators are required to quickly respond to service problems or risk losing thier paying customers or being sued. (This is why cable ISP's usually give you a free month to keep you if the service goes down for a day.)
3. Part of the reason Keenspace crashes so much is because there are too many sites than there is hardware resources for, of which the hardware on the keenspace server is not as reliable (obviously) as the keenspot server.
(For those interested, the amount of RAM is 512MB, which each apache session has Perl enabled, technically only 120 or so sites can be served simultaneously or 600 if nobody is using cgi scripts at the time. There are 5551 sites however. If this was a paid service, there would have to be 6 of these servers to cover this many sites, or simply getting more RAM.)
4. The last batch of comics added, added 800 to the total number of comics hosted. From Janurary (3200 or so comics) to now (5551) there has been an almost 100% (next round of batch account additions will probably bring it over 6000)
I won't even scare you with how many people had to ask for their password in march when our e-mail was being blocked upstream.
In light of the recent level of "free services" turning into "pay-only" services, the amount of free-beer type services on the internet is getting scarce.
For example, free sites like geocities, angelfire, brinkster, tribod, nbci have started to put low bandwidth caps (like in the 500MB to 1GB area.) This is no good for a comic with any level of popularity. The most popular comics on keenspace would exceed this bandwidth within a few hours.
Next are the services that have further castrated their offerings, take yahoo for example. They have disabled pop3 and mail forwarding and now expect you to pay 25$ month for an already low quality service. Yahoo groups have ads that are bigger than the message.
And then there is the final aspect that people are oblivious to...
You retain the rights to your works on keenspace. Other "free" services own your works, even some low-quality pay services own your work. Read the Yahoo/Geocities TOS. By putting anything on their service, they get automatic rights to do anything they want with your material.
Honestly, if people know what a lot of the click-through agreements said, they would never click "I agree"
Keenspace will remain free as long as the people running it can afford to. Keenspace doesn't really make any money at all. KeenSpot does. Last year, they could actually afford to pay the artists from the ad revenue. Now the ad revenue doesn't even cover bandwidth usage. (120GB/day KeenSPOT, 60GB/day KeenSPACE)
KeenSPOT used 3.0TB of bandwidth in March This year, Keenspace used 1.47TB in March this year. The forums used an additional 90GB for that time period.