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- Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:47 am
- Forum: NPC
- Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
- Replies: 219
- Views: 16862
Argue what you want but do with respect and a lack of profanity, please. I concur, and would hope to apologize if my tone was offensive. But, on the same idea, let me defend myself: This is not a child's topic. This is not something fascile or sophomoric. We are adults here, or, at least, should be...
- Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:04 am
- Forum: Under the Lemon Tree
- Topic: Persecuting the Christians... again?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4576
Re: Persecuting the Christians... again?
There are a few religions which would allow me to murder anybody I disliked, too. Why don't we religiously tolerate them as well? Why don't we let a Papuan slash open your chest and rip out your brain to eat it and gain power from your spirit aura? Simple: You do not have the freedom to do somethin...
- Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:36 am
- Forum: NPC
- Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
- Replies: 219
- Views: 16862
No. A conspiracy implies some central organization. It implies shadowy meetings and secret handshakes. That's not what I am suggesting at all. The mere sum total of groups and individuals who have an anti-Christian agenda for a variety of reasons is not anything like a conspiracy -- a better word w...
- Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:17 am
- Forum: Under the Lemon Tree
- Topic: Hard Onions
- Replies: 143
- Views: 32348
Here's a small hint: not being allowed to color in a nativity scene at school doesn't qualify as persecution. Being beaten up almost every day at school for being homosexual qualifies as persecution. Having laws passed banning you from activities such as getting married qualifies as persecution. Be...
- Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:00 am
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: Church burnings
- Replies: 112
- Views: 34517
Let's put it this way: What if 300 abortion clinics a year were burned? Or even 30? Or 30 NAACP buildings? Max, you couldn't be more irrelevant if you were standing next to a giant irrelevant-statement-making machine. Church does not equal abortion clinic. Nor does it equal NAACP. A 'church' can be...
- Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:28 am
- Forum: NPC
- Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
- Replies: 219
- Views: 16862
addendum to previous post: you'll probably bring up the fact that it was government-funded. Probably a grant. Grant givers rarely know what the artist will do with the money, and they don't generally specify things like "don't trash Christians with it". The artist, while I think he was a troll, was...
- Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:08 am
- Forum: NPC
- Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
- Replies: 219
- Views: 16862
Subject? I don't need no stinkin' subject.
Okay, everyone seems to be focusing on one particular piece of evidence for 'Christian persucution.' Spefically: Piss Christ. So let's go over this to make sure everyone understands what exactly this was. 1989. Winston-Salem, North Carolina. The Southeastern Center for Contemporary Art holds an annu...
- Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:31 am
- Forum: NPC
- Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
- Replies: 219
- Views: 16862
I do not feel persecuted, or at least not as much as others. I am more "persecuted" for my Asperger's than for my Catholicism (and I have been told that I would go to hell unless I left the Church...I wonder if Ralph considers me a "Christian"). But I feel angry over the things that Ralph listed, j...
- Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:19 am
- Forum: NPC
- Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
- Replies: 219
- Views: 16862
The KKK has never been publically accepted in the US beyond a brief period where it had some influence as a secret society throughout the south. Uh, LoneWolf? There is significant evidence that several prominent politiciancs, including presidents, were Klan members. It has been publically accepted ...
- Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:56 pm
- Forum: Under the Lemon Tree
- Topic: Wet in 4 Minutes
- Replies: 64
- Views: 9589
So, is this finally gonna be what it takes for RHJ to distance himself from a conservative movement? Or conservatives like Jack Thompson or Bill O'Reilly?
- Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:52 am
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
- Replies: 91
- Views: 32531
Yes, there was an analogy. There was an evaluation of the differences and similarities of two hypothetical situations. Analogy. And it remains unapt for the reasons you did not address, here I restate: It compares the born to the unborn, and the bearer cannot provide legal dissaproval. If that's no...
- Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:49 pm
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
- Replies: 91
- Views: 32531
This analogy in not apt because it compares a fetus (albeit human) to a newborn (ableit animal.) There are laws concerning abandonment and infanticide in humans, and they are (as they should be) harsher than laws regarding the equivalent in animals. Besides which, there is little or no way for a do...
- Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:57 am
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
- Replies: 91
- Views: 32531
1) Say a man owns a female dog. He does not have her spayed. He does not keep her from having contact with other dogs, particularly male dogs. Every time the dog has a litter of pups, he gathers them up and drowns them in the bathtub. Such a man could be charge with animal cruelty and thrown in jai...
- Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:21 pm
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
- Replies: 91
- Views: 32531
Again, it's difficult to explain the spiritual world to those who already assume that it does not exist. And its impossible to prove it doesn't exist to those who assume it does. But what you have done is a typical antiskeptical backhanded comment about someone's disbelief in something tying it in ...
- Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:20 am
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
- Replies: 91
- Views: 32531
- Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:40 am
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
- Replies: 91
- Views: 32531
Non-human living beings, like animals, have a body and, I'd dare say, a mind. They, however, can't tell right from wrong. If a bear is hungry enough and there's no other food available except a human, it would try to eat the human, whether it's Mother Teresa or an axe murderer. Hence, they don't ha...
- Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:11 pm
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: PostModernism.. Liberalism.. wtf?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 4245
Points taken all, and humbly, too, but I still think my original message remains valid. I also now realize I didn't phrase it quite properly. Let me try again, and hope I get it right this time. RHJ's comment rested on the supposition that the current administration was booted out because it had ali...
- Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:14 am
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: PostModernism.. Liberalism.. wtf?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 4245
The real problem is not that they "ran unchecked," but that they promptly <I>ran in the wrong direction.</i> When it came to backing up their own electoral platform--- smaller government, less government spending, lower taxes, stronger military, better border security--- they either lost their nerv...
- Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:38 am
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: Casino's and God
- Replies: 76
- Views: 9525
Hi again. I know I said I'd stay out of this, but I just want to bring in two teeny points and be back out. One, Wander described in his last response to me that my belief was a choice. I don't think its that. I don't think any beliefs are 'choices.' but, then, that's a belief about a belief, and if...
- Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:41 am
- Forum: Nip and Tuck
- Topic: Casino's and God
- Replies: 76
- Views: 9525
Actually, there seems to be a couple secondary debates taking place here. The 'B' and 'C' Plots to this sitcom, if I may. I'd like to adress them quickly, then say my goodbyes. I had one of the first points, I may as well give the last word to my worthy opposition. The one I address first seems to c...