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by Sapphire
Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:47 am
Forum: NPC
Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
Replies: 219
Views: 16862

Argue what you want but do with respect and a lack of profanity, please. I concur, and would hope to apologize if my tone was offensive. But, on the same idea, let me defend myself: This is not a child's topic. This is not something fascile or sophomoric. We are adults here, or, at least, should be...
by Sapphire
Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:04 am
Forum: Under the Lemon Tree
Topic: Persecuting the Christians... again?
Replies: 11
Views: 4576

Re: Persecuting the Christians... again?

There are a few religions which would allow me to murder anybody I disliked, too. Why don't we religiously tolerate them as well? Why don't we let a Papuan slash open your chest and rip out your brain to eat it and gain power from your spirit aura? Simple: You do not have the freedom to do somethin...
by Sapphire
Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:36 am
Forum: NPC
Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
Replies: 219
Views: 16862

No. A conspiracy implies some central organization. It implies shadowy meetings and secret handshakes. That's not what I am suggesting at all. The mere sum total of groups and individuals who have an anti-Christian agenda for a variety of reasons is not anything like a conspiracy -- a better word w...
by Sapphire
Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:17 am
Forum: Under the Lemon Tree
Topic: Hard Onions
Replies: 143
Views: 32348

Here's a small hint: not being allowed to color in a nativity scene at school doesn't qualify as persecution. Being beaten up almost every day at school for being homosexual qualifies as persecution. Having laws passed banning you from activities such as getting married qualifies as persecution. Be...
by Sapphire
Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:00 am
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: Church burnings
Replies: 112
Views: 34517

Let's put it this way: What if 300 abortion clinics a year were burned? Or even 30? Or 30 NAACP buildings? Max, you couldn't be more irrelevant if you were standing next to a giant irrelevant-statement-making machine. Church does not equal abortion clinic. Nor does it equal NAACP. A 'church' can be...
by Sapphire
Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:28 am
Forum: NPC
Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
Replies: 219
Views: 16862

addendum to previous post: you'll probably bring up the fact that it was government-funded. Probably a grant. Grant givers rarely know what the artist will do with the money, and they don't generally specify things like "don't trash Christians with it". The artist, while I think he was a troll, was...
by Sapphire
Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:08 am
Forum: NPC
Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
Replies: 219
Views: 16862

Subject? I don't need no stinkin' subject.

Okay, everyone seems to be focusing on one particular piece of evidence for 'Christian persucution.' Spefically: Piss Christ. So let's go over this to make sure everyone understands what exactly this was. 1989. Winston-Salem, North Carolina. The Southeastern Center for Contemporary Art holds an annu...
by Sapphire
Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:31 am
Forum: NPC
Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
Replies: 219
Views: 16862

I do not feel persecuted, or at least not as much as others. I am more "persecuted" for my Asperger's than for my Catholicism (and I have been told that I would go to hell unless I left the Church...I wonder if Ralph considers me a "Christian"). But I feel angry over the things that Ralph listed, j...
by Sapphire
Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:19 am
Forum: NPC
Topic: Persecution (Dec 2)
Replies: 219
Views: 16862

The KKK has never been publically accepted in the US beyond a brief period where it had some influence as a secret society throughout the south. Uh, LoneWolf? There is significant evidence that several prominent politiciancs, including presidents, were Klan members. It has been publically accepted ...
by Sapphire
Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:56 pm
Forum: Under the Lemon Tree
Topic: Wet in 4 Minutes
Replies: 64
Views: 9589

So, is this finally gonna be what it takes for RHJ to distance himself from a conservative movement? Or conservatives like Jack Thompson or Bill O'Reilly?
by Sapphire
Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:52 am
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
Replies: 91
Views: 32531

Yes, there was an analogy. There was an evaluation of the differences and similarities of two hypothetical situations. Analogy. And it remains unapt for the reasons you did not address, here I restate: It compares the born to the unborn, and the bearer cannot provide legal dissaproval. If that's no...
by Sapphire
Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:49 pm
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
Replies: 91
Views: 32531

This analogy in not apt because it compares a fetus (albeit human) to a newborn (ableit animal.) There are laws concerning abandonment and infanticide in humans, and they are (as they should be) harsher than laws regarding the equivalent in animals. Besides which, there is little or no way for a do...
by Sapphire
Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:57 am
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
Replies: 91
Views: 32531

1) Say a man owns a female dog. He does not have her spayed. He does not keep her from having contact with other dogs, particularly male dogs. Every time the dog has a litter of pups, he gathers them up and drowns them in the bathtub. Such a man could be charge with animal cruelty and thrown in jai...
by Sapphire
Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:21 pm
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
Replies: 91
Views: 32531

Again, it's difficult to explain the spiritual world to those who already assume that it does not exist. And its impossible to prove it doesn't exist to those who assume it does. But what you have done is a typical antiskeptical backhanded comment about someone's disbelief in something tying it in ...
by Sapphire
Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:20 am
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
Replies: 91
Views: 32531

Deckard Canine wrote:Wow -- at this time, the votes have nearly a three-way tie. Guess this is a well-balanced board.
Except that two are in favor and one is opposed. Other than that, sure.
by Sapphire
Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:40 am
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: Abortion - what's really being debated?
Replies: 91
Views: 32531

Non-human living beings, like animals, have a body and, I'd dare say, a mind. They, however, can't tell right from wrong. If a bear is hungry enough and there's no other food available except a human, it would try to eat the human, whether it's Mother Teresa or an axe murderer. Hence, they don't ha...
by Sapphire
Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:11 pm
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: PostModernism.. Liberalism.. wtf?
Replies: 33
Views: 4245

Points taken all, and humbly, too, but I still think my original message remains valid. I also now realize I didn't phrase it quite properly. Let me try again, and hope I get it right this time. RHJ's comment rested on the supposition that the current administration was booted out because it had ali...
by Sapphire
Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:14 am
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: PostModernism.. Liberalism.. wtf?
Replies: 33
Views: 4245

The real problem is not that they "ran unchecked," but that they promptly <I>ran in the wrong direction.</i> When it came to backing up their own electoral platform--- smaller government, less government spending, lower taxes, stronger military, better border security--- they either lost their nerv...
by Sapphire
Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:38 am
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: Casino's and God
Replies: 76
Views: 9525

Hi again. I know I said I'd stay out of this, but I just want to bring in two teeny points and be back out. One, Wander described in his last response to me that my belief was a choice. I don't think its that. I don't think any beliefs are 'choices.' but, then, that's a belief about a belief, and if...
by Sapphire
Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:41 am
Forum: Nip and Tuck
Topic: Casino's and God
Replies: 76
Views: 9525

Actually, there seems to be a couple secondary debates taking place here. The 'B' and 'C' Plots to this sitcom, if I may. I'd like to adress them quickly, then say my goodbyes. I had one of the first points, I may as well give the last word to my worthy opposition. The one I address first seems to c...