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by Paul Escobar
Wed May 20, 2009 3:01 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Let's Talk Art!
Replies: 69
Views: 18969

Re: Let's Talk Art!

I don't see how art being an object up for sale would be a problem. Artists need money for food and rent like everyone else. And when an artist gets famous, his works will fetch a higher price. This is not in any way new, nor any different from any other creative field, and it does no harm. The pro...
by Paul Escobar
Mon May 18, 2009 8:05 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

On the downside it takes a lot of experience and patience to properly mix a record and these days, the talented engineers don't really even try to do the artistry that really made audio production an art form in the days of vinyl. Why would this be? They regard it as pointless due to the (apparentl...
by Paul Escobar
Mon May 18, 2009 8:00 am
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Let's Talk Art!
Replies: 69
Views: 18969

Re: Let's Talk Art!

Of course if I talk about dead of gallery art I mainly think about the financial construction behind it, putting emphasis on object, treating art piece as investment, celebrity status selling art, painters who are primarily manipulators of public and all that stuff. I think that the climate encoura...
by Paul Escobar
Sun May 17, 2009 1:17 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Let's Talk Art!
Replies: 69
Views: 18969

Re: Let's Talk Art!

I stand by what I said over in the Get Ya Freak On thread: The standards by which we label and judge works of art are secondary to art and not definitive of it. I'm with Buster, I don't like seeing " this is not art" applied just because someone doesn't like the piece in question. The only workable ...
by Paul Escobar
Fri May 15, 2009 11:10 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

The main issue about Records sounding better than CDs is when CDs were new, engineers sucked royally at mastering CDs. These days records really aren't that much different unless records are given the love the deserve. And by love I mean Grooved like they should be to promote the versitility of gap...
by Paul Escobar
Wed May 13, 2009 2:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

Love my LPs - a little over half of my music collection is on vinyl. Mostly because I bought a fuckton of vinyl records back when CDs still cost much more than LPs. Got a lot of classic albums cheap on sale. It took me a long time to start buying CDs simply because bothering with two formats seemed ...
by Paul Escobar
Tue May 12, 2009 7:02 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

Referring to established art and artists means we have common ground, which is practical. Talking about contemporary art, as in here and now, we'd end up citing names and pieces the other participants may not have a chance to see. Checking out art galleries for the newest stuff is something I enjoy ...
by Paul Escobar
Mon May 11, 2009 6:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

Ah, cool. Now I feel like I've missed out on something great, haha. But yeah, it isn't the same for everyone. I get similar experiences from certain other artists, so I guess it evens out, we all find something that touches us. Would be interesting to know why art speaks to people so differently. Ho...
by Paul Escobar
Mon May 11, 2009 5:24 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

And that reminds me... Jackson Pollock. I know he intended to convey something in his action paintings, they're not just decorative compositions of colour, but I'm at a loss. A lot of people apparently "get it", and I'm wondering, how much does the viewer read into non-figurative art? I like Rothko...
by Paul Escobar
Mon May 11, 2009 12:36 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply it's necessarily either or. I was just asking for clarification of "a message", since there's clearly different understandings in this thread of what that entails. I know you didn't mean to imply that. Still, some people might, or they might respond from a constrained per...
by Paul Escobar
Mon May 11, 2009 8:44 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

I've always found it a little bit frustrating that people find art to be so subjective that they are totally unwilling to define it in any concrete way, even though art has moved according to pretty concrete sets of boundaries, which have expanded as human understanding has expanded. Art does, inde...
by Paul Escobar
Mon May 11, 2009 8:03 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

Man I don't know if I should tell you that you're taking things that I say too literal, or that you're not taking them literal at all. I mean on one hand I'm talking casually, in general, but you seem to read me as if I just wrote seminal philosophy book and you're writing another book in retributi...
by Paul Escobar
Sun May 10, 2009 3:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

I feel like we're going to start spinning in circles with the inherent-meanings and jerk-artists debate. For me, at least, this is probably in part because I dabble in the arts and can't bear the suggestion that I have absolutely no control over the meanings of the things I produce, or that some as...
by Paul Escobar
Fri May 08, 2009 8:47 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

For the record, I do believe that one's art is projection of his personality, and enjoying someone's art is in a lot of ways like hanging with the person himself. Most art is, for lack of a better word, fiction. Even the most honest, straight-from-the-heart art represents only one small, carefully ...
by Paul Escobar
Fri May 01, 2009 6:09 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

Heh, I kinda thought Laibach was mandatory for anyone with more than a passing interest in modern music. It's not music for everyone by far, but everyone should at least give them a listen. What do you think of them? I didn't think they were well known, their importance is in which musicians namedr...
by Paul Escobar
Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

Paul: it's always funny to hear someone listening to Laibach. They're prolly the only really important musical export from ex-Yu. Heh, I kinda thought Laibach was mandatory for anyone with more than a passing interest in modern music. It's not music for everyone by far, but everyone should at least...
by Paul Escobar
Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:25 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

and I note that no one is at all interested in how the new Depeche Mode record sounds... fine I won't tell you! I'm interested, please do tell. In other semi-news, Röyksopp's latest album "Junior" is rather boring IMO. Most reviewers love it, though. The only tracks on it I really like are the two ...
by Paul Escobar
Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:16 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Livejournal-style Whining Thread 2.0
Replies: 2266
Views: 42575

Re: Livejournal-style Whining Thread 2.0

I find it difficult to navigate all the increasingly esoteric terms for sub-genres of electronic music. When I'm in the mood for some nice, brutal industrial or EBM, it tends to be albums from the 1980s I drag out. Laibach, Pankow, Front 242 etc. Can you recommend anything new in the industrial/noi...
by Paul Escobar
Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:00 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Livejournal-style Whining Thread 2.0
Replies: 2266
Views: 42575

Re: Livejournal-style Whining Thread 2.0

Well after the early 90's industrial boom people forgot about most of the bands that were doing that sort of thing. Granted these days that industrial-rock really isn't so great. Its a shame. But then again I feel that EBM and its children aggro and power-noise make a lot of same sort of things tha...
by Paul Escobar
Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:54 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Get Ya Freak On.
Replies: 1317
Views: 70035

Re: Get Ya Freak On.

I like it when guys do 80's Madonna covers. Its this sick fascination of mine. The Lords of the New Church covering "Like a Virgin" was certainly funny. Yeah I heard that one at a club like forever ago. its pretty funny. Speaking of Madonna covers, The Tamperer's "If You Buy This Record Your Life W...